League of Legends

Spaz

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#1
<a href='http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Legends' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>League of Legends Wikipedia</a>

Any y'all play? I main Sona.
 

atlas_hugged

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#2
Really? Sona?

Meh. Got my first pentakill today with Malzahar. Still lost, because tweedle dee and tweedle dum joined my game. I'm not one to blame my losses on other people usually, but these two were dual queing as ezreal and Ashe, and they would cooridinate their ults (always launching them at the same time). Unfortunately, in a 40 minute game I can count the Total number of ults they hit on one hand.
 

Demjou

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#3
Been playing since september/october of last year, mostly main Garen, Malz, and lux, though I do play akali, galio, Cait, and Malphite a good bit too.
 

Croaker

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#4
*rolls face on keyboard*
Sona status: Mastered B)
 

WizardOne

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#5
Too busy playing Hon and laughing at the Nazi populated Lol Forums sorry.
 

angrytiger0jg

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#6
I also play League of Legends, primarily as Nasus, Lux and very occasionally as Tristana/Fiddlesticks. My main trouble is that I can't ever seem to find a room where the Team Composition would justify my playing an assassin type character; which is the one thing I want to try that no guide on the net seems to be able to teach.
 

Croaker

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#7
HoN player calling the LoL community bad rofl
 

atlas_hugged

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#8
New patch notes are out. Not sure how I feel about Tenacity. On the one hand, it's yet another unneeded nerf to CC. On the other, now I won't have to always by Mercury treads. There could actually be a reason to get the dodge boots now.
 

WizardOne

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#9
Croaker said:
HoN player calling the LoL community bad rofl
This is this, and that is that.

Hon forums: Very little morderation and trolls abound (anarchist)

Lol forums: Everything is moderated, and unpopular opinions are hidden and removed from global awareness (Nazi's)


I'll stick with my free speech thanks.
 

Croaker

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#10
ucal said:
New patch notes are out. Not sure how I feel about Tenacity. On the one hand, it's yet another unneeded nerf to CC. On the other, now I won't have to always by Mercury treads. There could actually be a reason to get the dodge boots now.
It's not actually a nerf to cc since it doesn't stack and merc treads are still the best source of it. CC will still be the thing that wins games. And the tenacity items are actually p.bad too!
Tumble is bonkers powerful though. Autoattack steroid/reset+like 1s of cooldown after that autoattack!
Wit's end nerf, tragedy.

shit about forums
your mistake was visiting the official forums.
 

shiki

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#11
I'm more concerned about the new champ.

All the other stuff looks good, but the W is going to be a bitch depending on how much it works. Saw in the preview that it took a huge chunk out of Jarvan's HP with auto attacking.
Her regular move speed looks pretty slow as a side note. If that is any consolation.

I mean, I'll buy her anyways... but
 

atlas_hugged

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#12
Croaker said:
ucal said:
New patch notes are out.? Not sure how I feel about Tenacity.? On the one hand, it's yet another unneeded nerf to CC.? On the other, now I won't have to always by Mercury treads.? There could actually be a reason to get the dodge boots now.
It's not actually a nerf to cc since it doesn't stack and merc treads are still the best source of it. CC will still be the thing that wins games. And the tenacity items are actually p.bad too!
Tumble is bonkers powerful though. Autoattack steroid/reset+like 1s of cooldown after that autoattack!
Wit's end nerf, tragedy.

shit about forums
your mistake was visiting the official forums.
Agreed about the official forums. I don't have much experience with any others, but the Official LoL forums are just horrible. The sad part? The developers posting on them are part of the problem. Most of them anyways.

As for the CC nerf, I still view it as one, because it gives more options for counter measures. Especially on carries, since one of the tenacities builds from philosophers stone (from what I've heard), a decent good gold/5 item . So now the good players who play carries are no longer forced to get merc treads, and indeed, can get a relatively decent item and have some decent CC reduction as well, plus getting more optimal boots.

Time will tell though.

