Bleach Isshin mans up

Prince Charon

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#51
Takerial said:
Prince Charon said:
BTW, your new .sig pic looks familiar, but I don't recall the name of the series.
Mine or his?

Mine is KissxSis. I should have a link to it in the signature.

If you're meaning his. That's Saber from Fate/Stay Night
Sorry, part of the post disappeared. It has since been replaced.
 

Takerial

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#52

Lanceavalon

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#53
Takerial said:
Lanceavalon said:
As I said before stop being a petty little shit thinking that childish insults make your opinion somehow stronger and back your self up with some facts, or GTFO.
Stop wasting my time with the opinions of a fool you don't have any facts to back your self up with so crawl back under your rock, your posts are pretty much a joke now. -_-
You haven't stated a single thing with a backed up fact besides a badly translated page with a character saying they're a bad father, to try and prove they're a bad father.
badly translated
I took it from One manga ironically enough when you just linked that site and I'll tell you what unless you can translate your self I think you should shut the fuck up about other persons skill in thing you have no idea about.

How about putting up some pages that had other translations, but that would be pretty hard when the only reason you say its bad is because it disagrees with you.

I'm sick of your bullshit so like most others on this site I'll just start ignoring your posts, I really do have better things to do.
 

Takerial

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#54
The reason I grabbed onemanga for that particular thing is because it expressed the mood regardless, that Ichigo blamed himself for it.

Onemanga is not good for accurate translations for the popular series. This is because they grab the earliest one released for all the new chapters and for series like Bleach, that means there is always inaccuracies with the rushed job.

And like I said before. It doesn't fucking matter if he agrees he's a shitty dad.

Because characters don't just say they're something, and it automatically makes them that.

I have said this before kid, and you still have yet to respond in any manner.

Which means to me that you have no idea how to respond to anything I've said because you honestly cannot understand past the basic face of things. You cannot understand subtext worth shit.
 

zeebee1

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#55
Have you forgotten what a gigai is? An imitation human body. I see no reason that a gigai could not be designed with the capability for pregnancy.
 

Takerial

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#56
zeebee1 said:
Have you forgotten what a gigai is? An imitation human body. I see no reason that a gigai could not be designed with the capability for pregnancy.
It would still produce a partially human Ichigo.

He wouldn't be alive otherwise, as Shinigamis are souls themselves.
 

Vexarian

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#57
Takerial said:
VexTheWarlord said:
Takerial said:
First off. You used a crappy translation. You really did. Where did you even pull that crap from.

Second off. A character saying or even thinking they're a crappy father does not mean they are a crappy father.

The reverse certainly isn't true. Genma certain thinks of himself as an amazing father for Ranma.

I think people would disagree with him.

So even if a character says that, that does not mean they are. It just means that something occured that makes them think so.

I suggested the most likely case would be that Isshin felt he couldn't do that much for his son while he wanted to.

Seriously man, do you take everything at face value? Are you that much of a child in thinking?
Genma actually is a decent father, It's just Fanon has warped him into a worthless sack of fat.
He traded his son for some food. (Ukyo's engagement)

He threw his son in a pit of starving cats tied with fish sausages to teach his son a technique because he was too stupid to read more than one page.

He went to a training grounds he knew nothing about because he didn't know chinese.

He's not as horrible as fanon makes him out to be. But he's not coming close to father of the year or even half-decent father material.
Well he didn't actually engage Ranma to Ukyo as far as I can tell, just said he would then made off with the Okinomiyaki Cart.

That's more petty theft then anything, and we've already known Genma's not above petty theft.

But if you're referring to the time he traded Ranma for a fish and two pickles, well that speaks less about Genma, and more about that Bastard who Genma traded with.

Bastard (I forgot his name), was willing to let a starving man and his infant son starve to death over at most ten dollars worth of food (and that's being generous). Unless of course Starving ManÖ, wasn't willing to take Little Miss Bastard off his hand's.

And the Neko-Ken is only half Genma's fault, if that. What sort of moron puts a disclaimer/warning label AFTER detailing an "Invincible Uber Technique", and considering RL Martial Arts Training, and the absurdities of the Takahashi-Verse, it seems like an entirely believable technique.

This is further supported by the fact that the training worked.

