Mirror Universe Nanoha

[Prince Charon]

An idea brought on by this image, which isn't all that safe for work.

What would a Mirror Universe version of Nanoha be like? Admittedly, the image is perfectly plausible in the canon universe, but it also works with an Evil!Nanoha.

Would Precia Testarossa be a good (or at least, non-child-abusing) rebel, fighting against a tyrannical TSAB, or still an evil criminal (the Halkans were pretty much the same, in both timelines)? Will we later see Fate say "Mr. Granscenic, your agonizer, please,"? Are the enemies good people, or is it a case of bad people who are on opposite sides, or is it a mix?

So, thoughts?

 

[drakensis]

Nanoha is seeking out the Seeds for her own benefit: she wants to use their power for herself. Yuuno becomes her hapless minion.

Precia on the other hand wants to make sure they are in safe hands, not the tyrannical grip of the TSAB, so she sends her beloved second daughter Fate and her familiar Art out to retrieve them.

Arf wants to break free of being a mere familiar and works on Fate's mind, creating the impression that Fate is 'second-best' to her dead sister Alicia, and Precia is sending her away.

After several clashes, between Fate and Nanoha, Precia decides to intervene as clearly Fate is having difficulty. Fate throws a massive tantrum about not being trusted and storms off to get the Seeds.

Fate and Nanoha are fighting furiously when the quarrel is widened by the intervention of both Precia and of Chrono Harlaown, acting on behalf of his mother, Lindy Harlaown, a powerful figure in the TSAB. Precia makes off with Seeds but Chrono is able to bring Fate and Nanoha to Lindy, who recruits them - insincerely promising Nanoha a larger scope for her ambitions and Fate an apparently loving new mother-figure.

Under Lindy's direction, the young mages lead an assault on Precia's refuge where, despite Precia's efforts, Fate rejects her. Precia attempts to use the Seeds to escape, but Nanoha convinces Fate to interfere, leading to Precia and the body of Alicia falling into the dimensional void.

Later, when Fate is preparing to return to the TSAB with Lindy, Nanoha sets her up as her agent - although apparently loyal to Lindy, Nanoha is plotting how to supplant her and Fate accepts this, swearing loyalty to her new mistress and forcing Arf to obey her.

 

[marthf1]

Well, that would certainly turn the series' on its head. I fear what would the next two series' be like - nice knowing you TSAB & Book of Darkness.

 

[Prince Charon]

Interesting. I wonder what Mirror-Hayate is like. For that matter, Admiral Graeme, Aria, and Lotte were the villains in A's, so I wonder if they'd be all that different, here.

 

[windstorm]

Interesting concept. I kind of envision an anti-hero mirror version of Nanoha. Mirror Nanoha is selfish and usually does things for her own benefit rather than others but isn't necessarily evil. One possibility that comes to mind is having mercenary tendencies where she ends helping both sides, whichever is more convenient or gets her more money for her services. Could wind up with some scenes where mirror Nanoha has conflicting feelings on that sort of thing as well.

On another note it would be interesting if it turns into a parallel dimension where people from both the regular Nanoha verse and the mirror one crossover. Leads to a lot of surprises and funny reactions when people see the familiar looking, yet fundamentally different versions of themselves and people that they know. For example imagine how the normal Fate might react to the bad girl version of Nanoha.

 

[toraneko]

Don't forget - this mirror universe should affect everyone.

The Takamachi family as a whole should be changed.

Takamachi Shirou, the former assassin forced to quit his profession due to severe injuries and having made too many enemies. He takes his frustration out via cruelty to his family.

Takamachi Momoko, cold and sadistic. She belittles her husband for having to give up his 'dream job', demands perfection from her children, and - though she puts on a kind face for the customers - is absolutely ruthless in the running of Midoriya.

Takamachi Kyouya, eldest brother and huge bully. He is the primary target of his parents' cruelties, and passes it on to Miyuki and Nanoha. Particularly cruel to Miyuki during training.

Takamachi Miyuki, most eager to succeed her father's job as an assassin. Only tolerates Kyouya's bullying in order to learn all he knows about the family killing arts, and fully intends to kill him once she has done so.

Essentially, it's a family glued together by mutual ill will.


Others:

Yuuno Scrya, talented mage and opportunistic treasure hunter under the guise of being an "archaeologist". Wanted to hit it big when he discovered the Jewel Seeds, but failed to control their power. Now toadying up to Nanoha in order to get them back and seize power for himself before the TSAB can.

