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seitora

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Konosuba Volumes 6 + 7

It occurs to me they really did have to have a movie for LN 5. Not specifically because that warranted a movie (though the set-up did), but because you can't end a season on volume 6! It needs to end on volume 7! Volume 6 and 7 go very much hand-in-hand, and with this weird 10-episodes-a-season thing the first two seasons did, I doubt they'd want to expand it to 15 episodes to capture all of Volumes 5-7. Plus, the very last scene of Volume 7 would be a perfect way to end a season on. It's definitely nice to read these too, since they're what I assume will be in the 3rd season.

Definitely hoping they play up Iris as a cute little sister figure.

Kazuma and Chris teaming up to infiltrate the castle together is a great scene, and very much a day out in the limelight for Kazuma after he gets beat up again for being a 'deadweight weakest-class Adventurer' again. He gets to really show off his skill when he's allowed to break loose. The reason they infiltrate the castle is to steal a dangerous magical relic. It is a body swap artifact. Huh. My ideas for an aged up Iris and Kazuma are already fomenting

There is a scene in volume 7 that I'm pretty certain will not make it into the anime. It's a scene where an adventurer thinks a noble is seducing his female teammate and tries to break them up, only to find out the noble is a homosexual who fancies him and was just asking his female teammate how to get close to him. It's played for laughs and there's no real bigotry, but it's the sort of tired, cliche 'expose your gays' that would be incredibly insensitive nonetheless.

If Volume 5 was Megumin's book in the spotlight, Volume 7 is very much Darkness'.

Something that I find mildly curious is that...Megumin and Aqua always seem to be lacking for money. Aqua pulls an Aqua and buys what is presumed to be a dragon egg (probably a chicken egg, though I'm expecting there'll be some subversion), so she's gold-digging for sure. Megumin is stated at one point to be sending home to her parents, and probably has to buy magic-related stuff from time to time, but it's still curious. They both get equal shares for killing generals like Hans and Sylvia and a hydra in Book 7, and it's really not small change at all. At one point, Yunyun is mentioned to be living at the local inn in Axel. Right now, I go with the KazuMin ship, but if I started to lean towards a KazuMinYun thing for a fic, it'd probably be with Kazuma and Megumin getting Yunyun to come live at the mansion and save on renting a room in Volume 6.

There's a cute, random scene early on in volume 7 as Kazuma is petting Chomusuke, and he lampshades all his manga tropes. He tells her he wouldn't mind if she turned into a cute catgirl who goes 'meow' as a verbal tic and wakes up next to him in his bed one day like that (but then proceeds to tell her even if that isn't the case, he's still happy to have her around and will continue to feed her fish every day).

In other news, I've been downloading these books, but I definitely intend to get the entire set of 17 LNs ordered here shortly to actually support them.
 

MastaofBitches

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At one point, Yunyun is mentioned to be living at the local inn in Axel. Right now, I go with the KazuMin ship, but if I started to lean towards a KazuMinYun thing for a fic, it'd probably be with Kazuma and Megumin getting Yunyun to come live at the mansion and save on renting a room in Volume 6.
To be fair, Kazuma and Yunyun apparently did go on a few dates in the Webnovel.
 

seitora

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Apparently, she was a few years older in the WN? Well, doesn't really matter to me. Megumin and Yunyun are the same age basically, so if the age dynamic is good enough to ship Megumin with Kazuma (as has been mentioned before apparently is the canonical pairing), that should hold true for Yunyun too.
 

seitora

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Konosuba Volumes 8 + 9

V8 is all about Chris. And the goddess Eris, too. And how they're one and the same, like that's not a spoiler most people become aware of fairly quickly in the fandom thanks to how so many fics just outright drop that fact in fairly early.

Kazuma is surprisingly able to compartmentalise Chris and Eris...mostly. He still teases Chris from time to time with sexual jibes, but he's noticeably more conservative with what he says to her than he was to other girls, and even apologises to her for having stolen her panties with Steal (though I would have been interested in a scene where he asks Chris why Steal seems to be doing that for him with girls). In turn, Chris actually does seem to separate herself from Eris, ever so slightly. For one, she's occupying a mere mortal body instead of something with the flat-out power that Aqua does. Two, she seems moderately more comfortable interacting with and teasing Kazuma, too. Her not padding her chest also shows how Eris separates out the two personas

The majority of the book involves Aqua trying to usurp an Eris Appreciation Festival and replacing it with an Aqua Festival, instead. Kazuma intercedes and shows his leadership by getting the town's commerce chamber to hold them both together in a larger super-event, and try to play the two off against each other to get the Eris Church and Axis Cult to spend more of their own money. It works, mostly. Kazuma, being Kazuma, lets it get to his head and starts coming up with stuff to satisfy his own interests, like having the salesgirls wear swimsuits. Or letting the succubus wander out in the daylight as 'cosplay' (though to be fair, this could actually be portrayed as a nice guy thing if the succubus girls haven't really been able to wander around in open public much). Then it swings back around again when the Axis Church keeps opening up scammer stalls, at which point Kazuma takes charge and leads them into quickly rebranding into more respectable food stalls in a neat scene where he uses his acquired Cook Skill to open a yakisoba stand.

