Akamatsuverse [Love Hina]Miscellaneous ideas topic.
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Blinks, Huh, I thought the ages were fairly well known.
There is a bit of a difference though between anime and manga. Per my copy of the U.S. edition of the manga, Volume 1 page 97, it lists names, ages, and room numbers at start of manga.
- Mitsune Konno 19 room 205
- Keitaro Urashima 19 landlords room (204 assumed)
- Naru Narusagawa 17 room 304
- Motoko Aoyama 15 room 302
- Kaolla Su 13 room 301
- Shinobu Maharea 12 room 201
On a side note it is amusing Kaolla has room 301, because that means the missle silo must go right through Shinobus room.
The below I do not think were listed in the actual manga offhand, but per one manga site the following ages are listed:
- Granny 65
- Seta 28
- Tsuruko 28
- Haruka 27
- Amalla 25
- Mutsume 21
- Kanako 17
- Nyamo 15
- Sara 9
Note, I never really believed Tsuruko was 28, more like 26, but that is mere opinion.
To me, the anime ages actually make a bit more sense for some of them. For example Naru being 18 makes more sense, since she is definitely fresh out of high school in cram schools. And Kaitaro being 20 makes more sense since he is now a 3rd time ronin. And to be honest, Granny seems older looking than 65.
There is a bit of a difference though between anime and manga. Per my copy of the U.S. edition of the manga, Volume 1 page 97, it lists names, ages, and room numbers at start of manga.
- Mitsune Konno 19 room 205
- Keitaro Urashima 19 landlords room (204 assumed)
- Naru Narusagawa 17 room 304
- Motoko Aoyama 15 room 302
- Kaolla Su 13 room 301
- Shinobu Maharea 12 room 201
On a side note it is amusing Kaolla has room 301, because that means the missle silo must go right through Shinobus room.
The below I do not think were listed in the actual manga offhand, but per one manga site the following ages are listed:
- Granny 65
- Seta 28
- Tsuruko 28
- Haruka 27
- Amalla 25
- Mutsume 21
- Kanako 17
- Nyamo 15
- Sara 9
Note, I never really believed Tsuruko was 28, more like 26, but that is mere opinion.
To me, the anime ages actually make a bit more sense for some of them. For example Naru being 18 makes more sense, since she is definitely fresh out of high school in cram schools. And Kaitaro being 20 makes more sense since he is now a 3rd time ronin. And to be honest, Granny seems older looking than 65.
Shrugs... I always assumed she was same to slightly older myself.
I've looked at a manga wikia page, two different anime manga news sites, and a manga fan page, and all say 21... but I did find an site for the anime stating she was 20... as was Keitaro in the anime.
FanFiction has these characters all over the map... I've seen Sara portrayed in mid teens. I've seen Tsuruko as 22 or 23. I've seen Motoko as 17. I've seen Keitaro at 18 (and one with him I think 13). Shrugs... we've had so many years of variant fan fiction thrust on us it is no wonder some of the original knowledge is vague. It does not help that the 3 versions muddy the waters so to speak, by changing all the details around. One such example is in canon Haruka is an aunt in manga and anime but a cousin in the visual novels.
I've looked at a manga wikia page, two different anime manga news sites, and a manga fan page, and all say 21... but I did find an site for the anime stating she was 20... as was Keitaro in the anime.
FanFiction has these characters all over the map... I've seen Sara portrayed in mid teens. I've seen Tsuruko as 22 or 23. I've seen Motoko as 17. I've seen Keitaro at 18 (and one with him I think 13). Shrugs... we've had so many years of variant fan fiction thrust on us it is no wonder some of the original knowledge is vague. It does not help that the 3 versions muddy the waters so to speak, by changing all the details around. One such example is in canon Haruka is an aunt in manga and anime but a cousin in the visual novels.
Something to consider about the ages of the characters is that not all of them are introduced at the same time. Going by the dates established at the beginning of the manga, these are the ages of the characters by October 30th, 1998:
Keitaro: 19
Naru :17
Motoko: 15
Kitsune: 19
Kaolla: 13
Shinobu: 12
Granny: 65
Seta: 27
Tsuruko: 27
Haruka: 27
Mutsum:i 20
Kanako: 14
Nyamo: 14
Sara: 9
Keitaro: 19
Naru :17
Motoko: 15
Kitsune: 19
Kaolla: 13
Shinobu: 12
Granny: 65
Seta: 27
Tsuruko: 27
Haruka: 27
Mutsum:i 20
Kanako: 14
Nyamo: 14
Sara: 9
You know, Kitsune is somethign of a tragic character in the series. She drinks seemingly heavily, she works odd jobs and freelance writing, seems more concerned with parting and having fun then being responsible at times, and doesn't seem to think much of the consequences. It's not until very late series she seems to settle down, becoming haruka 2.0, and leaves the dorm.
