Latest issue of X-Men vs Inhumans...Emma Frost is apparently insane, and now being hunted by the Inhumans and the X-Men for attempted genocide. The Inhumans no longer have the cloud to change them...a sacrifice made to prevent the extinction of the mutant race....so apparently marvel has changed it's mind and decided to keep the X-Men around afterall.
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There's a new Ultimate Thor:
Marvel is teasing The Return of Wolverine / A New Wolverine:
Also: Civil War II HC 50% off on Amazon & Secret Wars (2015) HC 46% off on Amazon
Marvel is teasing The Return of Wolverine / A New Wolverine:
Also: Civil War II HC 50% off on Amazon & Secret Wars (2015) HC 46% off on Amazon
So ever since the Thor Ragnarok trailer dropped almost two weeks ago, I've been on a massive MCU binge, and rewatched a ton of Phase two and Civil War, and came up with a bunch of wild guesses as to how Infinity War's going to go down. The biggest one I've come up with is that
There's a few reasons that I think this. First of all, every single film Tony's appeared in (beyond a quick cameo) has had him going through traumatic experiences (placed in spoiler tags for those who aren't interested in an opinionated recap of the Iron Man and Avengers films
And Homecoming's shaping up to be another unpleasant experience for him. Having to deal with the repercussions of bringing Peter to Germany, and the fact that
Oh, and Thanos is probably going to rip the Mind Stone right off of Tony's sort-of-maybe-if-you-squint grandson. Honestly, at this point one of the MCU's taglines should be "Watch us find new ways to torment Tony Stark!"
Another reason I think my theory might happen is, oddly enough, the armours themselves.
Tony's going to snap, have a psychotic break and go full supervillain well-intentioned extremist.
There's a few reasons that I think this. First of all, every single film Tony's appeared in (beyond a quick cameo) has had him going through traumatic experiences (placed in spoiler tags for those who aren't interested in an opinionated recap of the Iron Man and Avengers films
Being kidnapped and tortured. Finding out that his business partner and surrogate father figure had been manipulating him his entire life and tried to have him killed, and then having to kill that father figure. (Oh, and let's not forget, the truth about Stane being covered up might mean that he was never revealed to be the ones selling weapons to the Ten Rings, which means that Tony might still be considered to be responsible for it by the public. After all, the Maximoffs never mention Stane.)
Discovering that he effectively had a terminal illness, and the thing that was supposed to be his method of redemption was killing him.
Meeting the guy his dad "never shut up about" and being found wanting. Coulson's "death" (and I'm still not sure that Tony has learned that it didn't stick even years later.) Carrying the nuke through the portal (and seeing just how big the Chitauri army was.)
Dealing with his PTSD. Having his house blown up and his friend hospitalised. Seeing his girlfriend tortured (and later apparently die.) Discovering that he had a role, no matter how objectively minor, in setting the antagonist that was responsible for these attacks on their path.
Being shown the thing he fears most; his friends all dead or dying, the world about to be invaded by the army that he knew was coming, complete with the knowledge that he could have prevented it. Having his creation murdered. Having to fight his other (kinda-sorta) creation. Having to deal with two siblings who blame him for the death of their parents (and all the while aware that if he hadn't spent most of his adult life partying, then he might have caught on to Obadiah's weapons sales and stopped them.) The "Vision isn't JARVIS maybe sorta kinda" mess.
The events of CA:CW. His relationship with the woman he once called "the one thing I can't live without" having ended due to him being unable to stop being Iron Man. His best friend ending up paralysed. Finding out the true circumstances of his parent's deaths. Finding out that his teammate had known about it for years and hadn't told him. Effectively being called a traitor for wanting to be held accountable for his actions.
Discovering that he effectively had a terminal illness, and the thing that was supposed to be his method of redemption was killing him.
Meeting the guy his dad "never shut up about" and being found wanting. Coulson's "death" (and I'm still not sure that Tony has learned that it didn't stick even years later.) Carrying the nuke through the portal (and seeing just how big the Chitauri army was.)
Dealing with his PTSD. Having his house blown up and his friend hospitalised. Seeing his girlfriend tortured (and later apparently die.) Discovering that he had a role, no matter how objectively minor, in setting the antagonist that was responsible for these attacks on their path.
Being shown the thing he fears most; his friends all dead or dying, the world about to be invaded by the army that he knew was coming, complete with the knowledge that he could have prevented it. Having his creation murdered. Having to fight his other (kinda-sorta) creation. Having to deal with two siblings who blame him for the death of their parents (and all the while aware that if he hadn't spent most of his adult life partying, then he might have caught on to Obadiah's weapons sales and stopped them.) The "Vision isn't JARVIS maybe sorta kinda" mess.
The events of CA:CW. His relationship with the woman he once called "the one thing I can't live without" having ended due to him being unable to stop being Iron Man. His best friend ending up paralysed. Finding out the true circumstances of his parent's deaths. Finding out that his teammate had known about it for years and hadn't told him. Effectively being called a traitor for wanting to be held accountable for his actions.
And Homecoming's shaping up to be another unpleasant experience for him. Having to deal with the repercussions of bringing Peter to Germany, and the fact that
Tooms was driven out of business by Tony's agency created to handle the clean-up of superhero disasters. Once again negative repercussions of his desire to atone for his sins (real or self-perceived.)
