Harry Potter Magical Time Loops

seitora

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Haha, that's awesome, you're awesome. Love it.

I guess Lily's been around for at least a few Loops already to get in on the pranking fun by now (Snape as well)/
 

WarGiver

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I wanted to do that one for a long time now. Just was unable to get it good enough.
 
A dark haired lanky lad was walking down one of the many corridors of the school of wizardry when a familiar voice reached his
ear.
"Harry?" A certain bookworm of a girl called out in a tone voice that would freeze any male in place and leave them worrying instantly about the sanctity of their family jewels.

"Yes Hermione?" he responded hesitantly...

"Why is there another prank war happening in the grand hall? Have you been collecting Fred and George again? Don't you remember the hell we went through when that loop ended from their prank war?!" Hermione lectured Harry with a stern voice, her voice getting progressing louder as she spoke

"Another Prank war?" two voices spoke up behind them at the same time, interrupting her lecture and catching them both her and harry by surprise.

"So Hermione, and little harry-kins," "you two are lopping was well?" the Two red headed identical twins said to them, each finishing off each other sentences with a face splitting grin.

Harry face-palmed at this revelation while sporting a small smile, while Hermione became sickly pale at their words, and Ron, who somewhere in the school kitchens oblivious to what was happening, suddenly lost his insatiable appetite for reasons he has yet to know.

The loops would never be the same again....


*a sequel to the last loop i wrote. And the hell they are talking about is the same hell ranma hates.
 

DhampyrX2

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seitora said:
Haha, that's awesome, you're awesome. Love it.

I guess Lily's been around for at least a few Loops already to get in on the pranking fun by now (Snape as well)/
Earlier loops established that Snape loops himself fairly often, and has been kind of a drinking buddy of Harry's when he does so. He also allowed Harry to off him without resistance for his first 100 loops as a kind of odd Snape-logic penance, which Lily was NOT thrilled with as it helped Harry become something of a sociopath like most other loop anchors. If she has looped enough now to go with the flow I actually feel bad for Harry.

Personally, I would look for it to be people like Jiraiya and Setsuna (also established drinking buddies of Snape's) under an illusion to screw with him if I were Harry. That would make the trauma of learning it really is James and Lily all the sweeter.
 

DhampyrX2

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Meh, Snape was an unlikable bastard that never should or would have become a teacher if not for Dumbledore and Voldemort's respective plans. IMHO he made up for a lot of his bitchiness toward Harry with the way he ran interference to keep Light kids in detentions away from the Death Eaters in Hogwarts during Deathly Hollows. Put him somewhere that would have him among intellectual equals and away from two of his childhood enemies (one of which in Black was just as bad as Snape with the exception of having some charisma to offset his nastier personality traits), the child of another enemy who was a living reminder of how he ruined the only friendship and positive relationship he ever had with Lily in the form of Harry, and take him away from being stuck in the horrific role of double agent spying on a man that was as stereotypically evil as they come and he wouldn't have been nearly so bad. Sometimes environment counts for more than we give it credit for.
 

WarGiver

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In my opinion Snape was almost as much a victim as Harry in the entire mess. I could state my reasons but Dhampyr had covered the majority of them. Ultimately Snape was just in a bad situation that while originated in a bad decision by going along with Voldie at first, when the truth of the situation hit him that people he cared about would be harmed he did all he could to right that wrong. Do remember that even Harry concidered Snape to be a Hero and on par with Dumbledore as he named his first child after both.
 

alucard964

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was snape worried about all the potters or just lily? if it was just lily then he was more than happy to let james and harry die. And as for the naming of his first born after both of them just means the brainwashing was complete.
 

DhampyrX2

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He was worried about Lily. So much so that IIRC he begged Voldemort of all people to spare her when he realized what the prophecy meant and that Voldemort would target the Potters. Which takes some kind of desperation given his Tommy's attitude and track record with both those that oppose him and his subordinates. Then again, with the possible exception of his mother, Lily seemed to have been the only positive thing that ever existed in Snape's life. Happy well adjusted people don't run off to join terrorist organizations for kicks as a rule.

In many ways Voldemort, Snape, and Harry were cut from the same initial cloth with three different ultimate results. One could almost argue that Dumbledore was perfecting his formula to mold his ideal wizard from the sidelines in each generation. It also goes hand in hand with my theory that, with the exception of Dumbledore's generation, it seemed to be that it was the half-bloods and muggleborn witches and wizards that demonstrated the most talent in each generation. Tom Riddle was a genius that thrived in the fields of magic no matter how evil he became. Snape was shown to be a prodigy in Potions, DADA, and was said to know more curses than the average seventh year student at the age of ELEVEN. Harry, well, his power and potential needs no further explanation. And ironically, how they individually connected with an intelligent muggleborn witch of their respective generations shadowed the path each would take. Tom killed Myrtle. Snape alienated Lily and regretted his mistakes for the rest of a very miserable life. Harry befriended and did not piss off Hermione. Dark-Grey-White. Like you were washing the same soiled towel until it came clean.
 