Also, there's an Eris beauty pageant thing. When it looks like things might fall apart, Kazuma convinces Chris to show up as Eris on stage, which leads to a really impressive in-universe moment. Eris shows up just once and absolutely everybody in the audience is convinced (correctly) that Eris descended to give her blessing. Aqua in ruins because she can't seem to convince anybody she's a real goddess. This also helps Kazuma capture a pervy armour Sacred Treasure that wants to find a girl to wear it. Oh yeah, that was a thing.

Volume 9 seems a little more distracted and over the place. Another demon general is attacking one of the kingdom's forts. Kazuma and co show up and find out the demon general is able to use Explosion. Cue a competition between Megumin and the demon general, and of course they have a little bit of backstory together. It's not quite a Megumin LN, but it definitely leans towards being another book all about her.

There are a few Darkness route flags. But more Megumin route flags. At one point, she even watches him get changed, without flinching. Even after re-reading the scene, I think Kazuma changes literally everything, so he gets full frontal on her. He even lampshades the two routes to Chris, even talking in the whole 'routes' terminology. This finally culminates in the end of Volume 9, where Megumin flat-out confesses to Kazuma, and he actually gets the guts to confess back to her in the same conversation. Of course, they just leave it at that and some cuddling, so now the line of 'will they or won't they' has moved from when they'll confess, to when they'll get intimate. That's not entirely correct, however. They briefly hold hands in Volume 8, and we all know hand-holding is the lewdest, most intimate act in existence.

Anyways, I think I am moving closer to my KazuMinYun idea. I have sketched out a plot progression through LNs 6 - 9 that should work.
 

seitora

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So, not wanting to burn out on just reading straight Konosuba at work, I randomly picked another LN to read. So I read Volume 1 of The Greatest Demon Lord is Reborn as a Typical Nobody.

My opinion is it's a hot mess, and do not recommend. So the plot premise is of somebody who becomes the supreme ruler Demon Lord being overpowered and wishing for real friends, not just more enemies he's killed or people who become his underlings because of the power differential, so he reincarnates with his power deliberately scaled back for the new era. When he reincarnates, however, society has gotten weaker, so he's still overpowered.

Issues abound. The main character was the Demon Lord, who is treated as an out-and-out good guy who saved humanity from eldritch gods and just plain overpowered monsters like great dragons, too. Despite being a 'Demon Lord' of humanity, actual 'demons' in the story are all actual enemies of humanity who want to summon said above mentioned eldritch gods. Huh. So was the main character called the Demon Lord because it sounds cool, even if all demons were actually his enemies? Also, he joins the local Magic Academy at one point...then when he tries to hold back once he realises just how weak everyone is now, he still massively outperforms to the point the headmaster is falling over to get him to become a teacher instead. His childhood friend is an elf girl who is super naive to sex. His second friend is a succubus who misinterprets the protagonist's desire to make a hundred friends as a desire to have a harem of a hundred girls, and sets out to recruit girls for this desire. This is the worst kind of power harem fantasy.

Oh, and his parents realised he was the Demon Lord reincarnated once he started showing off his little bit of power. Not because of any prophecy or telltale Demon Lord powers, but because...he was born through an Immaculate Conception. Both his parents were gay and never consummated the marriage, so his mom couldn't have gotten pregnant. Seriously. And this is thrown away in a single paragraph blurb right at the end.

I feel like this was given a single proofread, and that was it. Numerous issues with capitalisation rules for having spoken dialogue, comma, and then finishing the line with non-dialogue.

Really, if stuff like this gets published, it makes me more and more optimistic that if I ever got off my lazy arse and wrote something, I could get published too :eek:
 

chronodekar

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You know, I think I've read that story. At least, read it to a certain point and then abandoned it due to the sheer stupidity being thrown about. It reminds of some visual novels which do not make logical sense i.e. in the early chapters, AAA happens to the protagonist due to BBB kind of events. But later in the story when BBB happens to someone else, its like no-one remembers that AAA is what is normally done. Instead, CCC happens and the plot moves forward.

I find that kind of story-telling, really hard to keep reading.