Oh, and Thanos is probably going to rip the Mind Stone right off of Tony's sort-of-maybe-if-you-squint grandson. Honestly, at this point one of the MCU's taglines should be "Watch us find new ways to torment Tony Stark!"
Another reason I think my theory might happen is, oddly enough, the armours themselves.
As the MCU has gone on, we've seen the evolution of the Iron Man armours. We've seen the prototype leading up to the classic red-and-gold. We've had the Mark 5 suitcase armour (with the colour scheme of the Silver Centurion.) We've had the various specialised "niche" armours with the Iron Legion. We've had the Hulkbuster. And we've had the Mark 46, the design of which is specifically based on the Bleeding Edge armour from the comics. So, what's next?
Not taking into account the various "one-off" or specialised amours (like one made completely of cold iron to fight elves,) or variants like stealth armours, IMO there are four "main" armours from the comics that we've yet to see any versions of in the MCU (not taking into account the Model 51 Prime armour, which sort of takes the whole MCU Autonomic Prehensile System to the next level.) The Black and Gold Model 42, designed to be modular, being able to swap out various load-outs on the fly. The Deep Space Model 45 which, considering the plot of Infinity Wars, is likely to make an appearance.
And the Model 50. The Endo-Sym armour used by the morally-inverted Superior Iron Man. We never really had the "Tony turns himself into a Technopath" part of the adaptation of the Extremis storyline in IM3, and I think the upcoming Infinity Wars is the perfect time to effectively merge it with the Superior Iron Man arc, which introduced Extremis 3.0, and adapt it to the MCU.
Think about it. The threat that Tony has known about for years is at Earth's doorstep. The threat he wanted a perfected version of Ultron to be ready for. But instead of being prepared for this, Thor and Banner went and got themselves kidnapped (after the latter ran off,) and Steve tore the Avengers apart and destroyed any possibility of trust between the two of them, to protect the murderer of Tony's parents.
Another attack by an alien army was inevitable, and most of the Avengers were more concerned about not losing the autonomy the world didn't initially object to granting them. Which they only got because they defended the world from the first version of the alien army. I mean, "Then we'll lose together, too." What kind of crap is that?
But who cares? Because for more than a year, before Rogers even defrosted, Tony Stark privatised World Peace. Back when he first started, he wasn't answering to any authority, but he was still accountable, to the American people if nothing else. Ultron was a mistake. He sees that now. Ironically, Steve was right about one thing. The safest hands are our own. Putting all that information and power in even a perfected Ultron programme would have been wrong. Because if Tony's life has taught him anything, it's that ultimately he can only trust himself. The only one he can trust with the power and responsibility is himself. And if he can't handle it, then he shouldn't be trying to share the burden with others that will inevitably either die or disappoint him. He should instead transform himself into someone who can shoulder the burden entirely.
A few years ago he said the Iron Man suit was a cocoon. It's time to make that a little more literal.
Not taking into account the various "one-off" or specialised amours (like one made completely of cold iron to fight elves,) or variants like stealth armours, IMO there are four "main" armours from the comics that we've yet to see any versions of in the MCU (not taking into account the Model 51 Prime armour, which sort of takes the whole MCU Autonomic Prehensile System to the next level.) The Black and Gold Model 42, designed to be modular, being able to swap out various load-outs on the fly. The Deep Space Model 45 which, considering the plot of Infinity Wars, is likely to make an appearance.
And the Model 50. The Endo-Sym armour used by the morally-inverted Superior Iron Man. We never really had the "Tony turns himself into a Technopath" part of the adaptation of the Extremis storyline in IM3, and I think the upcoming Infinity Wars is the perfect time to effectively merge it with the Superior Iron Man arc, which introduced Extremis 3.0, and adapt it to the MCU.
Think about it. The threat that Tony has known about for years is at Earth's doorstep. The threat he wanted a perfected version of Ultron to be ready for. But instead of being prepared for this, Thor and Banner went and got themselves kidnapped (after the latter ran off,) and Steve tore the Avengers apart and destroyed any possibility of trust between the two of them, to protect the murderer of Tony's parents.
Another attack by an alien army was inevitable, and most of the Avengers were more concerned about not losing the autonomy the world didn't initially object to granting them. Which they only got because they defended the world from the first version of the alien army. I mean, "Then we'll lose together, too." What kind of crap is that?
But who cares? Because for more than a year, before Rogers even defrosted, Tony Stark privatised World Peace. Back when he first started, he wasn't answering to any authority, but he was still accountable, to the American people if nothing else. Ultron was a mistake. He sees that now. Ironically, Steve was right about one thing. The safest hands are our own. Putting all that information and power in even a perfected Ultron programme would have been wrong. Because if Tony's life has taught him anything, it's that ultimately he can only trust himself. The only one he can trust with the power and responsibility is himself. And if he can't handle it, then he shouldn't be trying to share the burden with others that will inevitably either die or disappoint him. He should instead transform himself into someone who can shoulder the burden entirely.
A few years ago he said the Iron Man suit was a cocoon. It's time to make that a little more literal.
da_fox2279 said:
EDIT: Ah, they've edited the wiki. Interesting character.
