Kamen Rider InterKnight (Kamen Rider/Meta)

[Irksome Productions]

From the IRC.

<IrksomeProductions>: We now need to think about Kamen Riders representing various websites.
<Aarik>: I think someone already got to work on that
<H-Man>: They need to be *good* websites.
<Aarik>: I rememeber a kamen rider Google from SOMEWHERE
<IrksomeProductions>: Obviously, TFF's gimmick is manipulating reality warping.
<H-Man>: Ew, Google.
<IrksomeProductions>: Not reality warping itself.
<IrksomeProductions>: But manipulating acts of reality warping.
<H-Man>: ...what's the diff?
<Aarik>: Tff's gimick is flamewars and threadjacks.
<H-Man>: Well, that clearly means it breathes fire!
<IrksomeProductions>: I just said that
<Aarik>: then again
<Shirotsume>: Oh man
<IrksomeProductions>: Threadjacks
<Aarik>: yeah
<Shirotsume>: Hey, real quick, bit of a tip when you're using f.lux
<Shirotsume>: If you're having trouble smashing through something and it's late
<Shirotsume>: Disable flux for an hour
<Cosgrove>: so, its obvious that we'd be like Den-O, except that we possess people and make them into a rider for a bit to fight the monsters. The upgrade is fire-based
<IrksomeProductions>: When fighting a reality warper, TFF-Rider can hijack their acts.
<Shirotsume>: It'll blow your eyeballs out and keep you up and reading
<H-Man>: Anyway, reality warping doesn't happen all the time. Are all the villains going to do it?
<Cosgrove>: well, presubably, the reality warping is the fusion of a creator's work with reality into a monster that destroys things
<Aarik>: Wait
<H-Man>: ...I guess FF.n-Rider is going to be a Rider-tan?
<Aarik>: Reality warping occurs during natural events called stories
<H-Man>: And consistently threatened by the big evil monsters that TFF-Rider saves?
<Aarik>: attacking and warping these 'stories' are kaijin, called 'trolls'
<IrksomeProductions>: Yeah.
<IrksomeProductions>: Consistently attacking big evil monsters that TFF-Rider saves.
<H-Man>: ...hahaha.
<IrksomeProductions>: SB-Rider obviously is insane and heavily armed.
<Aarik>: Honestly, a better comparison, would be a more... Weak but Skilled vs Unskilled but Strong.
<Aarik>: TFF's quality per Writer ratio is... lulz compared to ffn
<Cosgrove>: FF.N rider has gone mad and seeks the destruction of the world through the proliferation of bad stories
<Aarik>: but FFN has so many
<Aarik>: So many
<Aarik>: FFN is a monstrously strong idiot that has no idea what it's doing.
<Cosgrove>: Those creators that escape become a rider of justice to stop stories from becoming bad
<Cosgrove>: thats possible too
<IrksomeProductions>: Yes.
<IrksomeProductions>: We have a base idea, now.
<Aarik>: TFF is a monstrously skilled angry person who set everything on fire
<H-Man>: ...its final form is Tiamat.
<H-Man>: And its heads are Tiamats.
<IrksomeProductions>: FFN is a monstrously powerful idiot who blunders through things.
<H-Man>: Which, themselves, are tiamats.
<H-Man>: I meant that one.
<IrksomeProductions>: Which Tiamat?
<H-Man>: The final form when it undeniably must be defeated.
<Cosgrove>: so, obviously we slowly weaken from our powers being destructive until we 'die' and then are reborn through an ally's efforts, IE OTFF to NuTFF
<IrksomeProductions>: Chromatic dragon queen?
<H-Man>: The six-headed dragon.
<IrksomeProductions>: Ah
<Aarik>: Maybe the orichi design would be better, one bug head surrounded by seven smaller ones.
<Aarik>: orochi*
<IrksomeProductions>: Okay, we need one more place to be the final "Rider" for the group.
<Aarik>: big*
<H-Man>: YouTube?
<Cosgrove>: Beast's Lair?
<IrksomeProductions>: Spacebattles?
<H-Man>: Already brought up.
<IrksomeProductions>: Yeah, by me.
<Aarik>: SB works as the rider who has fucktons of giant guns.
<Aarik>: mostly, their best at screaming facts at people.
<IrksomeProductions>: Yes, while Beast's Lair is the OCP one, with magic.
<Cosgrove>: but anything erotic automatically shuts down SB
<Watashiwa>: And BL is weak against cherries.
<Aarik>: Sb is incredibly shy, Ryoga style
<Watashiwa>: /rimshot
<Shirotsume>: So SB's an inexperienced virgin with guns.
<Aarik>: and zonks out at the slightest flash of skin?
<Shirotsume>: *beat* No way that could go wrong
<IrksomeProductions>: ...That sounds hilarious.
<H-Man>: ...cherries?
<H-Man>: ...
<Aarik>: Wait
<Aarik>: this idea leads to SB fighting Trolls with giant cannons.
<IrksomeProductions>: Which cannot be bad.
<H-Man>: It'll be worse if TFF and FFN, being the lemon party they are, end up being girls so often.
<H-Man>: "Why would they-"
<H-Man>: "Why. Not."
<IrksomeProductions>: FFN is a female rider.
<Aarik>: yeah.
<IrksomeProductions>: New at it, with monstrous potential, yet...
<Aarik>: and she's a Fujoshi.
<IrksomeProductions>: Yeah.
<H-Man>: We need a catchphrase too.
<IrksomeProductions>: Now, count up your fics!
<H-Man>: Kamen Rider InterKnight.
<Aarik>: Hmmm
<IrksomeProductions>: ...Yes
<Aarik>: maybe make the stories like a meta world
<Aarik>: like how Ryuuki had the mirror world
<H-Man>: Sure.
<Aarik>: The riders must protect the stories from the trolls, lest the trolls turn the Stories great powers upon the world.
<Aarik>: That way we can use various famous fics as setting points, if we want, or just use various settings as arena's to fight in.
<H-Man>: ...you know, I think FFN would believe it's a Magical Girl.
<H-Man>: It's not one, but it doesn't get the joke.
<Cosgrove>: and it refuses to listen to people about it?
<Aarik>: Considering she probably has trouble not shattering buildings by accident, sure why not, that sounds pretty magical girl power wise.
<H-Man>: "All magical girls ride motorcycles, what is your problem?!"
<Aarik>: ...
<Aarik>: No, I will not contemplate a Kamen Rider 4chan
<Aarik>: With different forms based on the sections at- NO, NO, NO