Jusenkyo is bullshit and you know it. Genma knew that Jusenkyo was a training ground, and that's really all that common sense would dictate he needed to know. Sure the place was Cursed, but even if he did know that ahead of time, why would he bother to believe such a thing? Hell, even if it's true, it'll just make it a harsher, and therefore better training ground to make use of.

I really wouldn't blame him for the actual results.
 

Takerial

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#58
I'm not saying he's a horrible bastard of a father.

I'm just saying he's not the awesome father he thinks he is.
 

Vexarian

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#59
Takerial said:
I'm not saying he's a horrible bastard of a father.

I'm just saying he's not the awesome father he thinks he is.
That I agree with.

Although to be fair, none of the parents in Ranma 1/2 are particularly great.

Soun is neither the paragon of paragonness, nor the useless sack of useless that he's made out to be in Fanfiction (Which is weird, because it's only extremes with this guy).

Nodoka is nuttier then a squirrel's stash.

Principle Kuno... 'nuff said.

Can't comment on Urusei Yatsura, and Inuyasha seems a bit more grounded in reality, at least regarding character interactions.

But enough about topics not even vaguely related to this thread, or hell, sub-forum.
 

Takerial

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#60
VexTheWarlord said:
Takerial said:
I'm not saying he's a horrible bastard of a father.

I'm just saying he's not the awesome father he thinks he is.
That I agree with.

Although to be fair, none of the parents in Ranma 1/2 are particularly great.

Soun is neither the paragon of paragonness, nor the useless sack of useless that he's made out to be in Fanfiction (Which is weird, because it's only extremes with this guy).

Nodoka is nuttier then a squirrel's stash.

Principle Kuno... 'nuff said.

Can't comment on Urusei Yatsura, and Inuyasha seems a bit more grounded in reality, at least regarding character interactions.

But enough about topics not even vaguely related to this thread, or hell, sub-forum.
It was related in the fact that someone saying they're something, does not mean they are that.
 

Kale

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#61
Lanceavalon said:
A you recall that giant under ground training area in Soul Society where Ichigo trained his Ban-Kai and no one noticed... IN soul society? There is one of those under Urahara shop think real hard about that and realize just how wrong you are.
Yeah, and Urahara said that he recently dug that. Not sure how seriously to take him though, since he's being quite theatrical about the whole thing.

Source: http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/59/12/
 

Lanceavalon

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#62
Kale said:
Lanceavalon said:
A you recall that giant under ground training area in Soul Society where Ichigo trained his Ban-Kai and no one noticed... IN soul society? There is one of those under Urahara shop think real hard about that and realize just how wrong you are.
Yeah, and Urahara said that he recently dug that. Not sure how seriously to take him though, since he's being quite theatrical about the whole thing.

Source: http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/59/12/
Well in the end it is my opinions that form the idea that are backed up by the manga, if anyone has PROOF that my interpretation is wrong feel free to point it out.

Such as a translation where Isshin doesn't believe he is a worse Father then Ryken Ishida. Why he believes that isn't stated and therefor my assumption is valid.

If all you can do is throw your opinions at me while acting the an obnoxious ass because I don't agree then don't bother.

But yes Kale that makes sense either Urahara is screwing with Ichigo which he does often, or he was able to make that training area very quickly.
 

Takerial

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#63
Lanceavalon said:
Kale said:
Lanceavalon said:
A you recall that giant under ground training area in Soul Society where Ichigo trained his Ban-Kai and no one noticed... IN soul society? There is one of those under Urahara shop think real hard about that and realize just how wrong you are.
Yeah, and Urahara said that he recently dug that. Not sure how seriously to take him though, since he's being quite theatrical about the whole thing.

Source: http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/59/12/
Well in the end it is my opinions that form the idea that are backed up by the manga, if anyone has PROOF that my interpretation is wrong feel free to point it out.

Such as a translation where Isshin doesn't believe he is a worse Father then Ry?ken Ishida. Why he believes that isn't stated and therefor my assumption is valid.

If all you can do is throw your opinions at me while acting the an obnoxious ass because I don't agree then don't bother.

But yes Kale that makes sense either Urahara is screwing with Ichigo which he does often, or he was able to make that training area very quickly.
If Isshin was a bad father, why did he go out of his way to make sure Ichigo realized he didn't blame him for his mom's death when Ichigo asked him about it.

