Iron Fic 2-4

Watashiwa

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#1
Iron Fic 2-4

Lost Things

We lose little things everyday: our keys, our appetites, our memories. Less often, we lose big things: our sense of purpose, friends, our lives.

For this challenge, write about someone losing something. What do they lose? Why? Do they miss it? Will they, can they get it back? What happens next?


Timelimit: Within four hours. The challenge is made, so WRITE!
 

Kayeich

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#6
This would have been a nice one to write for. Have an idea and everything. But I know 20 minutes isn't going to give me the time to do it. =(

So guess I'm just judging, like I promised before.
 

Cornuthaum

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#9
Indefatigable - Code Geass

Lelouch hurts, gets hurt and commits more wrongs in a day than he could fix in a lifetime, but he will never stop. This is why.
 

daniel_gudman

KING (In Land of Blind)
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#16
Is the timelimit within 4 hours of the challenge being posted, or within 4 hours of finding out that it exists?

Because, I saw the link and thought "oh, maybe I'll participate this time", and I scrolled to the bottom and saw that it was already too late.
 

Rooster455

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#17
daniel_gudman said:
Is the timelimit within 4 hours of the challenge being posted, or within 4 hours of finding out that it exists?

Because, I saw the link and thought "oh, maybe I'll participate this time", and I scrolled to the bottom and saw that it was already too late.
Within four hours of posting. Wata always posts 1100 Pacific time.
 

Kayeich

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#19
Thanks go to Watashiwa, our gracious host, for inviting me this week as a guest judge.

I find myself in the unique position of being familiar with the ingredients used by three of our chefs, a seeming rarity with some past judgings. I hope to use this familiarity to judge them fairly, while also seeking the perspective of a consumer who is not familiar with the underlying tastes of the ingredients used, so as to be fair to the two chefs who used original ingredients in their attempts to best present this week's theme.

I would note that I am something of a harsh grader, despite my own faults as a chef (and I in fact make some of the very mistakes I might penalize points on!), so take the sight of your score in stride. I hope to see more tasty dishes from you all in the future, as these five dishes were all most certainly enjoyable. Even the damn potato chips.

Stupid potato chips.... *mutters mutters*

***

Chance, by Takerial [Naruto]

Ah, a chef who keeps up with the newest innovations regarding his chosen base ingredients. Truly, habaneros and tomatoes are most fitting to spice up this dish (especially in the small dose used. Not a fan of spicy!)! This dish had some faults, I'm afraid to say, but by and far, it was a dish that made my stomach feel warm and pleasant, with a lingering melancholy taste at the end.

I find it ironic that to someone unfamiliar with your base ingredients, might in fact find not a contrasting taste, but a more complementary one, finding the ending to be hopeful for the future.

For all that, however, the dish's complexity brings to the forefront its own faults. Like a sensitive cake collapsing, your attempts to cook in a certain way simply don't give this dish a proper structure. While you may have intended for the structure of the dish to come out as such, I fear I must agree with others that have already sampled this dish, and that a bit of structure would not in the least have diminished the taste of this dish, rather it would most certainly have enhanced it. My first serving of this dish was quite disagreeable with my tongue because of this, though later servings touched more upon the tastes I feel you wished to convey.

Readability: 13
Theme: 18
Details: 17
Plot: 18
Opinion: 17
Total: 83

Final Judging: For a... 'volcano cake', it was still a tasty dessert. I still wish it had looked as palatable as it tasted once I really sunk my teeth into it.

***

Faded, by Twin Blade [Original]

Okay, okay...Twin Blade...What the devil did I just put in my mouth?

...Don't panic!

It's not that I disliked it, I actually think I did, I certainly took quite a few repeat servings as I tried to decipher the sensations in my tongue, although I'm not certain I've gotten them all. It made me think of a photocopier, with each copy progressively getting more and more faded. I'm not altogether certain if this is the feeling this dish was supposed to convey, though a dash of mystery to spice a dish is always welcome in this judge's kitchen!

I certainly liked the tone used when I could sense it, but I can't really say much more about this odd piece.

Readability: 10
Theme: 18
Details: 18
Plot: 16
Opinion: 18
Total: 80

Final judging: There was something about this I just really liked more than the others, even if I didn't quite get it entirely, though. I'd like to judge this higher, I really would, but I'm -still- not certain what was going on, and more servings will just make me feel bloated. It hurts to give the piece that I liked the most the lowest overall score. Okay, -now- you can panic.