Amberion

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Not sure I would compare them like that. Both Snape and Voldemort had sever personality disorder. Snape had no trouble at all to give Voldemort a baby to kill, it was just when it effected himself that he cared. I would think Voldemort is the same, but with more sadistic personality. And while the environment helped it along, I think it was more that they where born with a predisposition to it, while Harry was not.

As for muggleborns/halfbloods, wasn't Snape jealous of the Marauders for being better at DADA then him?
 

DhampyrX2

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Amberion said:
Not sure I would compare them like that. Both Snape and Voldemort had sever personality disorder. Snape had no trouble at all to give Voldemort a baby to kill, it was just when it effected himself that he cared. I would think Voldemort is the same, but with more sadistic personality. And while the environment helped it along, I think it was more that they where born with a predisposition to it, while Harry was not.

As for muggleborns/halfbloods, wasn't Snape jealous of the Marauders for being better at DADA then him?
That's kind of the point of the progression. Voldemort didn't care about anyone but himself and could not grow as a person. Snape only cared about Lily which did offer him a wake-up call about what he was doing and a form of redemption in the end, but ruined his life leading up to it. Harry developed actual friendships and cared about people and got his happily ever after. All three came from what appeared to be broken/abusive environments but each generation got better at dealing with that trauma and rising above it. And all three were remarkable powerful half-bloods.

As for academic rivalries, I don't recall anything about the Marauders other than their skill as illegal animagi, which would count as transfiguration. I suppose they were good at DADA (which might as well be called spell combat training and be done with it) but when you consider that Snape invented spells like sectumsempra and langlock he was no slouch in developing and using combat spells. In fact he's the only one I can recall being credited with inventing his own spells in the novels. At all. That leaves the impression that it was a fairly impressive feat, especially for a half-trained teenager.
 

Amberion

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DhampyrX2 said:
Amberion said:
Not sure I would compare them like that. Both Snape and Voldemort had sever personality disorder. Snape had no trouble at all to give Voldemort a baby to kill, it was just when it effected himself that he cared. I would think Voldemort is the same, but with more sadistic personality. And while the environment helped it along, I think it was more that they where born with a predisposition to it, while Harry was not.

As for muggleborns/halfbloods, wasn't Snape jealous of the Marauders for being better at DADA then him?
That's kind of the point of the progression. Voldemort didn't care about anyone but himself and could not grow as a person. Snape only cared about Lily which did offer him a wake-up call about what he was doing and a form of redemption in the end, but ruined his life leading up to it. Harry developed actual friendships and cared about people and got his happily ever after. All three came from what appeared to be broken/abusive environments but each generation got better at dealing with that trauma and rising above it. And all three were remarkable powerful half-bloods.

As for academic rivalries, I don't recall anything about the Marauders other than their skill as illegal animagi, which would count as transfiguration. I suppose they were good at DADA (which might as well be called spell combat training and be done with it) but when you consider that Snape invented spells like sectumsempra and langlock he was no slouch in developing and using combat spells. In fact he's the only one I can recall being credited with inventing his own spells in the novels. At all. That leaves the impression that it was a fairly impressive feat, especially for a half-trained teenager.
To late for me ATM to look for book qoutes, so won't argue if it was in the book or just in my mind.

Remember The Map also. To me, the map seems more advanced then those two spells.
 

DhampyrX2

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Amberion said:
DhampyrX2 said:
Amberion said:
Not sure I would compare them like that. Both Snape and Voldemort had sever personality disorder. Snape had no trouble at all to give Voldemort a baby to kill, it was just when it effected himself that he cared. I would think Voldemort is the same, but with more sadistic personality. And while the environment helped it along, I think it was more that they where born with a predisposition to it, while Harry was not.

As for muggleborns/halfbloods, wasn't Snape jealous of the Marauders for being better at DADA then him?
That's kind of the point of the progression. Voldemort didn't care about anyone but himself and could not grow as a person. Snape only cared about Lily which did offer him a wake-up call about what he was doing and a form of redemption in the end, but ruined his life leading up to it. Harry developed actual friendships and cared about people and got his happily ever after. All three came from what appeared to be broken/abusive environments but each generation got better at dealing with that trauma and rising above it. And all three were remarkable powerful half-bloods.