What do you guys think of Rumble so far? He seems to be another champion that is freely ignorable in any sort of teamfight situation, at least the way most people play him.
 

Croaker

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#13
Philstone is actually a pretty bad item. Carries should never get it. Usually you see it on support champs who are hanging out in lane letting the carry with them get all the cs. Also so they can build a shurelya's out of it. The Tenacity item that builds out of it, though, is terrible because the only place philstones are useful is while laning so you're harder to push out, after which regen is a pretty irrelevant stat.

Rumble is really cool. His flamethrower has a 1.5 AP ratio if you can get the whole thing on someone (with a rylais you can if they don't have a blink), and in the danger zone the ratio is close to 2.0. 1.0 ratio if you can land both harpoons on someone (1.3 in danger zone). And his ult, regardless of ap ratio (.5 initial, 1.25 over time), is amazing area denial in a team fight. Brutalize the fuck out of your enemies in laning with flamethrower at level 1, never let them recover from it. D.Shield, Rylais, Mercs, then tanky or ap or whatever the game needs.

Vayne's 6300 IP, so sad. Silver bolts maxes at 70+8% max health of true damage. yessssss.


Need a team of like, Mundo, Shaco, Malphite, Renekton, and Nida or Kat. Allchat KILL THE BATMAN at all times and always focus Vayne.
 

shiki

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#14
Picked up Vayne. Range is 555, so better than I expected. Base speed is 310, so faster than I expected.

She is pretty beastly with just auto attacks and her q is super good: 55%-70% AD Dmg boost and it procs sheen/Trin. Too bad her q doesn't let you hop over walls.

That plus the passive w does boatloads of dmg. Add a Madreds and she is the perfect anti-tank. Although, Thornmail will mess her up just like any other AD champ.

The E scales pretty crappy and the knock back isn't as far as Poppy's Heroic charge, so its not that useful as a stun during laning unless the opponent is stupid as fuck or you get really lucky.

R basically gives her super mode for a couple of seconds, very useful when they are running away as it boosts MS and AD hugely.

Surprisingly, despite the low mana pool, she isn't too mana hungry. Not including the E.

On the other hand, she is kind of squishy (not as much as ez or twitch or Tf, but still).

Also, Range is only 555, so to harass you pretty much have to use Q.


Me thinks a nerf will come in a couple weeks.
 

Croaker

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#15
Madred's is actually a pretty bad item if it's not your primary source of damage. As an autoattack dude, your damage is mostly physical, so you build arpen and shit. It does magic damage, needs spell pen, and almost always does less damage than a similar gold investment in physical damage. It works great on kog since his steroid does magic damage too, so he usually builds spell pen, but otherwise you have to center your build around it to make it good.

Thornmail is worse than Randuin's :\

Vayne's E applies silver bolts, so it's nowhere near bad.
 

shiki

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#16
Bah, Madred's has its uses. I don't use it when I build pure DPS, but it is useful against the high HP off tanks. And if you have been raping their tank, the guy will probably have more armor than magic resist. The only thing bad is that it is so expensive.

Thornmail is awesome. Its cheap and it gives 100 armor. Passive is also useful early- to mid game. Even when the passive's utility drops off, it is still decent from the 100 armor. Well this is assuming that there are auto-attackers on the opposing team.

I agree with RO tho'. That sucks ever since they nerfed it a bunch of times.

As for the E thing, you can't argue that the scaling isn't that great and it costs a boatload of mana to use. Sure, It is useful in the jungle or when you want to position the target or as a way to get them off you, but it isn't that great as a stun.

Well, I'm done. Sleep time.
 

Munch

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#17
useful against the high HP off tanks
Who tend to build R. Which hardcounters Madred's.

I honestly don't understand why it doesn't just use true damage - the things that Madred's is SUPPOSED to counter, counter it pretty well.
 

Demjou

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#18
Probably doesn't use true damage, simply due to the fact that it would then be way over powered. With the lowest base health at lvl 18 being 1565 and the highest being 2422 your talking about a item that would deal a MINIMUM of 62-96 true damage per shot, depending on the champ.