Continuing conversation here.

 

[Zephyrus]

This is madness.

I HEARTILY APPROVE.

 

[Irksome Productions]

Stuff decided on:

Premise: The world of stories is a vast and wondrous place. Many forces seek to use the power of stories for their own ends, manipulating the fabric of reality and weakening the wall between fiction (Delusion?!) and reality.

The most powerful of these are the Trolls.


S1 Mooks: Summer kids. Caricatured faces, shorts, ect.
S2 Mooks: Anons. Suits, faceless, ect.

S1 MotW: Weak trolls, flamers, ect.
S2 MotW: Empowered Trolls

S1 Villain: TvTropes-Tan?
S2 Villain: 4Chan-Rider. Fractured personality, many forms.



Main Riders:

TFF-Rider: Empowered by a mighty bird spirit, it's skill is only matched by the flames of it's rage.

FFN-Rider: Not a "Rider", but an ultra-strong, dumb as a rock magical girl. Fujoshi to the core.

SpaceBattles-Rider: His powers are guns, guns, and more guns. Incredibly shy/prudish. Freezes up when anything lewd appears.

Beast's Lair-Rider: Magician-type. Stops being useful and starts ranting whenever cherries are brought up.

 

[Aarik]

Names.

Kamen Rider TFF: Tucker Foley (line of sight name)
Kamen Rider FFN: Susan Wherry (pun on mary sue)
Kamen Rider BL: Farrel Lair (pun on feral)
Kamen Rider SB: Dexter Ardal. (random stuff mashed together)

Kamen Rider 4Chan: Aron A. Mouse (duh)

 

[Irksome Productions]

Names.