As for academic rivalries, I don't recall anything about the Marauders other than their skill as illegal animagi, which would count as transfiguration. I suppose they were good at DADA (which might as well be called spell combat training and be done with it) but when you consider that Snape invented spells like sectumsempra and langlock he was no slouch in developing and using combat spells. In fact he's the only one I can recall being credited with inventing his own spells in the novels. At all. That leaves the impression that it was a fairly impressive feat, especially for a half-trained teenager.
To late for me ATM to look for book qoutes, so won't argue if it was in the book or just in my mind.

Remember The Map also. To me, the map seems more advanced then those two spells.
The map was impressive, I just don't think it applies as DADA per se. Charms certainly, and I could see major tactical applications within Hogwarts itself, but it also has limited applications if any outside of Hogwarts. Snape's spells, OTOH, well cutting someone in a way that can't be healed normally or sticking their tongue to the room of their mouth to make it impossible for an enemy to verbalize a spell are both very handy tricks to have in a fight. There's no denying that the Marauders were talented, particularly together, I'm just saying Snape was frightfully talented in his own right. Same with Voldemort and Harry. And when you factor in that we don't know if the map was a new charm or an application of existing ones it becomes a grey area. It still seems telling that the only witches or wizards shown to be inventing or innovating anything directly were Snape and Lily. The Wizarding World seemed to thrive on stagnation until their generation, and later Harry's.

Honestly, had Dumbledore played things differently and managed to somehow manipulate the Marauders into recruiting Snape at a young age instead of letting their rivalries fester, Snape and Lily could have become the research team from hell. Just what they could have done with potions alone was scary. Apply that to DADA as well and have them spamming new stuff for the Order to use and you would make for a very potent weapon that Voldemort would have never seen coming. But, as with all things, hindsight is 50-50.
 
So I'm having an idea for a cracky loop. Basically, Harry is bored and he decides to have some fun for the next reset. He is going find out every single legend/fairy-tail/story/previous-event-in-the-original-timestream and go hilariously over the top trying to
EVERYTHING.

"Hey Potter, is it true you took out that troll with one spell?"

"Of course not." Beat, and then his fists were engulfed in flames, "I punched it through a wall."



It'll be one of those ridiculous and stupid loops, but theres potential for laughs at least.
 

seitora

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Didn't come out quite as well as I wanted.

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“Have I got a prank for you, Harry,” Ron whispered over the loud mingling of the new first-years waiting in the entrance chamber to be brought into the Great Hall.

“Oh?” Harry raised an eyebrow. “Do tell, my dear chum,” He was happy Ron was Awake this loop, it had been a few times around since the redhead had been so. The man had come a long way from the behavior he had in his very first lifetime.

Ron just shook his head, a smirk coming to his face. “You’ll see. Not very long now.”

Harry wondered what Ron might have done, and if it was perhaps something even he himself had not done in a loop Ron was not Awake for (and thus unaware he might be copying Harry).

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Shortly after the conversation between the two old friends, the ickie firsties were brought into the Great Hall of Hogwarts, and introduced to the Sorting Hat, the mechanism by which they were to be sorted. Only Harry saw the small twitch of Ron’s fingers, a telltale mechanism he was doing magic of a sort.

“When I call your name, come up and put the Hat on your head,” McGonagall declared in a loud voice that cut through the excited chatter of those who were to be sorted. “Abbot, Hannah!”

A cute blonde whom Harry knew to grow up with a curvy body (and a delicious bosom, though not as enormous as her friend Susan Bones) went up, nervous an shy at being the first to go up.

With little pomp, she found herself seated on the stool and the Hat on her head. And then the Great Hall waited. And waited. Almost five minutes passed before the Sorting Hat shouted “SLYTHERIN!”

Light applause came from all four tables, three of them disappointment at not getting the first new student, the fourth because raucous cheering was unrefined and under their standards. The pale Hannah slowly walked over to the Slytherin table, quickly seating herself next to another female who looked barely older than Hannah herself, possibly a prior acquaintance of sorts.

Harry let out a quiet hum of contemplation. Even slight changes in how he acted on the Hogwarts train prior to his First Year sorting could usually bump a few people around from their usual House placements, and even then there were often pre-existing changes that went further back in the timeline. A particularly common happenstance was Neville being Sorted into Hufflepuff. But what had occurred to put Hannah into Slytherin, of all Houses?

“Bones, Susan!” McGonagall announced, and the ginger girl who Harry had known in the Biblical sense far too many times to count (a goofy grin went across his face at the memories) went up, far more dignified than the first girl.

It took several minutes again for the Hat to sort her, until it again declared “SLYTHERIN!”

Harry furrowed his eyebrows as he watched Susan move to the table of silver and green, cosying up to Hannah. He could never think of a Loop where Susan and Hannah had both gone into Slytherin. Two could be a coincidence, but three…

It took four, after the sorting of Terry Boot and then Mandy Brocklehurst into Slytherin before he turned over to Ron, and whispered quietly under his breath (with a Charm placed to ensure there were no eavesdroppers, of course), “Ron, you’re a bloody genius. I never even thought of that.”

