Iron's Forge

Old Iron

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#26
So... Is anyone even enjoying this enough to warrant a second chapter?

Or should I just cut my losses and move on?
 

vic-vic

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#27
I think it's pretty interesting story. IMHO it would be a waste to just abandon it
 

MastaofBitches

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#28
Dude, write what you enjoy writing, whether it's this, or something else.
 

Nanya

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#29
While I don't know much about Dark Souls, if it's a well-written fic, I can get into it.
 

Old Iron

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#30
Very well. I shall set back to work.

I apologize, Work has been... stressful lately. Combined with other IRL issues, I suppose I was feeling rather depressed about things and I ended up taking it out on my writing.
 

MastaofBitches

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#31
Old Iron said:
Very well. I shall set back to work.

I apologize, Work has been... stressful lately. Combined with other IRL issues, I suppose I was feeling rather depressed about things and I ended up taking it out on my writing.
If it's just depressing stuff you want to write, why not continue I Stand Alone? Plenty of depressing stuff there, but also the beginnings of an excellent character exploration fic.
 

Old Iron

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#32
MastaofBitches said:
Old Iron said:
Very well. I shall set back to work.

I apologize, Work has been... stressful lately. Combined with other IRL issues, I suppose I was feeling rather depressed about things and I ended up taking it out on my writing.
If it's just depressing stuff you want to write, why not continue I Stand Alone? Plenty of depressing stuff there, but also the beginnings of an excellent character exploration fic.
That's an option I hadn't considered before. I suppose if I go that route to vent, then I'll end up giving it a fresh coat of paint.

The attempted sequel was... rather disastrous. But that was also a few years ago. XD
 

MastaofBitches

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#33
Old Iron said:
MastaofBitches said:
Old Iron said:
Very well. I shall set back to work.

I apologize, Work has been... stressful lately. Combined with other IRL issues, I suppose I was feeling rather depressed about things and I ended up taking it out on my writing.
If it's just depressing stuff you want to write, why not continue I Stand Alone? Plenty of depressing stuff there, but also the beginnings of an excellent character exploration fic.
That's an option I hadn't considered before. I suppose if I go that route to vent, then I'll end up giving it a fresh coat of paint.

The attempted sequel was... rather disastrous. But that was also a few years ago. XD
It wasn't bad, you should just focus more on character interactions, and relationships. I mean, both Vivio and Hayate are going to be be feeling damn guilty, Fate and Nanoha were in denial ect. Plus, Yuuno's own reaction to surviving his Heroic Sacrifice, and becoming the Fullmetal Librarian for his troubles.

Also, Vita becoming Epic Bro Tier.
 

lhklan

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#34
MastaofBitches said:
Old Iron said:
MastaofBitches said:
Old Iron said:
Very well. I shall set back to work.

I apologize, Work has been... stressful lately. Combined with other IRL issues, I suppose I was feeling rather depressed about things and I ended up taking it out on my writing.
If it's just depressing stuff you want to write, why not continue I Stand Alone? Plenty of depressing stuff there, but also the beginnings of an excellent character exploration fic.
That's an option I hadn't considered before. I suppose if I go that route to vent, then I'll end up giving it a fresh coat of paint.

The attempted sequel was... rather disastrous. But that was also a few years ago. XD
It wasn't bad, you should just focus more on character interactions, and relationships. I mean, both Vivio and Hayate are going to be be feeling damn guilty, Fate and Nanoha were in denial ect. Plus, Yuuno's own reaction to surviving his Heroic Sacrifice, and becoming the Fullmetal Librarian for his troubles.

Also, Vita becoming Epic Bro Tier.
Yeah I'm with Masta here. Beside, the sequel wasn't that bad, just a bit too Yuuno shilling even though he's not there.
Though I have this image of Hayate and Vivio visiting Yuuno in the hospital and all three acts like some sort of pseudo-family. :D
 

MastaofBitches

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#35
lhklan said:
MastaofBitches said:
Old Iron said:
MastaofBitches said:
Old Iron said:
Very well. I shall set back to work.

I apologize, Work has been... stressful lately. Combined with other IRL issues, I suppose I was feeling rather depressed about things and I ended up taking it out on my writing.
If it's just depressing stuff you want to write, why not continue I Stand Alone? Plenty of depressing stuff there, but also the beginnings of an excellent character exploration fic.
That's an option I hadn't considered before. I suppose if I go that route to vent, then I'll end up giving it a fresh coat of paint.

