Naruto Jutsu-Tan!

[kuopiofi]

Ban? You can ban people from your topic?

Ban them from making stupid t: posts, tho' I'm pretty sure Fosfor did ban someone from posting because he was too stupid/ troll.

:huh.: Seems to me to be the only way to keep this thing IT.

 

[ar_ranma]

kuopiofi, topic creators can't literally ban people from posting.

The only moderation power topic starters (on this board anyway) have is the ability to delete their topics.

The only things Meinos Kaen can do are: Tell people to stop posting off-topic stuff, threaten to delete the topic, actually delete the topic, make scathing remarks at stupid posters, or ignore the situation.

---Yes, I realize this post is probably contributing to the problem more than helping it.

Seriously guys, it's common netiquette to listen when a topic starter asks you stop. It's their topic not yours.

Btw, the delete post option is at the bottom of the page (any page in your post) is a drop down menu labeled "Moderation Options". Just so you know.

Sorry for the off-topic post Meinos.

 

[the DragonBard]

Oh crap I just realized Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu and Susanoo have to follow Itachi around if they're gonna be in the real world.

I wonder... are those the celestial Kami, or do they just have the same name (which might confuse them)

If they're the same kami, what does Tsukuyomi think of the fact that the Moon was created as a giant seal?

 

[Anonymous_Guest]

Susanoo is more of a summon than a technique, I think.

 

[daniel_gudman]

Susanoo is more of a summon than a technique, I think.

Actually.... what about summoning technique itself? Kuchiyose no jutsu... it's used by a lot of higher-level ninja.

I'm kinda interested to see the personalities of the jutsu that attach themselves to the bad guys, too.

 

[Nightshade]

It would be :rofl: as hell if the stretching thing Orochimaru did was
personified as Gumby

 

[Anonymous_Guest]

Actually.... what about summoning technique itself? Kuchiyose no jutsu... it's used by a lot of higher-level ninja.

Therein lies the paradox. The Kami exists from the energy put into the technique.

The less known, or more difficult a technique is, the fewer people will use it, and power the Kami.

Thus S rank (In most cases) or omghax techniques would logically have mediocre strength Kami, at best.

 

[daniel_gudman]

Actually.... what about summoning technique itself? Kuchiyose no jutsu... it's used by a lot of higher-level ninja.

Therein lies the paradox. The Kami exists from the energy put into the technique.

The less known, or more difficult a technique is, the fewer people will use it, and power the Kami.

Thus S rank (In most cases) or omghax techniques would logically have mediocre strength Kami, at best.

Well... I guess the counter-question I have is "what do you mean by strength as a Kami"?

It seems like a Kami that is sustained by a huge number of chakras would be strong, but a Kami of a super-technique would be nourished by extremely high-quality chakra as well... wait, strong ninja would definately know the basic techniques, so the broadly-known techniques would also be supported by strong chakras.

Hmm. I guess that means bunshin, henge, and kawarimi are probably the strongest kami by far since literally every ninja in the series probably knows them. Shunshin might be close to that league, too.

 

[Anonymous_Guest]

Hmm. I guess that means bunshin, henge, and kawarimi are probably the strongest kami by far since literally every ninja in the series probably knows them. Shunshin might be close to that league, too.

That's what I was thinking. And what I meant by strength of the Kami, would be how much energy they have available.

Also, as far as I know, chakra doesn't have a quality. The amount of chakra comes from the user's control, and bodily reserves, but chakra in essence is just energy. The quality of a ninja comes from how much chakra they produce, and how much is wasted in channeling into the technique, but its all the same stuff. Energy is energy.

Another side thought, Bushin, along with the other E ranks, might be powerful, but there might be a downside. Bushin is rather absent minded, so Meinos seems to be implying that the more complex a technique, the smarter, or more adaptable it is. Of course, it could just be a quirk of that particular Kami.

 

[daniel_gudman]

Also, as far as I know, chakra doesn't have a quality. ... Energy is energy.

Weeelll... when I say "energy quality" I'm approaching more from an engineering background than a pure science background. Electricity is more "useful" than heat because you can use it to do more stuff; you can use it for lights and electronics and resistive heating and appliances etc etc, whereas heat can be used to, well, heat things or run an engine, which turns heat into a more "useful" form of energy.

I guess I'm thinking of "chakra quality" as being like steam quality.

 

[Rakhasa]

If they're the same kami, what does Tsukuyomi think of the fact that the Moon was created as a giant seal?

Let's remember exactly _who_ told us that little fact. He may be a Good Boy, but not exactly a reliable, honest or, for that matter, sane source.

 

[the DragonBard]

If they're the same kami, what does Tsukuyomi think of the fact that the Moon was created as a giant seal?