Ron just beamed in return. “I know,” He said in response to the genius comment.

It didn’t take long for the rest of the Hall to understand what was going on, as both Lavender Brown and Millicent Bulstrode were both sorted into Slytherin, followed by Michael Corner and Stephen Cornfoot. There could only be so many people Sorted into one House in a row before suspicions were aroused.

Harry watched with amusement as the Staff Table began to look panicky. It was a good thing Snape wasn’t Awake, he mused, because he looked like he was about to have a coronary. Even the normally composed McGonagall looked flustered as an unAwake Hermione, as loud and Muggleborn as they come, was Sorted into Slytherin.

It was with less than ten students left that Harry heard his own named called, and strode forward to put on the Hat. Unless Ron intended to prank him by putting him into a separate House, he already knew where he was going.

Ah, not just a time traveller, but somebody who’s existed nearly as long as the universe itself.

Hello, Mr. Hat, Harry responded in favour, having had conversations like this many times over. How aware are you of what you’ve been doing in the last two hours?

Very aware, Mr. Potter, the Hat responded, Of course, I cannot go against the enchantment your young friend Ronald put on me, so of course you will go into Salazar’s house. Not that you need much convincing, by the looks of it.

Of course not, Harry responded, But how do you convince the other students?

The Hat gave what Harry always interpreted as a mental scoff. It is the rare person who has no ambition, no cunning. Just for her desires to learn alone, Miss Granger for example could always have been sorted into Slytherin. Mr. Weaseley’s enchantment is rather clever, as I find myself making subtle, insidious arguments to sway them into accepting Slytherin House. Of course, the Hat paused, After the students saw everyone was being Sorted into Slytherin, they expect to be similarly Sorted, and so it is less an effort.

Ah, Harry thought. Well, it was a good conversation with you, Mr. Hat.

The Sorting Hat concurred, You too Mr. Potter. Have a good life in “SLYTHERIN!”

More quiet applause came. In another lifetime, Harry Potter being Sorted into Slytherin would cause chaos, and newspaper headlines. Here, it was already expected.

Only a few more students were left to be Sorted. Ron had a long, ten-minute Sorting, picking up interest from other students when almost everybody else after Kevin Entwhistle had been sorted in two minutes or less. Even he was eventually sorted into “SLYTHERIN”, with Blaise Zabini being the fortieth new student to enter Slytherin House that year.

“It’s a good prank, I’ll admit,” Harry mentioned to Ron as Ron found a seat next to him. “Any particular reason why, however?” He asked, as Dumbledore went through a very quick speech, before him, Snape and McGonagall all ran out of the Great Hall with the Sorting Hat, clearing in a panic over the proceedings.

Ron shrugged. “I wanted to see what the reaction would be from the public if everybody in a year was in Slytherin. Chaos amuses me. Besides, “ He smirked, “Dumbledore always talks about interhouse unity and all that. It’ll be hard to do that in six years when there is nobody in the other Houses.”
 
Ha, gave me a good chuckle. Though I honestly wouldn't have expected that from Ron, to be honest. You should do a follow up on this one.
 

seitora

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It can't be Harry doing all the pranks. Everyone should mellow out after several Loops.

It would be a pretty interesting idea to play around with, in any case.
 
seitora said:
It can't be Harry doing all the pranks. Everyone should mellow out after several Loops.

It would be a pretty interesting idea to play around with, in any case.
Oh I know, I just wouldn't have expected it from Ron.

For some reason, I would have expected this one more from Hermione.


Maybe I just haven't read these in a while. :p
 
I laughed. Nice to see Harry and Ron being cool during a loop. After so many loop posts from Innortal about Ron being an idiot, it's pretty refreshing.
 

seitora

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Well, it gets boring to read about Harry doing everything. Other characters gotta have some luvin'
 

WarGiver

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That was reallly good. Dumbles would no doubt check the hat very closely after each year of this... but after the sixth year and no other houses... Snape will Snap.
 
3… 2… 1… Harry counted down, as the door opened and Draco Malfoy opened the door, about to launch into his usual introduction speech for first year.
“It's true then.” Harry said. "What they're saying on the train. Draco has come to Hogwarts "
"Uh…," said Draco. He was looking at the other occupants of the compartment. One of them was a giant crab and the other appeared to be a gargoyle.
"Oh, this is Crabbe and this is Goyle," said the scarred boy carelssly, noticing where Draco was looking. "And my name's Potter, Harry Potter."
"You'll soon find out some wizarding families are much better than others, Malfoy. You don't want to go making friends with the wrong sort. I can help you there.”
Harry extended his hand to a baffled Draco Malfoy, who finally fainted from sheer shock.
 
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