Raging Heart is the kill-happy demonic device we see depicted in some of the fanworks - always whispering evil thoughts into Nanoha's mind, in an attempt to vicariously live out its evil fantasies. It secretly was the reason why Yuuno failed to control the Jewel Seeds - it saw Yuuno as unfit to wield its power and incapable of achieving its goals, so it sabotaged his attempts, settting in motion the events that would lead RH to the hands of someone more 'worthy'.

 

[Prince Charon]

Possible images of Mirror Nanoha

 

[ecs05norway]

Mirror-A's speculations:

Gil Graham is pretty much exactly as canon paints him: bitter, tormented, and out for revenge against the Book of Darkness.

Lotte and Aria are his minions, manipulating Chrono and Hayate both in order to fulfill his plans. (And Chrono's old enough that they could use sex to gain more control over him, being the cute little catgirl hotties that they are.)

Fate was found innocent not because she actually /was/ innocent, but because Gil and Lindy fixed the trial to make sure of it.

Hayate is bitter and twisted by her long illness, frustrated by her apparent powerlessness. The total loyalty of the Knights is like a drug to her, and she indulges in it frequently, all the time becoming more and more the pawn of the Book itself.

Signum and Vita are perfect killers, the Book's loyal samurai. Signum is perhaps the only one to harbor any doubts, and these will all be washed away by Hayate's growing power. She is, at her core, elegance, grace, and death personified. Vita is a child, innocent even as she slaughters, taking a childish delight in the art of destruction and the blood of her enemies.

Shamal is control and precision. She is the puppet-mistress, the one who binds the innocent in her webs, drawing them in all unsuspecting until there is no possibility of escape. She is the plotter, the manipulator, and the liar, Hayate's left hand woman.

Zafira... The Beast. Berserker. A monster barely restrained by the human form forced upon him. If it were not for the Book's chains, he would have raged uncontrollably... even now, sometimes, Shamal must step in to maintain his semblance of sanity.

Arisa and Suzuka - Nanoha's pets - try hard to recruit Hayate for their Mistress' games with the TSAB, but in the end it's she who does the recruiting, and willingly enters Unison with Reinforce I to destroy the Bureau ships sent against them.

Unison manages to repair some of the code corruption, leaving a semi-stable, mutually abusive symbiosis between Hayate and Reinforce, with Nanoha and Fate now as completely bound to them as Signum, Shamal, Vita, and Zafira. Nanoha's plans for the TSAB will be implemented, but it will be Hayate's hand at the helm....

And on to StrikerS.

 

[drakensis]

Hmm. Not sure about StrikerS itself, but during the time skip presumably Hayate and her followers rise in power and influence through the TSAB. Graham's death was arranged by Hayate and Lindy has been sidelined and pushed out of power so that Hayate could pick up most of the power, resources and connections she had. Chrono has been rising through the ranks and retains enough strength and influence to protect Lindy from most consequences of a rise to power. However, the girls have clearly eclipsed him as the new stars of the TSAB's ranks, which leaves him bitter.

Meanwhile, relocating to Midchildia moves Hayate, Nanoha and Fate closer to the centre of power for the TSAB. Nanoha's injuries a few years ago were caused fighting against an insurgency against the TSAB, but Hayate arranged a lack of support and poor intelligence because the near-death experience smashed Nanoha's efforts to usurp power within the group.

Fate has been carefully recruiting young, malleable mages to join their ranks. Hayate has been working more to pick out support staff and firming up an alliance with Genya Nakajima since she considers his 'daughters' to be useful potential tools. Hayate's rising influence is seen as a threat by Regius Gaze, and as useful by Carim Gracia, who wants to use her against Regius.

Jail Scaglietti, originally created by the TSAB's leaders to draw opposition to their regieme together so that they could smash it, has now become a genuine opponent of his former masters and has gathered the best of several resistance movements together. Using Regius' fears as an opening, they seek the Cradle as a means to destroy the TSAB once and for all...

 

[biigoh]

*offers up some Nanoha 4koma*

http://asnano.wordpress.com/category/comics-q-ice/

 

[Nanya]

Hmm. Not sure about StrikerS itself, but during the time skip presumably Hayate and her followers rise in power and influence through the TSAB. Graham's death was arranged by Hayate and Lindy has been sidelined and pushed out of power so that Hayate could pick up most of the power, resources and connections she had. Chrono has been rising through the ranks and retains enough strength and influence to protect Lindy from most consequences of a rise to power. However, the girls have clearly eclipsed him as the new stars of the TSAB's ranks, which leaves him bitter.