Let's remember exactly _who_ told us that little fact. He may be a Good Boy, but not exactly a reliable, honest or, for that matter, sane source.

Point.

Though Nagato seemed to have believed him, or had another source that said the same thing.

 

[zeebee1]

Pein believed that he was making a bomb. He didn't need the original body of the Juubi for that.

 

[cilrais]

Pein believed that he was making a bomb. He didn't need the original body of the Juubi for that.

Pein also made a small moon float in the air, while thinking to himself that the original Sage of six paths made the current moon in the sky... soooo

 

[Delusionist]

In order to have created the moon with that technique, the Sage would have had to take so much material that it would significantly alter the gravity of the planet, and probably cause massive orbital weirdness unless he managed to pull material equally from the entire surface. I don't know the specifics, not remembering orbital dynamics right off hand, but I'm pretty sure the claim is absurd on the face of it. Edit: On second thought, this seems very much like a Kishi-math situation, so it's probably true.

 

[Tornado Ninja Fan]

In order to have created the moon with that technique, the Sage would have had to take so much material that it would significantly alter the gravity of the planet, and probably cause massive orbital weirdness unless he managed to pull material equally from the entire surface. I don't know the specifics, not remembering orbital dynamics right off hand, but I'm pretty sure the claim is absurd on the face of it. Edit: On second thought, this seems very much like a Kishi-math situation, so it's probably true.

That's only the case if that moon is the same size as our moon. It could be a much smaller moon in a lower orbit.

Pain's copy of the sage's technique created a sphere, so the moon created by the sage doesn't even have to be massive enough to be rounded by its own gravity.

 

[Avider]

There's a concept called orbital velocity you know.

 

[Rakhasa]

That's only the case if that moon is the same size as our moon. It could be a much smaller moon in a lower orbit.

Pain's copy of the sage's technique created a sphere, so the moon created by the sage doesn't even have to be massive enough to be rounded by its own gravity.

Or it is simply a fairy tale. The moon can easily hold inside a monster the size of Japan and no have a noticeable change.

If the Sage sealed the monster in the Moon, and the Sage had a technique than can create small moons, then it will not be long before the tale changes to tell than he actually created the moon.

And Pain is megalomaniatic enought to believe that. "I can already create small moons!! Now I only need the power of the bijuu and I will be unstoppable!!!MUAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!"

 

[Tornado Ninja Fan]

There's a concept called orbital velocity you know.

Yes. What's your point?

EDIT: If you wanted to say that the moon of the Naruto world has an orbital period of a month and therefore has to be at the same distance as our moon - no one ever said what the orbital period of their moon is.

 

[daniel_gudman]

There's a concept called orbital velocity you know.

Do not introduce conservation mechanics to any series with magic. Therein lies only confusion and the rending of hair.

 

[Rakhasa]

Do not introduce conservation mechanics to any series with magic. Therein lies only confusion and the rending of hair.

And the death of catgirls. Think on the catgirls!!!!

 

[Master of Squirrel-Fu]

Think on the catgirls!!!!

If I was on a catgirl I'd be doing more than just thinking.

 

[Delusionist]

One thing we can conclusively deduce if this is correct is that they either had no moon and no tides before the time of the Sage, or the original somehow got blasted out of orbit. Edit: Unless the tides are also magical in this universe.

 

[Anonymous_Guest]

One thing we can conclusively deduce if this is correct is that they either had no moon and no tides before the time of the Sage, or the original somehow got blasted out of orbit. Edit: Unless the tides are also magical in this universe.

Or Pain was spouting grade A bullshit he might have genuinely believed because hes batshit insane. Has noone considered the plothole 10tails being sealed in a preexisting moon?

Im no physicist, but a 'moon' the size that Pain made low enough in the sky to look as large as our moon.. and keeping in mind its orbit must be stable..

Im pretty sure it would be moving fast enough, and close enough to the atmosphere, such that it would be a molten globe of superheated material spewing down liquid death to the poor souls below.

It would probably also be creating the mother of all sonic booms. Constantly.

 

[Souffle]

One thing we can conclusively deduce if this is correct is that they either had no moon and no tides before the time of the Sage, or the original somehow got blasted out of orbit. Edit: Unless the tides are also magical in this universe.

Or Pain was spouting grade A bullshit he might have genuinely believed because hes batshit insane. Has noone considered the plothole 10tails being sealed in a preexisting moon?

Im no physicist, but a 'moon' the size that Pain made low enough in the sky to look as large as our moon.. and keeping in mind its orbit must be stable..

Im pretty sure it would be moving fast enough, and close enough to the atmosphere, such that it would be a molten globe of superheated material spewing down liquid death to the poor souls below.

It would probably also be creating the mother of all sonic booms. Constantly.

I'm pretty sure Sonic Booms happen only once unless you're dipping UNDER it then going over it again.