Luke's new Master

[The Eromancer]

Alright, you all will have to blame Sleepy Nin and his Sith!Kenobi idea for this.

Just a quick question to think about before this gets off, how does one activate a Holocron?

You must be force-sensitive. That's easy enough BUT then again how many people are actually force-sensitive?

Tatooine has a rich history - most of it is burried under the sand, but it DOES have history. With that in mind I started thinking to myself, What if Luke, while out goofing off for the day just happened to find some OLD ship? I mean this thing is ancient, there isn't any rust (cause there's no water) but he'd have never found the thing in the first place if that storm last hadn't come an uncovered some of it.

That's right ladies and gentlemen, Luke just found the Ebon Hawk.

But more importantly, he also found three very particular devices as well. One) a Holocron and its a big one; two) a pair of droids, a very ancient pair of droids who, went activated, both have very unusual personalities.

"Inquirey: Meatbag, are you may new master?"

Luke stared at the droid a little wiered out by the first words out of its voice box, not knowing how respond to that.

"Ominous warning: if not, then I hope you've enjoyed your last moments, Meatbag."

The Holocron would of course be one from Revan himself, not one from his days as a Jedi, and not one from his days as a Sith. No, its much better than that, it one from his days after he got his memories back.


Now please imagine how this Luke would turn out.

Oh and who or where else he could find in a Mos Isley bargin bin that turns out to be some anceitn master of the Jedi/Sith. Ulric Quel Droma? Naga Sadow? Ranma Saotome?

 

[Prince Charon]

Maybe Aalya Secura survives the Clonetroopers betrayal, and introduces him to the Sticky Side of the Force? :drool:

 

[SotF]

Threepio meeting HK, that would be one of the coolest meetings in Star Wars...

Although, canonically, HK wouldn't be on the Ebon Hawk at that point (He's on Mustafar), but it could be interesting to have both happen.

Luke repairing the Ebon Hawk with T3, and tracking down HK via a transponder built into everyones favorite sociopathic droid.

Mix Aayla into the mix at some point and have him pull a rescue when she is discovered. Luke with Revan style training is someone I'd lay even odds on even against an entire planet of Stormies, even if they have Inquisition backup (with or without Vader there as well).

Luke building up a collection of companions in the manner that both Revan and the Exile had. You could even bring the main cast in at other points. Han before he got the Falcon along with Chewie. Hell, he may end up with Lando tagging along.

Perhaps at some later point he returns to Tattooine (Perhaps mentioning something about Ol' Ben which Aayla recognizes as Obi-Wan) which ends up getting Obi-Wan, Threepio, and Artoo.

I'd love to see Kenobi reacting to encountering a Luke who has reached the point where he is more than qualified to be a Jedi Knight.

Hell, if Ahsoka survived the Clone Wars and the Dark Times, she could end up as the third "typed" Jedi to have a Consular, Sentinel, and Guardian other than Luke.

On the Death Star it could end up a Vader Vs. HK fight after the droid bores with shooting Stormtroopers...

 

[Prince Charon]

@SotF: I'd like to read that, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

 

[Mighty Bob]

@SotF: I'd like to read that, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

I second the motion. And considering how (relatively) slowly tech seems to develop in the SWverse I wonder just how hard it would be to bring T-3 and HK (and I suppose the Ebon Hawk as well) up to speed. Having a brain fart at the moment: does Luke share, to any extent, Anakin's affinity for gadgets and technology or did he just get the flying skills? Cause I imagine that'd make things much easier for him to get stuff up and running again.

 

[Belgarion213]

Well its been a while since I read any of the SW EU or watched the movies (need to rectify that) but IIRC Luke was mentioned to be pretty good wiht a hydrospanner. He grew up on a farm repairing and maintaining both the droids and the moisture Evaporators so he knows SOME stuff. However I dont think it was ever really looked into though Fannon SW assumes that he is pretty good with technolagy.

 

[Waruiko]

Didn't Luke maintain the security systems on Yavin 4 after he turned it into a school? I can't remember clearly.

 

[SotF]

@SotF: I'd like to read that, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

I second the motion. And considering how (relatively) slowly tech seems to develop in the SWverse I wonder just how hard it would be to bring T-3 and HK (and I suppose the Ebon Hawk as well) up to speed. Having a brain fart at the moment: does Luke share, to any extent, Anakin's affinity for gadgets and technology or did he just get the flying skills? Cause I imagine that'd make things much easier for him to get stuff up and running again.

