Magic and Technology of MGLN
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It's called hax because having a single MCA is reportedly rare as it is. That someone was born with the natural disposition to convert mana into two different types of energy, and has developed the skill enough to where they can do both at the same time in a combat situation is likely a one in a million chance.
I may be mistaken but i don't consider "rare" and "hax" to be the same thing, even if they end up related to each other most of the time. Rio have a rare ability but is not one that gives her the power to break the setting like say the EC virus, Relic empowered mages like the Sankt Kaiser or the aformentioned Book of Darkness with its full powerset.
That being said i think we could consider Sieglinde being sort of OP at least by ViVid standards as she seems to be on a different league as the rest (the attack that is Miura's secret finishing strike is used by Sieg as a regular move). I'm unsure about calling hax on her because what she inherited wasn't really "power" per se but knowledge that allowed her to develope as top level fighter far quickier than most mages her age. Still i would understad if some people want to call hax on that.
That being said i think we could consider Sieglinde being sort of OP at least by ViVid standards as she seems to be on a different league as the rest (the attack that is Miura's secret finishing strike is used by Sieg as a regular move). I'm unsure about calling hax on her because what she inherited wasn't really "power" per se but knowledge that allowed her to develope as top level fighter far quickier than most mages her age. Still i would understad if some people want to call hax on that.
well it said they were famous for their martial arts, so if Sieg's line is scholarly they may have been like vivio half warrior, half book worm. However Sieg's situation is probably a good reason certain technologies are banned.
The thing I see about sieg's ability is the ease of learning a variety of techniques both rare and common. For instance the cyborg project Jail was put in charge of was to not only give powerful fighters but cyborgs with unique abilities, sieg easily gains that knowledge even if she has to train with it to gain control. I guess it is similar to the tome of the night sky's original function. Then again Sieg's inheritance of her ancestors is more than just knowledge but experience as well.
Sieg being OP, well keep in mind that half the main characters have been in Ariel combat so Sieg is probably more powerful that Subaru and Teana when they joined riot 6.
Well anyway in the coming up chapters of VIvid we see Vivio possibly showing off her search magic.
The thing I see about sieg's ability is the ease of learning a variety of techniques both rare and common. For instance the cyborg project Jail was put in charge of was to not only give powerful fighters but cyborgs with unique abilities, sieg easily gains that knowledge even if she has to train with it to gain control. I guess it is similar to the tome of the night sky's original function. Then again Sieg's inheritance of her ancestors is more than just knowledge but experience as well.
Sieg being OP, well keep in mind that half the main characters have been in Ariel combat so Sieg is probably more powerful that Subaru and Teana when they joined riot 6.
Well anyway in the coming up chapters of VIvid we see Vivio possibly showing off her search magic.
The Jeremiahs were also nomadic, so it would make sense that they would have needed knowledge to defend themselves. Olivie learned some of her close combat skills from Wilfried, the Jeremiah that also made her arms.
I would guess that they are like the Scryas (from our limited knowledge of them anyway), scholarly types that have the skills of defending themselves from the dangers associated with their clans.
I would guess that they are like the Scryas (from our limited knowledge of them anyway), scholarly types that have the skills of defending themselves from the dangers associated with their clans.
Actually in that case it was because Subaru is a cyborg. This is said in the striker manga. Also I suspect it is intelligent devices that are able to act this way. Also in season 1 when Nanoha was knocked out Rasing Heart did nothing to keep her from hitting the floor.
Though In force it is shown that Raising heart is capable of utilizing the fortress. Also I believe someone had an auto sheild put up so it may be possible.
The bottom line is the device can still act if the power is mechanically produced, or if programmed with a specific spell like shields.
Though In force it is shown that Raising heart is capable of utilizing the fortress. Also I believe someone had an auto sheild put up so it may be possible.
The bottom line is the device can still act if the power is mechanically produced, or if programmed with a specific spell like shields.
Intelligent Devices have been shown to work independent of the owners before.
S1 - Raising Heart gave up a Jewel Seed without Nanoha surrendering to save Nanoha from more pain.
ViVid - Rio's device activated when not near her (though why no other device never did that before I don't know)
And, no, Gx Hero, Mach Calibur took control of Subaru. After all, there was the whole "just as rehearsed" speech from MC.
S1 - Raising Heart gave up a Jewel Seed without Nanoha surrendering to save Nanoha from more pain.
ViVid - Rio's device activated when not near her (though why no other device never did that before I don't know)
And, no, Gx Hero, Mach Calibur took control of Subaru. After all, there was the whole "just as rehearsed" speech from MC.
In fact, Unison Devices are the Belkan answer to Intelligent Devices, but taken to extremes.
Which is why, instead of not listening to the master or doing things without the master's consent, Unison Devices can overwhelm the user, otherwise known as Unison Crisis and, instead of taking a form similar to the user, the combined form is closer to the device in looks.
Which is why, instead of not listening to the master or doing things without the master's consent, Unison Devices can overwhelm the user, otherwise known as Unison Crisis and, instead of taking a form similar to the user, the combined form is closer to the device in looks.
You know Intelligent Device does not automatically Mid style, the could have been originally created by another civilization at war with Belka, or even prior to that period, and later integrated in the Midchildan culture.
And by reading around for infos I always got the impression that the boom of the Mid style started after the end of the unification wars.
And by reading around for infos I always got the impression that the boom of the Mid style started after the end of the unification wars.
Probaly right since their was according to Chrono rivalry between ancient belkan and mid childa styles. Also you failed to point out the wolkienritter's intelligence devices which are ancient Belkan. Also Apparently according to the sound stage yu can't just pick up a device and do what ever style you want. Most modern devices probably can use modern belkan or mid since it is common, but if you use some other style you won't be able to use it. Poor Hayate broke six devices since it couldn't handle her using both Mid and ancient Belkan magic, something about accuracy to power or something.
She broke them because they couldn't handle the insane power output she has. Given that she assimilated a lost logia, it's to be expected. I guess it also has something to do with Hayate not being able to control her power very well, so they must have had great difficulty fashioning a device that can help her with output control.
I was intrigued by this line by Yuuno from A's (episode 3) about the Belkan magic system:
It strikes me as strange that there exists Ancient Belkan magic whereas there is no Ancient Mid-Childan magic. Also, Mid-childan magic seems to be relatively unchanged over the course of history, until the introduction of the cartridge system.
Any thoughts?
It strikes me as strange that there exists Ancient Belkan magic whereas there is no Ancient Mid-Childan magic. Also, Mid-childan magic seems to be relatively unchanged over the course of history, until the introduction of the cartridge system.
Any thoughts?