Harry Potter Left a Wife in the Will, and a Related Idea

zeebee1

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#26
You thought too hard. I see Draco as someone who is tolerated out of sheer necessity. But he wouldn't have any real power. All he can offer is potentially powerful children. He definitely is not someone who knows how to manipulate things like you suggested.
 

Lord Raine

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#27
That's how the old Draco would have been, yes. But war can change a man. So can anyone with a box of diapers, really, but that's not the point. I see no reason that a longer and more brutal war couldn't have made Malfoy smarter and more manipulative. He was already fairly clever, even in the books. He was just impulsive, and acted first before thinking things through. A few Crucios from Voldemort due to mistakes hastily made could provide an ample cure for that, though.

For Draco to survive for long in the limbo that is Lucious resisting him being made a full Death Eater but Voldemort insisting he serve the cause, Draco would have to become smarter and more careful. The only reason that position didn't kill him in canon was luck and plot. But here, that luck isn't there, and the plot plays out more slowly. Draco would be forced to adapt or die. I'm choosing to go with the interpretation that he would adapt, because the interpretation that he dies in a ditch somewhere for failing Voldemort for the last time just isn't that entertaining.

Though, all that being said, it is a potential idea that Malfoy is actually being manipulated by one of the female students into becoming her puppet. That could be an interesting line to take. Malfoy is doing all the things I said he is, and has all those ambitions, and might even have a shot at them if Harry wasn't around, but there's a manipulator and chessmaster far superior to Draco in his harem, and she's the one pulling his strings. He's just not quite perceptive enough to see it.
 

Ordo

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#28
During VoldemortÆs purge of magical Europe, he attempted to claim Hogwarts as his own, but the assault failed. However, the castle was heavily damaged, and forced to close. It has only just recently been stated by the reformed School Board that it will reopen this school year, with expansions and modifications to the castle to accommodate the new influx of students, along with full faculty rosters and the addition of teacher assistants to help accommodate the new size of the student body. Hogwarts is now as much an experiment as it is a school. An attempt at organized magical instruction of this scale has never taken place before, and success or failure here will have far-reaching consequences, not just for the rebuilding society of magical Europe, but also whether or not continental Europe will decide to expend the resources and political power necessary to recreate their own magical schools.
A few thoughts.

Since Europe is so devastated by the war, would it not be possible that they may reach out to other continents for assistance? I mean if I read your post correctly, Africa, Asia, Australia, Japan, and the Americas were untouched by the magical civil war, and IÆm sure that there are talented and capable teachers that could be found amongst those lands. IÆm not saying this should be a major focus but a touch of flavoring and world building, and a chance to play around with how wizards from other nations/traditions work their magic, and teach it to the young.

Now any males from these foreign lands thatÆs brought in to help teach will be extensively vetted to make sure they donÆt intend to take advantage of the situation. I also imagine that most of the ones who are picked to teach will tend to be other men with grandchildren, or happily married.

Also since the school has been expanded and now has many more students, itÆs likely that theyÆll need a larger staff to ride herd on all these students.

Possible Examples of Hogwarts Foreign Staff:

Care for Magical Creatures-An older Rancher type from the USA Midwest or an Aussie Big game hunter (ôI capture and release thank you very much.ö)

Potions- A Mad scientist (*HarryÆs lips turned down as the goggle wearing professor swept into the room, threw up his hands and said* ôWhose ready for Potions!ö)

Transfigurations û An initially serious looking Japanese business man, turns out to be a master cosplayer of indeterminate gender that may or may not be human. (ôI donÆt knowà.those fox ears look a tad to real to meàö *teacher continues on, energetically discussing the course as his/her/itÆs three tails swish behind)

Herbology û A foregin farmer possibly from Asia or Africa

Muggle Studies û A former reporter for a reputable muggle newspaper/news organization

I also imagine that Harry wouldÆve been offered the teaching position in ôDefense against the Dark Artsö If he turns it down, then the person they got to fill the role could feel threatened to see such a knowledgeable superstar in his class, or might make Harry his unofficial TeacherÆs Assistant. If Harry accept, then he has to juggle his school load, plus prepare lessons and grade papers. Something Hermione would be all too happy to help him with.

If you were to go with Harry becoming the teachers T.A. IÆd pattern the professor after the child of a government spook, the more or less worked as that for his nations wizarding community. Harry might even know the person from the war as they provided some aid to his side.
 