Kamen Rider TFF: Tucker Foley (line of sight name)
Kamen Rider FFN: Susan Wherry (pun on mary sue)
Kamen Rider BL: Farrel Lair (pun on feral)
Kamen Rider SB: Dexter Ardal. (random stuff mashed together)

Kamen Rider 4Chan: Aron A. Mouse (duh)

Hammering out personality traits...


Tucker: Arrogant. Believes himself to be better at almost anything than others are. Eventually becomes bros with Dexter. Pyromaniac?

Susan: Ditzy. Not the brightest of girls. Demands that people call her by her last name first, "The Nippondo". Occasionally has a brilliant idea, though. Yaoi fangirl, and drifts off into her imagination when things happen.

Farrel: Usually quiet guy. When someone gets a minute fact wrong, blows up at them and starts frothing. Goes on rants about the virtue of cherries whenever they're mentioned.

Dexter: Weapon nut. General response to a problem is to shoot at it, and then shoot some more. Can be derailed by technical specifications. Totally freezes up if anything at all erotic happens in his presence.

 

[FinalMax]

What, no love for Junk Guild? That board dedicated space solely to toku shows like Kamen Rider.

 

[Aarik]

Oh right, forgot.

Kamen Rider Tumblr: officially, Smith Johnson, But...

According to Him: Tumblr.

According to TFF and SB: John Sonsmith, Son Johnsmith, John Smithson, Johnson Smith, Smithson John, Smith Sonjohn, and any other combination they can think up at the time.

 

[Irksome Productions]

My rough outline of the seasons. Assume parentheticals are "As interpreted by FFN-tan)


S1- Introduction, character development, teamwork

E1-2: Intro of Magical Girl (MAHOU SHOJOU!) FFN-Tan, fighting a Troll, unsuccessfully, and destroying the world she's fighting in.

TFF shows up, kicksplodes the monster, and asks if FFN-Rider has any idea what she's doing. EXPOSITION

E3-8: Monsters of the week. Hints of something more behind them.

E9-14: The enmity between Rider TFF and Rider SB builds (Love at first fight!). Conflict. Brofist at the end as they realize that their real foes are Trolls, though still rivals.

E15-20: Building up metaplot. Trolls are showing up more and more in the same bit of turf.

E21: Breather ep.

E22-25: The most powerful Troll yet (TOTALLY NOT PERFECT LIONHEART) shows up. First fight ends with heroes in retreat, regrouping and combining powers (SQUEEEEEEEEE!) to defeat him.

End of E25, TVT-Rider shows up, pissed and attacking TFF-Rider

E26: Eventual victory+burnout.


S2- Rise of the Anons.
E1-8: Slow decline of TFF-Rider's power. Smith Sonjohn shows up and fights Riders TFF and SB. Ominous background villain spotted.

Culminates with him sidelined. SB and FFN Riders take up his job.


E5-10: Copycat arc. Evil? imitators of TFF show up, getting easily kicked around.

E11-16: Introduction of BL-Rider. Set up of 4chan-Rider as villain.

E17-20: Sideplot,

 

[Irksome Productions]

Sorry this took so long... I was busy


My rough outline of the seasons. Assume parentheticals are "As interpreted by FFN-tan".



S1- Introduction, character development, teamwork

E1-2: Intro of Magical Girl (MAHOU SHOJOU!) FFN-Tan, fighting a Troll, unsuccessfully, and destroying the world she's fighting in.

TFF shows up, kicksplodes the monster, and asks if FFN-Rider has any idea what she's doing. EXPOSITION

E3-8: Monsters of the week. Hints of something more behind them.

E9-14: The enmity between Rider TFF and Rider SB builds (Love at first fight!). Conflict. Brofist at the end as they realize that their real foes are Trolls, though still rivals.

E15-20: Building up metaplot. Trolls are showing up more and more in the same bit of turf.

E21: Breather ep.

E22-25: The most powerful Troll yet (TOTALLY NOT PERFECT LIONHEART) shows up. First fight ends with heroes in retreat, regrouping and combining powers (SQUEEEEEEEEE!) to defeat him.

End of E25, TVT-Rider shows up, pissed and attacking TFF-Rider

E26: Eventual victory+burnout.