So what happened to her to cause this behavior?
I don't think it's grimdark angst, but something else. Like she honestly just doesn't know what to do with her life, so she does whatever. She seems successful enough as a writer to get sent out on trips though. Seemingly gives it up for the stability of the tea shop though. Maybe shes got her own sense of self doubt that holds her back, until somethign with Haruka changes that.
So lets run with that. Lets say shes got some sort of self doubt that prevents her from solidly committing to stuff. That's why despite her looks and flirtatious attitude, she didn't seem to have luck with boys in school. That same doubt caused her to ether fial to get into college, or perhaps, never actually attempt it. She resigned herself to do what she was good at, and didn't really try to expand beyond that. So she kills time by enjoying life's vices, or at least, the kinds you can buy in a store, and playing support for her friends instead of striving to be her own main character. She acts the trickster kitsune, instead of solidly sitting down and determining what is best for Mitsune.
So what happened to her to cause this behavior?
I don't think it's grimdark angst, but something else. Like she honestly just doesn't know what to do with her life, so she does whatever. She seems successful enough as a writer to get sent out on trips though. Seemingly gives it up for the stability of the tea shop though. Maybe shes got her own sense of self doubt that holds her back, until somethign with Haruka changes that.
So lets run with that. Lets say shes got some sort of self doubt that prevents her from solidly committing to stuff. That's why despite her looks and flirtatious attitude, she didn't seem to have luck with boys in school. That same doubt caused her to ether fial to get into college, or perhaps, never actually attempt it. She resigned herself to do what she was good at, and didn't really try to expand beyond that. So she kills time by enjoying life's vices, or at least, the kinds you can buy in a store, and playing support for her friends instead of striving to be her own main character. She acts the trickster kitsune, instead of solidly sitting down and determining what is best for Mitsune.
It's possible that Kitsune takes a "life's too short" attitude and that's why she spends so much time having fun.
You can suggest any number of reasons for this, a workaholic parent/grandparent or a friend died at young age.
As for her change of heart, well, maybe because despite his goofiness, Keitaro takes his responsibilities seriously. Haruka had feelings for Seta for a long time, so maybe she's planning to hook up with Keitaro in a while and the teashop proves that she's responsible enough for him?
You can suggest any number of reasons for this, a workaholic parent/grandparent or a friend died at young age.
As for her change of heart, well, maybe because despite his goofiness, Keitaro takes his responsibilities seriously. Haruka had feelings for Seta for a long time, so maybe she's planning to hook up with Keitaro in a while and the teashop proves that she's responsible enough for him?
Story Idea: Keitaro has very high magical potential... and his grandmother sends him to Mahora Academy, to teach [something] and learn magic both. (Technically not quite a crossover, Mahou Sensei Negima is a part of the same 'verse.)
Too bad this is his first contact with magic. His immense endurance (can take Naru punches unharmed) is the only thing going for him. Can replace or help Negi, it depends on the author. Whether other Love Hina characters appear is also up in the air.
Too bad this is his first contact with magic. His immense endurance (can take Naru punches unharmed) is the only thing going for him. Can replace or help Negi, it depends on the author. Whether other Love Hina characters appear is also up in the air.
Here's yet another crossover idea. Bet you're all tired of them.
Let's go with Granny Hina being Keitaro's paternal Grandmother for this idea.
What if Keitaro's maternal Grandfather was Rick from Rick and Morty?
Granny Hina giving the Hinata to Keitaro and making sure it was filled with women was an attempt to get Keitaro out of Rick's clutches, who mostly treated Keitaro something along the lines that he does Morty in the show. And yet, Keitaro still preferred Rick over Hina.
Rick and Hina don't get along because because Hina sees Rick as a drunken pathetic loser who fails at anything important and Rick thinks Hina's a stuck-up meddling bitch who needs to get laid.
Let's go with Granny Hina being Keitaro's paternal Grandmother for this idea.
What if Keitaro's maternal Grandfather was Rick from Rick and Morty?
Granny Hina giving the Hinata to Keitaro and making sure it was filled with women was an attempt to get Keitaro out of Rick's clutches, who mostly treated Keitaro something along the lines that he does Morty in the show. And yet, Keitaro still preferred Rick over Hina.