Lord Raine

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#29
I actually had an idea involving a time-traveling older Harry who was a mad scientist. I had this whole plot centered around the idea of escalating magitechnology in the future war against Voldemort, eventually culminating in Harry building a functional time machine and going back to be a teacher at Hogwarts. I had his character, personality, and quirks all worked out, but the idea never really got off the ground.

Harry would be tall, somewhat thin, and very athletic, like an action scientist or one of the swashbuckling adventurer-wizards of the bygone days of pre-modern fantasy literature, before video game squishy wizards ruined the idea by saying that badass wizards should be frail old men, and not Indiana Jones with a longsword in one hand and deepfire in the other.

He has a manic personality; energetic, outgoing, exciteable, and very interested in whatever he happens to be around at the time. He has a deep fondness for loud Hawaiian shirts, which he leaves partially unbuttoned, the long white labcoat that he wears over that, and Betty, his favorite enchanted shotgun that he uses to kill <s>zombies</s> Inferi.

I'd kind of kept the character in the back of my head, because while the story never really went anywhere off the drawing board, I really like the look and feel of a manic, mad-scientist wizard with Hawaiian shirts and shotguns.

I see no reason we couldn't use that here. Just tweak the backstory a bit, and it's good to go. He's obviously not actually Harry Potter, and he wouldn't be a time-traveler either, but there's no real need to change anything else. Just give him a new name and assign him to a class, and he's good to go, sweeping up and down the halls, sandals flip-flopping and labcoat billowing, going on in class about the applied theories of magical science. Hell, that could be a new class. Magical Science.
 

Prince Charon

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#30
Lord Raine said:
Harry was a freak anyway. You guys should probably just admit that already. The biological cutoff point for a male viewing surrounding females "as a sister" is around three. They have to be around each other pretty much nonstop for this to occur. Beyond that threshold, that effect doesn't kick in. Harry was a freak to begin with, presumeably because Rowling doesn't quite understand how little boys work (which is forgivable, as not everyone knows human biology and psycology).
OK, this part, I pretty much agree with. The rest I'm only not going to argue about because I've already determined that you and I will not at all convince each other of anything, but Harry's mental oddities are not and should not be in doubt. Boy had problems, not all of which can be explained by his upbringing.

I am starting to wonder if I should put something about my opinions of the relationship between canon and fan fiction in my .sig, but I'm not sure how to word it so people will know what I'm talking about.

Maybe something like 'Things that happen in fan fiction can and will contradict canon, and that's not always a bad thing.' but that doesn't quite cover it.

I have to wonder what a Harry Potter with plausible character development would act like, and how he, not canon Harry, would respond to getting a harem.

Mind you, how sane would a Harry with plausible character development be? You must admit, his life is more than a little stressful.

LightningHunter said:
Prince Charon said:
You're basically saying 'WAAH, people like a paring I don't, that isn't canon.? Now I MUST insult them.'? Its pathetic.
Except he isn't. It doesn't come across like that even remotely.

He's making fun of people who are upset that canon didn't go the way they wanted. As such, there's no "waah"-ing on his part.
Read the rest of the post you quoted, to see why I think what you're saying is pointless and/or silly in this instance.

It really does read like he's whining.
 

Lord Raine

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#31
The rest I'm only not going to argue about because I've already determined that you and I will not at all convince each other of anything
I don't have to convince you that you're wrong. I read the books, and thus know you are. Any objections to the contrary just shows your inability to be unbiased. There was little between Ron and Hermione. There was nothing between Hermione and Harry. If you disagree, feel free to prove me wrong with examples. I will admit defeat if you can.

I can already tell you, though, that the best you're going to be able to come up with is "they spent a lot of time together and sometimes did things alone," but the same goes for Hermione and Ron as well, and that's proof of friendship, not proof of unrealized sexual tension. Now arguing all the time, 'that' is an indication of some sexual tension of some sort. At least in Fictionland it is.

You might also mention the ball scene, but as I've pointed out in the past, you can make anything look pretty with magical potions, actual for-real wizardry, and seven hours of preptime. And Harry never mentioned it again. And if I recall correctly, this was the first time he even noticed that she had had her buck-teeth fixed. You know who wouldn't notice that? Somebody who wasn't paying much attention to her body. Also known as "someone who is not interested."

OK, this part, I pretty much agree with.
Of course you do. If you remove it from the context of the rest of the post and the point I was trying to make, it supports you.
 
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