S2- Rise of the Anons.
E1-8: Slow decline of TFF-Rider's power. Smith Sonjohn shows up and fights Riders TFF and SB. Ominous background villain spotted.

Culminates with him sidelined. SB and FFN Riders take up his job.

E5-10: Copycat arc. Evil? imitators of TFF show up, getting easily kicked around.

E11-16: Introduction of BL-Rider. Set up of 4chan-Rider as villain.

E17-20: Sideplot, TFF regaining confidence in himself after his loss of powers, ends with a cliffhanger.

E21 -23: SB/FFN/BL are fighting Anons and 4Chan's boosted Trolls, slowly losing ground.

E24-26: "I lose my powers and you can't get anything done, huh?" Rider-4Chan defeated.



S3- #######

Nothing, yet.

 

[The Ero-Sennin]

I agree. Junk Guild needs love.

 

[zerohour]

For TFF Rider regaining his power, having voices or sages talking to him about his power, their source, and why they're waning could be an interesting plot point. Could be a fun way to have TFFers cameo in the story without them becoming significant characters once TFF's has regain his powers.

 

[Aarik]

Part of the point of making SB and FFn and especially 4Chan so powerful as riders was to effect the size difference.

TFF is SMALL compared to all of them. Power was determined relative to size of site, which is why 4chan is the final big bad. 4chan is mind breakingly huge.

Skill was determined roughly by average quality of total output. Which is why FFN is monstrously stronger then TFF, but TFF is monstrously better at fighting then FFN.

SB is far larger then TFF, and it's power is represented by Guns, lots of guns, and just ranged armaments in general, but I've been to space battles, while it's fanfic output averages is of higher average quality then FFN, there's still fucktons of shit and nonsense, of a far higher ratio then TFF has. Putting Kamen Rider SB between KR FFN and KR TFF on the scale.

I don't use BL enough to make a call, though it doesn't seem much larger then TFF as a whole. KR TFF and KR BL are probably roughly even raw power wise. BL just has more range.

Kamen Rider 4chan's split personalities and absolutely INSANE amount of raw power mean it slides all around the scale of Skill in each of it's many many forms. It requires a team up by the other riders to even have a chance at winning.

Tumblr... Joke Villain. Regardless of power.

Junk Guild needs someone who uses it frequently to build on it or supply information so a rider can be made.

Other riders could also be mentioned in passing, like a Kamen Rider for Myspace who died awhile ago, or Facebook, or Twitter, or a Super Smart Rider named Google who teaches his super martial art, Google Fu to young Riders in training or something. Or better yet, since Google isn't so much a site as a... Force of the internet honestly. Having Google be represented as a martial art slash cosmic principle ala The Force from Star Wars makes more sense. "Just Google it Tucker!". Bing is obviously The Dark Side.

Yes it's a necro. I'm one of the people who made the idea and the post is relevant to the thread. Deal with it.

 

[Aarik]

KAMEEEN RAIDAH~
INTERKNIIIGHT~

-----

In the World of Delusions, Fantasies of Great Power sleep, many monsters and madmen seek to abuse the power of Delusion to corrupt the world to their desires.

Protecting the power of the World of Delusions, the Kamen Riders, they fight to defend humanities dreams.

But the cost of being a hero is sometimes steep...

Two armored warriors stand in a dark street, one is bathed in garish colors that swirl and change at random, flowing across it's armor like running water color paint. All except it's helmet's large Black insectoid eyes and pure gleaming white hands and feet. On it's helmet is a crescent moon, with the left side short, and the right side elongated with a bar going through it, making a tilted cross.

The other is Blue with white markings in the shape of a diagram with a circle with an rectangle with one rounded side next to it, it's helmet's own eyes are also insectoid, perfectly round, with the same rounded side rectangle underneath, making odd tear marks, a set of five more rim the crown of it's forehead, with a larger white circle with two smaller ones on each side, with two even smaller ones beside those, with the same odd rectangles sticking upward, with the rounded side pointed down at the circles, making a crown. His armor was coated with scratches and gouges and dents, and a large spot that looked almost like a gun had pierce through, the hole in the center of the dent was bleeding.