Well, he knows a lot about them. He maintained his and the family airspeeders. He also knew how to do several other things. Hell, he knew how to work on his arm to run it on a single power source while using the other to rework an electronic door. He'd also have T3's help once he had the astromech running.

As for the Tech, the Ebon Hawk would be ancient, but should be easily updatable to the "current" tech with enough effort and enough supplies. Spare parts for it could be hard to acquire though.

As it is HK (His appearance in Galaxies is supposedly canon) who managed to nearly wipe the floor with just about everything, plus the fact he could previously fight Jedi and Sith with a high rate of success, I'd say he's capable of keeping up.

 

[mandalorianjedi]

Capable of keeping up?

HK-47 was designed by Revan specifically for killing Jedi/Sith.

May people speculate that Atton's irrational hatred of droids comes from HK-47. After all, in Revan's forces Atton was an assassin whose specialty wasthe capture and killing of Jedi. To hear that a droid can do everything you can, and perhaps even better than you, would instill a modicum of hatred in them.

This is canonically supported in the game due to the fact that Atton and HK-47's strategies for taking out Jedi are similiar if not the same.

Also, while Luke does have skill in droid/speeder repair, that skill wasn't cultivated until AFTER he left Tattooine. All he had ever worked on is the family speeder and moisture vaporators. Most of the major droid maintenance for the Lars Homestead was done by techs in Anchorhead.

 

[SotF]

Capable of keeping up?

HK-47 was designed by Revan specifically for killing Jedi/Sith.

May people speculate that Atton's irrational hatred of droids comes from HK-47. After all, in Revan's forces Atton was an assassin whose specialty wasthe capture and killing of Jedi. To hear that a droid can do everything you can, and perhaps even better than you, would instill a modicum of hatred in them.

This is canonically supported in the game due to the fact that Atton and HK-47's strategies for taking out Jedi are similiar if not the same.

Also, while Luke does have skill in droid/speeder repair, that skill wasn't cultivated until AFTER he left Tattooine. All he had ever worked on is the family speeder and moisture vaporators. Most of the major droid maintenance for the Lars Homestead was done by techs in Anchorhead.

Actually, the only thing he isn't capable of doing is a memory wipe which supposedly requires special equipment to do it correctly. He maintained and updated his Skyhopper and improved it enough to outperform most of the others (Even being ableto repair the damage taking when he managed to "Thread the Needle")

Later on his skills improved incredibly with access to other techs, and managed to do things such as hotwire a security door with his cyborg arm.

 

[mandalorianjedi]

That's what I meant by cultivating his skills. How bad ass is that to hotwire a door with a prosthetic.

 

[Jetflash]

I'm interested. Never played KotOR, or KotOR 2, but this should be interesting.

 

[praeceps11]

I'm also very interested in this, though I have never read the AU books.

 

[Jetflash]

I'm also very interested in this, though I have never read the AU books.

It's not that they're AU, it's that their part of the Extended Universe, which is canon; the books don't go on without Lucas's approval of story lines.

 

[foesjoe]

It's not that they're AU, it's that their part of the Extended Universe, which is canon; the books don't go on without Lucas's approval of story lines.

I'd prefer it if everything after Thrawn's trilogy was considered AU. What the others did with the SW characters pisses me off!!!!!!

On topic: Wouldn't it be kind of a problem if Luke received Force-training? I thought the Emperor and Vader would be able to sense him once he got stronger in the Force.

Heh, but I can just imagine the four droids meeting. C3PO, HK-47, T3-M4 and R2-D2 are all pretty unique characters, I think it would be hilarious.

You'd just have to be careful not to make things too easy for Luke. Maybe Obi-Wan finds out about the holocron and what Luke learned from it and it's too close to the Sith teachings for his liking, prompting him to try to 'turn' Luke and fail, resulting in the both of them fighting. Obi-Wan has to flee in the end and he seeks out Leia to train her. This would allow you to include lots of Obi angst, something that seems to be pretty popular in the SW fandom...

Luke would then have to fight off both the Rebellion and the Empire.

You could aso include Kyle Katarn, Jane Ors and Mara Jade in Luke's 'party'. IIRC Kyle is working as a mercenary/smuggler at that time and isn't really a Rebel, and Palpatine could send Mara after Luke similar to how Visas gets sent after you in KotoR2.

 

[SotF]

If Ulic Qel'Droma can teach Anakin, Revan could still be around to aid in guiding Luke, or just being amused by Luke's actions anyway.

Vos should still be around, and could make an interesting companion.

Obi-Wan trying to "save" Luke in this would be rather amusing, and imagine what Leia's reaction would be if she learns the truth of her heritage then...