-chronodekar
 

seitora

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You know, I think I've read that story. At least, read it to a certain point and then abandoned it due to the sheer stupidity being thrown about. It reminds of some visual novels which do not make logical sense i.e. in the early chapters, AAA happens to the protagonist due to BBB kind of events. But later in the story when BBB happens to someone else, its like no-one remembers that AAA is what is normally done. Instead, CCC happens and the plot moves forward.

I find that kind of story-telling, really hard to keep reading.

-chronodekar
There were other trashy points. Like after the protagonist repels an initial invasion of demons, he gets invited to see the Queen. The Queen then solicits him for a marriage proposal IIRC, only to then basically go 'Just kidding'. In front of lots of nobility.

Anyways.

Read volume 1 of I've Been Killing Slimes for 300 Years and Maxed Out My Level

The anime did a fairly good job of adapting this. The main heroine, Azusa, dies of overwork at the age of 27 (in what is sadly a very real phenomenon in some countries, 'karoshi' being the term in Japan). She gets the chance to reincarnate in another world with magic, with basically no catch. There's no big bad evil demon overlord that she has to fight, no 'war is hell' going on in the background, nothing. Instead, she gets to reincarnate as an immortal witch who basically looks around 17 (both the LN and anime weirdly gloss over how she goes from being ethnically Japanese to your stereotypical European with long blonde hair and blue eyes, and just rolls with it), and gets to live as laid-back a life as she wants, sleeping in and doing almost nothing for 300 years except for gardening, reading, making potions, and killing 25 slimes a day every day for 300 years for money to buy goods in the local town.

300 years later, Azusa checks her adventurer card and finds out she's at Level 99. News spread despite her best efforts to keep it locked down, and then she starts to get a lot of attention as others visit her. Despite that, it stays mostly as a light-hearted slice-of-life isekai. I do kind of like the anime more. It gives Azusa more chances to break out and show off that she is, in fact, Level 99. While the manga does this as well, it doesn't really have as many moments.
 

chronodekar

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Read volume 1 of I've Been Killing Slimes for 300 Years and Maxed Out My Level
I've wanted to get into this series (the novels) for some time now. My problem is that there's no romance. It's just too slice-of-life. :( Like, why could the author not give her a nice boyfriend/husband for some fun waffy moments?

-chronodekar
 

seitora

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I've wanted to get into this series (the novels) for some time now. My problem is that there's no romance. It's just too slice-of-life. :( Like, why could the author not give her a nice boyfriend/husband for some fun waffy moments?

-chronodekar
I mean, her hooking up with a husband isn't really the point lol

Anyways, read Volume 1 of A Wild Last Boss Appeared!

The plot synopsis is...somewhat like Overlord. Character gets pulled into a game world as his in-game avatar. His in-game avatar is female, but there's been like...two or three paragraph blurbs total where the protagonist even mentions it, so not even sure why bothering at that point. The game he played had a 'create a story' function that allowed people to populate their characters with backstories, and since he was the #1 player in-game who took over all the countries, he was allowed to make his character's lore pretty overpowered, which carries over to when he gets incarnated in the game world. She's nicknamed as a 'wild last boss', aka a human player who is as powerful as the in-game last boss, hence the title. Right before he reincarnates, he decided to retire his character, so when he appears in the game world, she was supposed to be gone for 200 years. At which point s/he basically decides to go touring, only to have to dig humanity out of the hole it's been pushed into over the last 200 years without its strongest character.

It's a little lackluster so far in the first novel, but it was actually a fairly fun read, so I'll continue at least for a second novel.
 

seitora

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Wild Last Boss is great.
It goes places.
That's pretty good to hear! I'm cycling through some series and throwing out the stinkers (as you can see from previous posts), so nice to hear somebody else has read this and recs it.

(if you do read any more LNs in the future, make sure to post in this topic too :p)
 

seitora

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And overnight finished Volume 2 of A Wild Last Boss Appeared!

Going off the pacing so far, I imagine the next few novels would follow similar plot beats of Lufas meeting old hero buds who are still alive, finding and recruiting some of her 12 Zodiac Star monsters, and killing a few more of the big bad's minion septemvirate. Then there'll probably be a massive change to the massive status quo instead of just following this path straightforward.


I notice when it came to Dina, Lufas was able to realise what was wrong with her...but after defeating Dina, there's another moment where Lufas can tell she's overlooking something. I'm guessing that something would be that Dina was at the tower waiting for her, apparently aware ahead of time that Lufas had re-appeared and was a player incarnation.
 

MastaofBitches

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I only have up to Volume 6, both LN and Manga.
 

seitora

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Yeah. Now that I have money, I want to try moving away from pirating stuff as much (well, unless it's Activision-Blizzard content)
 
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