The Blue Warrior... No. The Blue Rider spread it's arms, white sphere's appearing behind him.
"RIDER SPAM!" with his cry, the sphere's burst into thousands of orbs that spread outwards, before streaking towards his enemy.

The black eyed Rider merely raised his pristine white hand.

"Like Wall."

A barrier of randomly colored rectangles stacked on top of each other formed before the Rainbow Rider, the white orbs of light impacted it and exploded, blocking the painted knight from sight.

The Blue Rider. Kamen Rider MySpace, leapt up, doing a back flip over a ten story building while the smoke kept the condition of his target hidden from his eyes.

"Dammit, what hurts this bastard?!" MySpace suffered no illusions. There was not a chance in hell that attack had even reached that trolling retard.

A strong gust blew away the smoke, showing the colorful crusader to be unharmed.

"Nothing harms me, nothing can fight true justice. Social Justice." White fisted Rider declared.

"BULLSHIT! RIDER KICK!" Kamen Rider Myspace did a flying leap off the building he had perched on, did a flip and came down in a flying kick.

The fashion disaster Rider sighed.

"Useless. Die like the Ableist fool you were in life. Tumblr Chop Cascade." with a simple chopping motion with his right hand...

A wave of white lines covered from him out into the horizon, and crossed in the same direction as the motion of his hand, all the buildings in their path were cut.

Without even a chance to scream, Kamen Rider MySpace was chopped into pieces.

His Net Driver Belt clattered to the ground at the crescent headed riders feet, completely undamaged.

"With my Power, I, Kamen Rider Tumblr, shall wield the World of Delusion to make a world of true justice a reality. All the Privileged and the Ableist shall be purged from the Earth." he crowed, as he took the now riderless Net Driver.

"Privileged white trash." He threw the Driver aside. It vanished in white light, to seek a new Rider.

"Once I find a way to destroy the other Net Drivers, I will stand as the final Rider, and the World of Delusion shall be mine and mine alone. My army of summer kids shall hunt down the riders and with the power bequeathed upon me, my Anons, I shall destroy them all." He exclaimed.

He already has the power of Delusion. Self Delusion.

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See above post.

Got bored, felt like doing this.

Post idea's damn you.

 

[H-Man]

I don't blame you for starting this up, but what level of evilness is tumblr at compared to 4chan?

 

[Aarik]

I don't blame you for starting this up, but what level of evilness is tumblr at compared to 4chan?

Kamen Rider 4Chan has as one of his passive Powers the ability to spawn his own uber Mooks, called Anons, who themselves can spawn Summer Kids.

Anons are middle of the Road on the Troll Scale, mook trolls are weaker but require a different approach to deal with, fully powered high level Trolls are much stronger then any Anon.

Summer Kids are the weakest of the lot, essentially disposable mooks for disposable mooks, even Kamen Rider TFF can kill them with his finishers, and he can't kill ANYTHING with his finishers.

Kamen Rider Tumblr is strong as all hell. If Kamen Rider TFF tried to fight Tumblr by himself, he would straight up die, about as badly as poor old MySpace did.

Kamen Rider 4 Chan makes him look like a chump, especially in /b/ form.

4Chan is the final boss of season 2, Tumblr is the midboss of the overall arc but the final boss of Season 1.

4Chan is giving Tumblr access to his Anons to further his own plans, using Tumblr as a proxy, because 4Chan can't yet control his form changes, and while /b/ is the strongest personality and can force control over most of the other forms, it doesn't last long, and some of his inner White Knights would ruin any plan he tried to run if he did it himself.

Especially /m/, /v/ and /tg/, maybe a few others, I'd have to do a lot of research on individual 4Chan boards general personalities to give one to their form on KR 4Chan.

4chan has placed a sequence of barriers to hold off the Trolls, who have been gone a decent amount of time, and just when the riders start feeling like they're finally getting a break- TUMBLR INTERRUPT.

When Tumblr is finally defeated, 4Chan will keep the barriers up awhile longer, then all those built up Trolls will all flood out at once, Trollmagedon.

/b/ Form draws it's power from the power of Trolling and Butthurt, it will use the rampancy of the trolls and the damage they cause and the fights they inflict to become powerful enough to dominate all of his other personalities and retain control of the other forms.