For the EU, it becomes extremely hard to pick and choose because they've become entwined (Hell, the Vong make an appearance in KotOR)

 

[foesjoe]

For the EU, it becomes extremely hard to pick and choose because they've become entwined (Hell, the Vong make an appearance in KotOR)

wut?

 

[SotF]

For the EU, it becomes extremely hard to pick and choose because they've become entwined (Hell, the Vong make an appearance in KotOR)

wut?

Canderous gives a description of a Coral Skipper during one of his stories. It ends by him saying it left the galaxy.

Other ties KotOR has is things like the Vector plotline that crosses all of the eras in the comics including KotOR and Legacy.

You also have dozens of ties to the Tales of the Jedi stuff and even later ones (Hell there are sections of Koriban pretty much copied from Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy in TSL.

 

[mandalorianjedi]

The Vong have been tied into nearly everything in the Star Wars Universe. Hell, Obi-Wan and Anakin nearly encountered them when they went searching for Veregre during the Clone Wars. Palpatine knew of them long before the Galactic Rebellion and was taking steps to defend his Empire from them when the Rebel Alliance was still in its' early stages of development.

Not to mention when Mace Windu and Yoda mention the Sith "Rule of Two", that was started by Darth Revan, but first implimented centuries later by Darth Bane because of the teachings from Revan's Sith Holocron.

I personally don't mind the EU because of how well everything ties in. Sure sometimes things have to be retconned, but every author has brought a little something to the Star Wars Universe in a way that it has completely transcended the original movies.

If you want to do a good Star Wars AU, it's best to take Star Wars as a whole and deviate from there.

 

[ttestagr]

The Vong have been tied into nearly everything in the Star Wars Universe. Hell, Obi-Wan and Anakin nearly encountered them when they went searching for Veregre during the Clone Wars. Palpatine knew of them long before the Galactic Rebellion and was taking steps to defend his Empire from them when the Rebel Alliance was still in its' early stages of development.

Not to mention when Mace Windu and Yoda mention the Sith "Rule of Two", that was started by Darth Revan, but first implimented centuries later by Darth Bane because of the teachings from Revan's Sith Holocron.

I personally don't mind the EU because of how well everything ties in. Sure sometimes things have to be retconned, but every author has brought a little something to the Star Wars Universe in a way that it has completely transcended the original movies.

If you want to do a good Star Wars AU, it's best to take Star Wars as a whole and deviate from there.

The Vong may have been mentioned in quite a few things, but you didn't mention that they are full of suck. That's an important detail. Shitty Gary-Stu villains are shitty.

:huh!:

Because things tie together, you don't mind bad prose, characterization, plot, and setting? Starting with Kevin J. Anderson (who turns all he touches to shit), almost none of the EU authors properly characterized the Star Wars cast, set up a good plotline for their stories, gave a compelling setting, or particularly wrote well. Except for Rogue Squadron books, all of the EU after Zahn's books were quite a bit below average. Hell, Zahn made fun of how bad they were in his duology.

 

[foesjoe]

The Vong may have been mentioned in quite a few things, but you didn't mention that they are full of suck. That's an important detail. Shitty Gary-Stu villains are shitty.

:huh!:

Because things tie together, you don't mind bad prose, characterization, plot, and setting? Starting with Kevin J. Anderson (who turns all he touches to shit), almost none of the EU authors properly characterized the Star Wars cast, set up a good plotline for their stories, gave a compelling setting, or particularly wrote well. Except for Rogue Squadron books, all of the EU after Zahn's books were quite a bit below average. Hell, Zahn made fun of how bad they were in his duology.

QFT

Anyone have any plans of picking this idea up?

 

[trevelyan1983]

ttestagr nailed it. Stackpole and Zahn produced the only decent books I ever came across in the EU.

 

[SotF]

ttestagr nailed it. Stackpole and Zahn produced the only decent books I ever came across in the EU.

The Young/Junior Jedi Knights series' were pretty interesting as well

 

[Jetflash]

ttestagr nailed it. Stackpole and Zahn produced the only decent books I ever came across in the EU.

I actually liked Alliston's books just as much as Stackpole's, but other than that, yeah, you're right.

 

[Lu_2007]

Sorry to butt in the thread but I would like to ask a question that has been buggin me for a while since I first heard of Revan (I still have to play to KOTOR something that I have to correct soon when I have enough time) but who is more powerful Luke (taking in count the EU) or Revan?

I know, I know... the question is silly as hell and proper of a fanboy but still, can you guys help me with this? Can you point me to a good place for intel on Revan and the games where he/she appears?

Thanks