Rick and Hina don't get along because because Hina sees Rick as a drunken pathetic loser who fails at anything important and Rick thinks Hina's a stuck-up meddling bitch who needs to get laid.
Rick Sanchez being Keitaro's grandfather could explain his invulnerability.
I mean, Rick might be a monster at times, but he doesn't want grandson to be hurt.
I like the idea, though I think it could be funnier if it wasn't Rick Sanchez, but someone very similar and with one or two other traits. Depending on how evil you want to be, you could have a blend of father and grandfather figures: Rick, Happousai, Gendo Ikari, Andrei Kalinin, Genma Saotome.
Just something that could prove entertaining in the right hands.
I mean, Rick might be a monster at times, but he doesn't want grandson to be hurt.
I like the idea, though I think it could be funnier if it wasn't Rick Sanchez, but someone very similar and with one or two other traits. Depending on how evil you want to be, you could have a blend of father and grandfather figures: Rick, Happousai, Gendo Ikari, Andrei Kalinin, Genma Saotome.
Just something that could prove entertaining in the right hands.
Happosai is canonically unable to bring himself to hurt children, even in the manga. Then again, his kind of help towards children can be very questionable, but he's actually far better than Genma (who would steal food from his own child and submit him to actual physical torture) in that regard.
Concerning Keitaro teaching 3-A, eh. Without Negi's interest on Kyoto, he'll never see a reason to insist the school trip to take place there, so no Kyoto arc, Setsuna probably never comes close to Konoka. Eva has no reason to reveal herself as a vampire, so Keitaro never gets any training from her and, if this role replaces his one as Hinata's caretaker instead of taking place after it, he doesn't even get training from Seta. Takahata is probably too busy to teach him anything in the way of fighting, and Takahata is no mage anyway, so he probably falls under the tutelage of Yuuna's father or Gandolfini (the dark skinned mage who worked with Takane and Mei) instead.
Knowing Keitaro's proclivity for stripping accidents and the fact he wouldn't be rooming with 3-A's students like Negi, he would probably end up with Takane as his Naru. That assuming he doesn't have the Toudai obsession anymore; if he had it I see him just trying to get out of Mahora and into Toudai, which only pulls him further away from the Negima cast whether he succeeds or not.
Does Chao still exist? No Negi in Mahora probably implies she never comes into being in the first place. If she still exists, Keitaro is no match for her and no way he's formed an Ala Alba to stop her, so she successfully reveals magic to the world. Being a complete newbie, Keitaro is probably spared being turned into an ermine, but his tutors in magic, Takane included, probably are, and unless her punishment is only temporary, that just drives him further down. No Ala Alba means no trip to Mundus Magicus, and while the mages of Earth are too busy with the aftermath of Chao, or even if they're just otherwise oblivious to Fate in the Chao-less alternative, Fate and Cosmo Entelecheia succeed without any real opposition and seal the Magical World into suspended animation. On the plus side that means the Mars versus Earth war never comes to pass in the future.
Concerning Keitaro teaching 3-A, eh. Without Negi's interest on Kyoto, he'll never see a reason to insist the school trip to take place there, so no Kyoto arc, Setsuna probably never comes close to Konoka. Eva has no reason to reveal herself as a vampire, so Keitaro never gets any training from her and, if this role replaces his one as Hinata's caretaker instead of taking place after it, he doesn't even get training from Seta. Takahata is probably too busy to teach him anything in the way of fighting, and Takahata is no mage anyway, so he probably falls under the tutelage of Yuuna's father or Gandolfini (the dark skinned mage who worked with Takane and Mei) instead.
Knowing Keitaro's proclivity for stripping accidents and the fact he wouldn't be rooming with 3-A's students like Negi, he would probably end up with Takane as his Naru. That assuming he doesn't have the Toudai obsession anymore; if he had it I see him just trying to get out of Mahora and into Toudai, which only pulls him further away from the Negima cast whether he succeeds or not.
Does Chao still exist? No Negi in Mahora probably implies she never comes into being in the first place. If she still exists, Keitaro is no match for her and no way he's formed an Ala Alba to stop her, so she successfully reveals magic to the world. Being a complete newbie, Keitaro is probably spared being turned into an ermine, but his tutors in magic, Takane included, probably are, and unless her punishment is only temporary, that just drives him further down. No Ala Alba means no trip to Mundus Magicus, and while the mages of Earth are too busy with the aftermath of Chao, or even if they're just otherwise oblivious to Fate in the Chao-less alternative, Fate and Cosmo Entelecheia succeed without any real opposition and seal the Magical World into suspended animation. On the plus side that means the Mars versus Earth war never comes to pass in the future.