Throw in the fact that most champs that use bloodrazor end up with a attack speed of 1.5-1.8 per second, and your talking about a champ suddenly dealing a extra 120 or so true damage every second, which is basically a ramped up version of Vaynes Silver Bolts (W).

Such a amount of true damage would just eat through any tank in very little time, and a carry/support would melt even faster. It would basically turn team fights into, who can kill the bloodrazor user first.
 

Spaz

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#19
I come back a day later and discussion takes it own life. I'm still pretty nooby at this stuff, so...

Who wants to play? :D
 

Demjou

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#20
Go ahead and add me in game, though I doubt I'll play on patch day...

In game name is DemJou, what lvl are you?
 

Croaker

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#21
Madreds is 3.8k gold. That is way too much to put into a damage build to deal 60-130 damage an attack that checks against a resist you don't penetrate well. Banshee's, Merc, and 30 base MR is cutting your damage by half, and those are really common items. If they're stacking armor, a last whisper does much more for your ad carry. Add on that most ad carries have skills that scale with ad, which it doesn't give much of... The biggest use of it, imo, is jungle buff/dragon/baron speed.

Such a amount of true damage would just eat through any tank in very little time, and a carry/support would melt even faster. It would basically turn team fights into, who can kill the bloodrazor user first.
Not unlike the game of GET TO THE KOGMAW.

As for the E thing, you can't argue that the scaling isn't that great and it costs a boatload of mana to use. Sure, It is useful in the jungle or when you want to position the target or as a way to get them off you, but it isn't that great as a stun.
.5 of bonus ad isn't good, but on the other hand, it's a stun. at all.
 

Demjou

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#22
Croaker said:
Such a amount of true damage would just eat through any tank in very little time, and a carry/support would melt even faster. It would basically turn team fights into, who can kill the bloodrazor user first.
Not unlike the game of GET TO THE KOGMAW.
Kog'maw...he either ends up nothing to worry about, or my source of rage for a game...Though that all depends on weather or not my team knows WHO TO FREAKING FOCUS.

As for bloodrazor, IMO, it's a niche item, meant to be brought out on champs like Kog'Maw or Warwick, who have abilities that sync well with it, or when you have 3+ people with more then 3k health each, or a single tank with more then 5k. Though a lot of people just get it for the armor and AS more then anything from my experience.
 

atlas_hugged

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#23
demonic_jounin said:
Croaker said:
Such a amount of true damage would just eat through any tank in very little time, and a carry/support would melt even faster. It would basically turn team fights into, who can kill the bloodrazor user first.
Not unlike the game of GET TO THE KOGMAW.
Kog'maw...he either ends up nothing to worry about, or my source of rage for a game...Though that all depends on weather or not my team knows WHO TO FREAKING FOCUS.

As for bloodrazor, IMO, it's a niche item, meant to be brought out on champs like Kog'Maw or Warwick, who have abilities that sync well with it, or when you have 3+ people with more then 3k health each, or a single tank with more then 5k. Though a lot of people just get it for the armor and AS more then anything from my experience.
I play AP kog maw. Nobody ever focuses me, because I'm always half a screen length behind the tanks. :D

Seriously. Once you get used to aiming the ultimate consistently, you destroy teams, and it's fun as hell. Especially typing "BOOM! HEADSHOT" on a clutch kill on a fleeing enemy.
 

Demjou

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#24
Yeah, that's one of the times I despise him...I honestly love catching AP kogs off guard. You can practically hear the "Oh Shit" through the monitor.
 

Souffle

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#25
League of Legends?



I should stop playing. I've almost played it as much as I've played World of Warcraft. Which i have a year /played.

If i main anyone, it's probably Poppy and Irelia for Melee, Caitlyn and MF(Hopefully soon Vayne) for Ranged physical, Veigar, Vladmir and Annie for magic, Rammus for tanking.

I want a legendary skin for Vayne that shoots Poppys. So much.
 
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