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Indefatigable, by Cornuthaum [Code Geass]

I'll be frank and start off by admitting that like spicy things, I am not a fan of the "20 Truths"-type dishes. It is essentially not a single dish, but various interconnected dishes, all small in size by the nature of the format, and thus limited in the amount of spicing up one can do without it becoming a bloated thing, a wall of text, that simply won't fit in one bite, as was meant. But because of this...because (and I repeat that this is my opinion) there is just a lack of real plot, merely a theme, it's simply just not filling. It is the potato chips of meals, a snack meant to be consumed quickly, and only temporarily fill the stomach, never more than that.

A pity, because I truly do enjoy the way you weave ingredients together. You are a -master- of the kitchen, with a talent to make each of these pint-size morsels almost desirable on their own, leaving one peckish for just a bit more spicing and substance. In this work, you have given us a sample of nineteen different flavors of the theme, and truly did wonders with a dish that I myself do not fancy, even if it does come a little strong in taste (a necessity, I admit, with this dish, one that must push theme at the cost of a strong plot).

I would however be remiss if I did not point out just how badly this dish relies on its consumer being familiar with the base ingredient and being able to savor it to full effect. At its core, this dish presents how various flavors of the theme shaped the man known as Lelouch. One who is not familiar with the base ingredient would be unable to truly appreciate the final bitter taste at the core of this dish.

Readability: 19
Theme: 20
Details: 14
Plot: 15
Opinion: 18
Total: 86

Final Judging: For all that this type of dish may disagree with me, you've certainly done a grand job of making it palatable. Somehow, the potato chip still gets the highest overall score, and my favorite piece gets the lowest. I suppose I'd hate you for that, Cornuthaum, if you didn't make your dishes so damn tasty.

***

Never Surrender, by Professional Cynic [Star Wars]

The start is very abrupt, with very choppy sentences that initially make this dish appear disagreeable. Thankfully a bit of punch adds some quick flavoring to the dish, giving it a chance to try and shine. It never really does so, and I admittedly don't like military exercises in the written form, I just find it a bit boring, but while this piece doesn't really shine anywhere, it doesn't fall for any of the traps the other pieces fall into. I certainly won't call it my favorite, I'll actually admit I liked it the least of the five, hence why it scored a bit lower in the Opinion category, but it was a solidly written piece.

Readability: 17
Theme: 17
Details: 17
Plot: 17
Opinion: 15
Total: 83

Final Judging: It's not the best in any particular category to the other dishes presented to this judge, but it's pretty good in all of them.

***

Down is up, by Left Shoe [Original]

As with Twin Blade's dish, there was something really attractive about this dish, and it certainly was easier to get into. It's just so damning that with the contest time limit, you were forced to produce an incomplete dish, and it really does come across that way. Perhaps because of this, it comes the weakest in terms of theme, even though you nicely closed the plot in the time available so it does give something of an impression of being complete. It's only in judging it for that theme that its incompleteness becomes obvious (although you were certainly upfront about it as well).

I really enjoyed the details, it was very easy to immerse myself in this dish and savor what was available. The theme doesn't quite come across though. What was the big loss? The drugs? The dad? The chance to reconciliate with him? All of it, maybe?

Readability: 19
Theme: 12
Details: 19
Plot: 16
Opinion: 18
Total: 85

Final Judging: An incomplete dish, that I regret did not get the full time it needed to really shine. I could easily have seen this scoring much higher, and making it into the 90s range for my scoring criteria. And you caused the potato chip to get the highest score. So...

*K.H. stuffs a lot of oatmeal cookies down Left Shoe's throat.

***

Total Ranks:
83: Takerial
80: Twin Blade
86: Cornuthaum
83: Professional Cynic
85: Left Shoe

I'm not entirely sure how my scores resulted in my favorite fic getting lowest score, and the one with the format I am hard pressed to call a fanfic getting the highest score, but there you go.

BAM! Day 1 judging, bitches!
 

Left Shoe

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#20
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twin blade

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#21
Wait, it was readability that screwed me over?

...Maybe I should have gone with a more stand alone...
 
#22
Cool, a solid 83. Thanks.

I write what I enjoy and am good at: that being military action. It's not going to bother me unduly that you don't have a personal taste for it because I know that different people have different tastes. I'm just looking forward to the next round of judging.
 

Kayeich

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#23
twin blade said:
Wait, it was readability that screwed me over?

...Maybe I should have gone with a more stand alone...
Well, in terms of spelling/grammar, it was certainly solid in readability (but just about all the pieces were, outside of possible minor things). It was just the understanding part that made me relate with Left Shoe's scoring of my eva fic two contests back, which tried to go for a similar sense of ambiguity.