I'd think that the dean would push for Kyoto anyway - remember the letter? As for Eva, as soon as there is an opportunity to escape, no matter what it is, she'd go for it head-first.
He might have met Motoko sometime in the past, so he also knows Eishun through her (?)
As for being trained, I'm sure he'd find someone. (Maybe his grandmother would send someone? I don't remember much about the manipulative old woman, but if Keitaro showed promise in magic, Grandma Hina would do something, right?)
As for the point in time, probably as soon as he graduates high school, so one year before the start of LH, maybe even earlier. (The series will obviously migrate to a few years later (Negima timeline) while keeping the ages of the characters.)
As for Negi, maybe he'd be around somehow, but not in Mahora - at least, not as a teacher. Chao? Maybe, maybe not. Probably with differing goals to canon, if there.
The promise? That can be resolved by the old woman having convinced him that the promised girl is in Mahora and that he will be able to improve his knowledge&grades in... miraculous ways (cue the Book of Melchizedek, or whatever it's called. That arc would be even more hilarious).
(Considering how bad his grades were in canon, what would he teach? Well, here, he could be really good at foreign languages, especially English (and Latin). So, English, like Negi in canon Negima.)
He might have met Motoko sometime in the past, so he also knows Eishun through her (?)
As for being trained, I'm sure he'd find someone. (Maybe his grandmother would send someone? I don't remember much about the manipulative old woman, but if Keitaro showed promise in magic, Grandma Hina would do something, right?)
As for the point in time, probably as soon as he graduates high school, so one year before the start of LH, maybe even earlier. (The series will obviously migrate to a few years later (Negima timeline) while keeping the ages of the characters.)
As for Negi, maybe he'd be around somehow, but not in Mahora - at least, not as a teacher. Chao? Maybe, maybe not. Probably with differing goals to canon, if there.
The promise? That can be resolved by the old woman having convinced him that the promised girl is in Mahora and that he will be able to improve his knowledge&grades in... miraculous ways (cue the Book of Melchizedek, or whatever it's called. That arc would be even more hilarious).
(Considering how bad his grades were in canon, what would he teach? Well, here, he could be really good at foreign languages, especially English (and Latin). So, English, like Negi in canon Negima.)
IIRC, the impression I got was the Headmaster only sent the letter (which was useless on itself anyway) after Negi convinced him to allow the trip to Kyoto-- Konoemon was going to cancel it before Negi insisted.
How would Keitaro offer any sort of escape chance to Eva? Eva wanted Negi originally because he was the Thousand Master's son and drinking his blood might release her. Keitaro isn't related to Nagi Springfield, so going after him wouldn't help Evangeline at all.
As for what Keitaro could teach, he was fairly good at drawing, especially young women. Maybe he could be Takahata's assistant at Arts teaching? That should put him fairly close to Asuna, who was in the Art Club even if we only got to actually see her there once.
How would Keitaro offer any sort of escape chance to Eva? Eva wanted Negi originally because he was the Thousand Master's son and drinking his blood might release her. Keitaro isn't related to Nagi Springfield, so going after him wouldn't help Evangeline at all.
As for what Keitaro could teach, he was fairly good at drawing, especially young women. Maybe he could be Takahata's assistant at Arts teaching? That should put him fairly close to Asuna, who was in the Art Club even if we only got to actually see her there once.
1)I don't remember, so I'll take your word on it. So, one just has to do something with Eishun to keep canon on track, right? As in, Keitaro knows him through Motoko (meets her before LH timeline), and wants... something (?) with him.
2)I'm not saying it would be Keitaro himself - after all, she discovered a complete power outage temporarily freed her in canon. What would she do if she thought up a way to use that, other than draining Negi? (Which sounds like a long shot anyway, in canon Negima, IIRC.)
2)I'm not saying it would be Keitaro himself - after all, she discovered a complete power outage temporarily freed her in canon. What would she do if she thought up a way to use that, other than draining Negi? (Which sounds like a long shot anyway, in canon Negima, IIRC.)
On the subject of Adonis!Keitaro, IE the idea that with his glasses off, hes actually an incredible specimen of male beauty, the burn up blade arc would be hilarious.
If the penalty for failure is Keitaro has to marry her, I can see her spending three days trying to throw the fight, only for Keitaro, pinnacle of masculinity that he is, to keep pulling her out of the fire so to speak and keeping her in the fight.
If the penalty for failure is Keitaro has to marry her, I can see her spending three days trying to throw the fight, only for Keitaro, pinnacle of masculinity that he is, to keep pulling her out of the fire so to speak and keeping her in the fight.