The attempted sequel was... rather disastrous. But that was also a few years ago. XD
It wasn't bad, you should just focus more on character interactions, and relationships. I mean, both Vivio and Hayate are going to be be feeling damn guilty, Fate and Nanoha were in denial ect. Plus, Yuuno's own reaction to surviving his Heroic Sacrifice, and becoming the Fullmetal Librarian for his troubles.

Also, Vita becoming Epic Bro Tier.
Yeah I'm with Masta here. Beside, the sequel wasn't that bad, just a bit too Yuuno shilling even though he's not there.
Though I have this image of Hayate and Vivio visiting Yuuno in the hospital and all three acts like some sort of pseudo-family. :D
That also creates another interesting connection to explore: How do Nanoha and Fate respond to the fact that Hayate and Yuuno are closer to Vivio than they are?
 

Old Iron

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#36
MastaofBitches said:
It wasn't bad, you should just focus more on character interactions, and relationships. I mean, both Vivio and Hayate are going to be be feeling damn guilty, Fate and Nanoha were in denial ect. Plus, Yuuno's own reaction to surviving his Heroic Sacrifice, and becoming the Fullmetal Librarian for his troubles.

Also, Vita becoming Epic Bro Tier.
The original was rather lacking in focus. And there's a lot of ground I could cover that I either didn't or just skimmed over.

And I blame the Nanoha/FSN crossover on Beast's Lair for creating the amazing entity that is Epic Bro Tier Vita.

lhklan said:
Yeah I'm with Masta here. Beside, the sequel wasn't that bad, just a bit too Yuuno shilling even though he's not there.
Though I have this image of Hayate and Vivio visiting Yuuno in the hospital and all three acts like some sort of pseudo-family. :D
That... could open up a lot of doors to explore. I'm beginning to imagine those three being a vaguely functional family unit in this setting. More so that the Nanoha/Fate/Vivio unit.

And I'll agree and admit I went a bit too far with the shilling.

MastaofBitches said:
That also creates another interesting connection to explore: How do Nanoha and Fate respond to the fact that Hayate and Yuuno are closer to Vivio than they are?
Hmm... probably not very well. But that does raise an issue (one of millions) that struck me as really bizarre about StrikerS era onwards. Namely how do Fate, who never had therapy for her nearly lethally abusive childhood, and Nanoha, who was raised by and amongst assassins when not living on her own, turn into these lovely dovey perfect parents? Or even managed custody of someone like Vivio?

I think I could do some good work with their reactions to the situation since it'd be another horrible truth they'd be forced to face and I think I did a decent job with Hayate in the original ISA's standalone.

Though if I do a rewrite, I'm thinking of scrapping the Jail thing. It's just so... not him. Even in a drunken fueled rage. And it comes out of nowhere. But then I get the problem of needing a new military disaster...

Chaos Marines?
 

Rising Dragon

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#37
Well, concerning that last point about Nanoha and Fate's ability to raise a child, I think you're being a mite bit unfair to Nanoha. She wasn't raised by assassins. She was raised by a retired bodyguard and a baker. By that time her parents were no longer in the ninja business.

You definitely raise a good point on Fate, though.
 

Old Iron

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#38
Rising Dragon said:
Well, concerning that last point about Nanoha and Fate's ability to raise a child, I think you're being a mite bit unfair to Nanoha. She wasn't raised by assassins. She was raised by a retired bodyguard and a baker. By that time her parents were no longer in the ninja business.

You definitely raise a good point on Fate, though.
This is true, I am being a bit unfair to Nanoha. Though I still hold the belief that she's still probably not the best choice to raise a child at this stage. But likely not nearly as bad as I seem to be imagining.

Fate would probably end up being a source of considerable tension regarding Vivio and her status with Yuuno and Hayate. Hayate at the very least since she's already set to lose her mind over the entire situation.
 

Rising Dragon

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#39
Well, for a little while StrikerS itself had Nanoha implying she too didn't think herself as a good choice for a parent. And it's understandable why she'd think that; anyone would. But I think it was just natural hesitance on her part and not Nanoha being aware she was incompetent for the role.
 

Old Iron

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#40
That's probably true.