You fail hard.
 

Lanceavalon

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#64
Takerial said:
Lanceavalon said:
Kale said:
Lanceavalon said:
A you recall that giant under ground training area in Soul Society where Ichigo trained his Ban-Kai and no one noticed... IN soul society? There is one of those under Urahara shop think real hard about that and realize just how wrong you are.
Yeah, and Urahara said that he recently dug that. Not sure how seriously to take him though, since he's being quite theatrical about the whole thing.

Source: http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/59/12/
Well in the end it is my opinions that form the idea that are backed up by the manga, if anyone has PROOF that my interpretation is wrong feel free to point it out.

Such as a translation where Isshin doesn't believe he is a worse Father then Ry?ken Ishida. Why he believes that isn't stated and therefor my assumption is valid.

If all you can do is throw your opinions at me while acting the an obnoxious ass because I don't agree then don't bother.

But yes Kale that makes sense either Urahara is screwing with Ichigo which he does often, or he was able to make that training area very quickly.
If Isshin was a bad father, why did he go out of his way to make sure Ichigo realized he didn't blame him for his mom's death when Ichigo asked him about it.

You fail hard.
How many years later did this happen? Yeah he was really on the ball.
You still have yet to give any evidence to support your opinions. Stop trolling the thread your wasting my time.

 

Takerial

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#65
Lanceavalon said:
Takerial said:
Lanceavalon said:
Kale said:
Lanceavalon said:
A you recall that giant under ground training area in Soul Society where Ichigo trained his Ban-Kai and no one noticed... IN soul society? There is one of those under Urahara shop think real hard about that and realize just how wrong you are.
Yeah, and Urahara said that he recently dug that. Not sure how seriously to take him though, since he's being quite theatrical about the whole thing.

Source: http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/59/12/
Well in the end it is my opinions that form the idea that are backed up by the manga, if anyone has PROOF that my interpretation is wrong feel free to point it out.

Such as a translation where Isshin doesn't believe he is a worse Father then Ry?ken Ishida. Why he believes that isn't stated and therefor my assumption is valid.

If all you can do is throw your opinions at me while acting the an obnoxious ass because I don't agree then don't bother.

But yes Kale that makes sense either Urahara is screwing with Ichigo which he does often, or he was able to make that training area very quickly.
If Isshin was a bad father, why did he go out of his way to make sure Ichigo realized he didn't blame him for his mom's death when Ichigo asked him about it.

You fail hard.
How many years later did this happen? Yeah he was really on the ball.
You still have yet to give any evidence to support your opinions. Stop trolling the thread your wasting my time.

You're an idiot, really.

Your only point of reasoning for him being a bad father, is one scene where they are talking about being bad fathers. NO actual action that shows he is one. A character saying something is not definite proof. Do you go around listening to people and believe everything they say or something?

And you don't really know if this is the first time he told Ichigo not to blame himself. It could be the first time that they had this type of talk about it, a man to man talk. But you can't formulate that it is the first time he told Ichigo not to blame himself.

Again, you take things at face value. You cannot fucking take things at face value. If you could take everything at face value and it was 100% accurate, then the damn story would suck so much that you wouldn't be able to bear reading it.

But you are right, I'm wasting my time because you don't have the writing ability worth my time in trying to steer you on a better path.

So really, have fun being a sucky writer.
 

Vexarian

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#66
Takerial said:
Lanceavalon said:
Takerial said:
Lanceavalon said:
Kale said:
Lanceavalon said:
A you recall that giant under ground training area in Soul Society where Ichigo trained his Ban-Kai and no one noticed... IN soul society? There is one of those under Urahara shop think real hard about that and realize just how wrong you are.
Yeah, and Urahara said that he recently dug that. Not sure how seriously to take him though, since he's being quite theatrical about the whole thing.

Source: http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/59/12/
Well in the end it is my opinions that form the idea that are backed up by the manga, if anyone has PROOF that my interpretation is wrong feel free to point it out.

Such as a translation where Isshin doesn't believe he is a worse Father then Ry?ken Ishida. Why he believes that isn't stated and therefor my assumption is valid.

If all you can do is throw your opinions at me while acting the an obnoxious ass because I don't agree then don't bother.