Tumblr's Plan is absolutely insane and has no chance of actually working. Even the world of delusion can't make something as stupid as social justice work in a real world.

Tumblr's fighting style and special moves revolve around his hands, basically variations on Rider Chop and his own Rider Finger (Really powerful rider pokes, to the point he's essentially stabbing you with his fingers.) with the same variation on his Like Wall, which is a layered redundant shield.

TFF uses Rider Punch and Rider Kick, LOTS AND LOTS OF PUNCH AND KICK. He's the weakest Rider in the city and he knows it, his style revolves around dodging and special move SPAM, it's less like the show where the special finishes the fight and more like a fighting game where you have to use like 12 special moves in a combo over the entire fight to kill the enemy. He has a LOT of special moves, just dozens and dozens of them and most of them involve rapid fire spam strikes.

SB uses Rider Shooting. Obviously. Lot's of variations on it, his casual attacks invoke Moar Dakka, with machine guns and sweeping Miniguns, double shotgun barrages, kitano circus missile barrages and radiant rainbow waves of beam spam, his Finishers tend to be the opposite, highly accurate, stupidly powerful shots based on the philosophy of 'One, at sufficient velocity.'. First thing to remember about KR SB: "Melee combat and fair fights are for idiots.", his only melee ability is using his Rider Hammer, it's tiny and gimpy compared to his massive guns and he has no actual idea on how to use it. He is fully aware of this.

FFN uses Rider Slash. We all get the pun, moving on. Her attacks have little to no real variation and are all variations on the same thing with no originality. They make up for it by being batshit insanely POWERFUL. It's like she throws the entire ocean where everyone else throws buckets. She's on the opposite spectrum from TFF, she has more trouble landing her attacks then she does killing the enemy with them in 99% of all cases. She's the only one who can match Tumblr in brute force, but Tumblr is so much better at fighting then her he'd beat her like a drum.

BL uses Rider Cutting, Rider Stab and maybe Rider Bladeworks. Has a LOT of random minor powers that makes him extremely useful to have around, but in a fight hit's weaker then even TFF as compensation. Is good at rules lawyering his way around his own weaknesses using his numerous abilities. Act's as team wizard, buffs, debuffs, aoe effects, illusions, weak elemental abilities, a lot of random shit. Getting him and his many Buffing powers on board is basically the only way TFF can be anything more then an annoying distraction after a certain point. Squishy Wizard is SQUISHY.

 

[H-Man]

You know, the last episode of Kamen Rider Wizard made me wonder if maybe the issue with KR TFF is the possibility of spawning a trollsona for it [which would die once TFF revives]? You know, in part because all Kamen Riders are made from the same thing as the villains they face, but also because of that period where the board was lawless and flamewars were common.

 

[Aarik]

You know, the last episode of Kamen Rider Wizard made me wonder if maybe the issue with KR TFF is the possibility of spawning a trollsona for it [which would die once TFF revives]? You know, in part because all Kamen Riders are made from the same thing as the villains they face, but also because of that period where the board was lawless and flamewars were common.

That is a possibility depending on how I set up the troll myth arc, but I was actually planning on, rather then having tff die and come back in a new costume, just get more and more stressed and angry due to his seeming lack of usefulness.

I want TFF to not be a carbon copy of all the other main riders, being the weak but skilled character rather then the rider who wins every fight in one hit, being the one struggling next to the Rider(s) who DO kill the enemy in one hit rather then ignoring a massive cast of weak losers who only matter for four episodes or so.

One of TFF's powers is that he can FORCE people to immediately pay attention to him instead of what they should actually be doing or focusing on, that and his fire powers are... All he has.

And this PISSES HIM OFF.

Most of the symbolism based on Hawk and the new forum are... Pointless. Hawk was never very active and we knew from the start that backing up the old backlog of forum posts is what would be needed to move TFF. It just took us awhile to get it done properly.

It was less dying and more spiraling into depression before getting our shit together and getting into a better headspace, which would make a great CHARACTER ARCH, rather then a cliche jesus copy pasta where we come in and solve everything with our new super powers dues ex machina style.