Hmm... I'll need to really think on how to balance this out. I don't want to go over the top otherwise it'll diminish her feelings on the entire situation, but I can't understate it either. The scenario is just too volatile at the moment.
 

lhklan

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#41
Old Iron said:
MastaofBitches said:
That also creates another interesting connection to explore: How do Nanoha and Fate respond to the fact that Hayate and Yuuno are closer to Vivio than they are?
Hmm... probably not very well. But that does raise an issue (one of millions) that struck me as really bizarre about StrikerS era onwards. Namely how do Fate, who never had therapy for her nearly lethally abusive childhood, and Nanoha, who was raised by and amongst assassins when not living on her own, turn into these lovely dovey perfect parents? Or even managed custody of someone like Vivio?

I think I could do some good work with their reactions to the situation since it'd be another horrible truth they'd be forced to face and I think I did a decent job with Hayate in the original ISA's standalone.

Though if I do a rewrite, I'm thinking of scrapping the Jail thing. It's just so... not him. Even in a drunken fueled rage. And it comes out of nowhere. But then I get the problem of needing a new military disaster...

Chaos Marines?
I thought about Nanoha being a workaholic, but then I remember that either Yuuno is also a workaholic or his works in the IL requires him to be a workaholic. Well at least his could be changed so that he can actually take Vivio to work with him so...

As for military disaster... Space Pirate. TSAB is bad for business and they banded together to strike since Mid Childa is still recovering from Jail's Incident.

It also lend a more credible reason for Yuuno to unleash such powerful spells since these space pirates are all amoral bastards - one of them even leered at Vivio - and for the paperworks/headaches since Yuuno spells obliterated a lot of spaceships which have human lives in it.
 

Old Iron

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#42
Space Pirates would work far better for the conflict. And avoid having to deal with the backlash that is the unfortunate slaughter of TSAB crews stuck on the hijacked ships. He'd still be killing people, just not his own.

And I think with Hayate making stops by the IL and Vivio actually spending most of her free time there, he'd be forced to abandon a destructively workaholic attitude and just be stuck with the one he has in ISA. It's not much better, but at least he's able to see them enough that their demeanor towards him makes sense.
 

MastaofBitches

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#43
Speaking of Yuuno's Star Creation ability, what type of reaction would he have to the TSAB trying to recreate that ability and Spellwork? It doesn't seem like something they'd just leave alone, after all.
 

Old Iron

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#44
MastaofBitches said:
Speaking of Yuuno's Star Creation ability, what type of reaction would he have to the TSAB trying to recreate that ability and Spellwork? It doesn't seem like something they'd just leave alone, after all.
I have a feeling they's actually try to ban and keep a very tight lid on it since it's not actually magic, but rather the creation of natural phenomenon through magic. At least, once they figure out exactly what it is. To them it might be like magically fueled mass based weaponry. Then again, it could also be considered a rather unstable source of propulsion.
 

Rising Dragon

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#45
If it's creating an actual star, I'd figure out a way to turn it into a power reactor of sorts.
 

Old Iron

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#46
That's the end that is likely most in line with the image the TSAB wants to project.

Now they just need to figure out the mechanics and how to make sure the mage casting it doesn't die... >.>
 

Mr Coin00

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#47
Old Iron said:
MastaofBitches said:
Speaking of Yuuno's Star Creation ability, what type of reaction would he have to the TSAB trying to recreate that ability and Spellwork? It doesn't seem like something they'd just leave alone, after all.
I have a feeling they's actually try to ban and keep a very tight lid on it since it's not actually magic, but rather the creation of natural phenomenon through magic. At least, once they figure out exactly what it is. To them it might be like magically fueled mass based weaponry. Then again, it could also be considered a rather unstable source of propulsion.
Does this make Yuuno some sort of human god if he was able to create something out of his barriers alone? Since barriers are similar to borders, I recon that Yuuno is the human version of Yukari Yukumo. If Yuuno has a new nick-name, I'd call him "Border".

A ban on star creation? I can't blame the Bureau if they want to forbid it. I supposed an explosion from a dying star (Though mirco or nano in size compared to an average star) is a huge cause, and star creation might be too dangerous or too advance for them to start experimenting on.

Many things can be explored in I Stand Alone. Like character development. The cameo of different characters from Vivid and Force.The damages from the after-effects. I also imagine politics waging on, after the fiasco and the super-nova incident. I bet it was a huge mess. I wonder if Yuuno is going to be apprehended or turned into a scape-goat even though he saved Mid-childa? Or he was suspected of using some sort of powerful Lost Logia?
 
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