But yes Kale that makes sense either Urahara is screwing with Ichigo which he does often, or he was able to make that training area very quickly.
If Isshin was a bad father, why did he go out of his way to make sure Ichigo realized he didn't blame him for his mom's death when Ichigo asked him about it.

You fail hard.
How many years later did this happen? Yeah he was really on the ball.
You still have yet to give any evidence to support your opinions. Stop trolling the thread your wasting my time.

You're an idiot, really.

Your only point of reasoning for him being a bad father, is one scene where they are talking about being bad fathers. NO actual action that shows he is one. A character saying something is not definite proof. Do you go around listening to people and believe everything they say or something?

And you don't really know if this is the first time he told Ichigo not to blame himself. It could be the first time that they had this type of talk about it, a man to man talk. But you can't formulate that it is the first time he told Ichigo not to blame himself.

Again, you take things at face value. You cannot fucking take things at face value. If you could take everything at face value and it was 100% accurate, then the damn story would suck so much that you wouldn't be able to bear reading it.

But you are right, I'm wasting my time because you don't have the writing ability worth my time in trying to steer you on a better path.

So really, have fun being a sucky writer.
It really doesn't matter what you, or I, or anyone else says. Because Lanceavalon has already made up his mind that Isshin is a pile of unworthy horse shit.
 

Takerial

Well-Known Member
#67
VexTheWarlord said:
Takerial said:
Lanceavalon said:
Takerial said:
Lanceavalon said:
Kale said:
Lanceavalon said:
A you recall that giant under ground training area in Soul Society where Ichigo trained his Ban-Kai and no one noticed... IN soul society? There is one of those under Urahara shop think real hard about that and realize just how wrong you are.
Yeah, and Urahara said that he recently dug that. Not sure how seriously to take him though, since he's being quite theatrical about the whole thing.

Source: http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/59/12/
Well in the end it is my opinions that form the idea that are backed up by the manga, if anyone has PROOF that my interpretation is wrong feel free to point it out.

Such as a translation where Isshin doesn't believe he is a worse Father then Ry?ken Ishida. Why he believes that isn't stated and therefor my assumption is valid.

If all you can do is throw your opinions at me while acting the an obnoxious ass because I don't agree then don't bother.

But yes Kale that makes sense either Urahara is screwing with Ichigo which he does often, or he was able to make that training area very quickly.
If Isshin was a bad father, why did he go out of his way to make sure Ichigo realized he didn't blame him for his mom's death when Ichigo asked him about it.

You fail hard.
How many years later did this happen? Yeah he was really on the ball.
You still have yet to give any evidence to support your opinions. Stop trolling the thread your wasting my time.

You're an idiot, really.

Your only point of reasoning for him being a bad father, is one scene where they are talking about being bad fathers. NO actual action that shows he is one. A character saying something is not definite proof. Do you go around listening to people and believe everything they say or something?

And you don't really know if this is the first time he told Ichigo not to blame himself. It could be the first time that they had this type of talk about it, a man to man talk. But you can't formulate that it is the first time he told Ichigo not to blame himself.

Again, you take things at face value. You cannot fucking take things at face value. If you could take everything at face value and it was 100% accurate, then the damn story would suck so much that you wouldn't be able to bear reading it.

But you are right, I'm wasting my time because you don't have the writing ability worth my time in trying to steer you on a better path.

So really, have fun being a sucky writer.
It really doesn't matter what you, or I, or anyone else says. Because Lanceavalon has already made up his mind that Isshin is a pile of unworthy horse shit.
Heh, true. I should have realized that when his only motivation is something a five year old should be like "Hey that's not right."
 

Prince Charon

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#68
Takerial said:
Prince Charon said:
Takerial said:
Prince Charon said:
BTW, your new .sig pic looks familiar, but I don't recall the name of the series.
Mine or his?

Mine is KissxSis. I should have a link to it in the signature.

If you're meaning his. That's Saber from Fate/Stay Night
Sorry, part of the post disappeared. It has since been replaced.
Ah, Raine's signature is http://www.onemanga.com/Omamori_Himari/
Ah, thought it looked familiar. "... I shall pop out my ears and tail, and meow at thee."
 

byakuryuu

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#70
Posting in a thread where not one, not two, not three, but FOUR people butt heads.

Over the internet!

Where it means nothing!

Which is something!

lololololololol
 
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