I understand the use of italics to try and present who is who, but it's just so ambiguous with the pronouns, that the only really clear thing is that there's that photocopy machine effect going on with these rituals, and the guy and girl are locked in an apparent vicious cycle of despair and death (which is part of what I really liked about it).

I still just wish that I had a clearer idea of what exactly is going wrong, because I'm not entirely sure what's going on with the love aspect. Are the clones coming out in love with them already but they don't recognize them as a true clone? Or are they 'blank slates' that are getting filled in, made to fall in love with their creator, only to make their creator despair/die with the name thing when they prove themselves not to quite be a blank slate, but now they're in love/needy, so they start the cycle? There's some cool things about both perspectives, though some issues as well, and I'm not entirely sure there aren't other options as to what's going on.

Sure, it's not entirely -central- to the theme, but it's interesting, and I really wish I understood just what was going on.

To clarify how I was treating categories:
-Readability: Spelling/Grammar were part of it, but also, did I understand what was going on? If it used an established setting, I also tried to consider "Can I follow this if I don't know anything about the setting?"

Takerial and you suffered in here, since your fics were the only ones I felt I really had to reread to start judging.

-Theme: Obviously, do I see the theme present in the story? In this case, is there loss of some form? And if so, does something happen as a result of that loss?

Obviously, Left Shoe is the one who suffered here, because while I can see loss, I don't see followups.

-Details: There's kind of some crossover with my treatment of the readability category, as obviously, if there's not enough details, it's hard to read something while understanding what's going on. Mostly though, I focused on vividness for this. Do the sentences paint a picture for me? Do I understand the mood of the characters? This would also be the category where points where added for using a pre-established setting well, or taken because the pre-established setting really requires knowledge from the reader to really be enjoyed.

I felt that most of the characters were pretty vivid, though Lelouch came a bit dry in Mr Potato Chip's story. Sure, I understand it's introspective and all...but meh. And like I mentioned, his story is also the one that most relies on a reader being aware of the setting.

-Plot: Is something actually happening? Really, there isn't much more to say about this category. It's obviously connected to the theme, which should serve as a catalyst for something happening, but besides just the theme being present and being used, I'm looking for something that doesn't make me go "...So what was the point of writing this?"

-Opinion: This is just general like/dislike, a combined opinion, do I think you got your desired point across, did I find it entertaining, etc.

Cynic suffered a little bit here, just because his piece didn't really grab me, since it didn't cater to my interests. That's not his fault, but it still hurt him a bit here.

Edit: I'd also like to add, yeah, your fic really is the one I liked the most, as it hit most of my "I like" buttons, but I wanted to judge by the points I generally see judging done, and you fell to the same traps I had with that NGE story.

If I were judging entirely from a Like->Dislike perspective, I'd probably have ranked as: Twin Blade > Left Shoe > Takerial > Potato Chip ~ Cynic (Cynic's story is just -barely- less interesting to me than the 20 truth format, and only because he hit one of my dislike buttons, same as Cornuthaum).
 

Watashiwa

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#24
Master of Ceremonies Watashiwa thanks Kayeich for being a wonderful guest judge, and would like everyone to give him a warm round of applause for his timely and thorough posting.



This weeks other judges will be Halibel Lecter and Rooster455. As I'm in the middle of nowhere attending a parental unit's college reunion and will almost certainly lose internet access tomorrow until Thursday, I'll have to ask that the title be given out without my presence.

<_<

Anyway, I hope to see you all again next week!
 

twin blade

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#25
Well, the idea is that when a person is revived, they basically get a core part of the original person's soul - the ritual, and the experiences after, build onto the core, creating effectively a new personality.

The original boy was in love with the original girl - and got, basically, a new person to deal with.

He's of course, somewhat bitter. He loved the orignal girl, and not the person in front of him. But, he takes care of the new girl, tried to act kind and affectionate.

And, because this is done early in the new personality's birth, she more or less imprints on him.

Then he dies.

And she tries to revive him, the same way he tried to revive her.

After the ritual, she acts nice to the new personality, hoping that the personality overwrite didn't happen.

But it did. And his new personality imprinted on her.

But she had imprinted on his original self. Unhappiness ensues~

Theoretically, if she died, he would still attempt to revive her, and then another round would go on.

On the other hand, she might attempt to kill him, to go for another round of revival roulette.

EDIT: I didn't want to use names with the story, because she's trying to see the boy who's with her, and the boy she's in love with, as the same person. In refer to them by different names would ruin that effect. Plus, since this is her thought process, I figured that not reffering to anyone by name would be allowable, because she would know who was who.
 
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