Meanwhile, relocating to Midchildia moves Hayate, Nanoha and Fate closer to the centre of power for the TSAB. Nanoha's injuries a few years ago were caused fighting against an insurgency against the TSAB, but Hayate arranged a lack of support and poor intelligence because the near-death experience smashed Nanoha's efforts to usurp power within the group.

Fate has been carefully recruiting young, malleable mages to join their ranks. Hayate has been working more to pick out support staff and firming up an alliance with Genya Nakajima since she considers his 'daughters' to be useful potential tools. Hayate's rising influence is seen as a threat by Regius Gaze, and as useful by Carim Gracia, who wants to use her against Regius.

Jail Scaglietti, originally created by the TSAB's leaders to draw opposition to their regieme together so that they could smash it, has now become a genuine opponent of his former masters and has gathered the best of several resistance movements together. Using Regius' fears as an opening, they seek the Cradle as a means to destroy the TSAB once and for all...

Drakensis... This is such an awesome idea.

I would love to see it myself. ^_^

 

[Nanya]

Actually, I wanna add to this and say that in the manga omakes for As...

Raising Heart is always saying to Nanoha that she should use full power and kill everything.

And Fate, in the Omakes, is far more obvious with her preferences. Of course, Nanoha doesn't pick up on any of it.

And Hayate is more likely to strike people, usually with a paper fan. (course, this is all in humor, but...)

Just thought to add that.

 

[toraneko]

I know what you're talking about, Nanya, but those aren't official omake - those are fan-drawn 4koma, played entirely for laughs.

 

[Nanya]

I know what you're talking about, Nanya, but those aren't official omake - those are fan-drawn 4koma, played entirely for laughs.

You sure?

Because some of it (Fate, especially) is actually supported by the Sound Stages.

That and Hayate has a breast-fetish, always groping and feeling up Signum and Shamal.

 

[marthf1]

They could have listened to the sound stages first or have a decent understanding of the official positions of the writers.

 

[toraneko]

@Nanya: Yeah, I'm sure. The 4koma are a series called "A's Nano!" and "StrikerS Nano!" by artist Mikage Kishi (website: http://ashitahadocchida.sakura.ne.jp/). I follow them myself; they're funny, but they're decidedly non-canon.

Hayate's breast fixation is canon (though it might be a slight bit of envy on her part), but Fate's slight yuri tendencies may well be in Class S.

The same artist also did a series of Code Geass 4koma called "Code Geachu: Lelouch of the Calamity", and more recently a series of 4koma based on the new yuri mahjong anime Saki.

Do a search on Danbooru for "mikage_kishi" (without the quotes).

 

[Mea Nihil]

I honestly don't see Vita changing. She is a battle maniac through and through, and I recall her ignoring orders multiple times in order to pursue a target. I could see her being a freelance agent - a mercenary in short - who picks her own contracts, regardless of whose side she previously helped...

 

[Prince Charon]

I honestly don't see Vita changing. She is a battle maniac through and through, and I recall her ignoring orders multiple times in order to pursue a target. I could see her being a freelance agent - a mercenary in short - who picks her own contracts, regardless of whose side she previously helped...

Um, she's rather bound to Hayate, so I don't see her leaving the Wolkenritter. You're right that Mirror-Vita wouldn't have to be all that different, though.

I wonder about the Mirror versions of Subaru and Teana, though. There's a scene, early in StrikerS, where Nanoha uses a low-level 'befriending' on Teana, that looked pretty damn scary in canon. The Mirror version of that scene would likely be quite a bit worse.

 

[Shikaze]

Here's a few pics of what hayate, nanoha and Fate could look like when they want to REALLY frighten their opponents :

 

[Prince Charon]

This one gives me a 403 error when I try 'View Image' on it. Copying the url, and pasting it into the browser's navigation line works, though.

EDIT: and now it woks just fine. How odd.

 

[Prince Charon]

Was recently reminded of this thread, by being reminded of a thread in the Other Lemon forum, which I can't link to, for obvious reasons. Go to the Lemon forums, go to Other, and search for 'Nanoha StrikerS: As Pure as it is Destructive' (without the quotes). There's some things in that thread that could be twisted to fit this one, though it would probably mean making Mirror-Precia still be evil.

 

[Shiakou]

I honestly don't see Vita changing. She is a battle maniac through and through, and I recall her ignoring orders multiple times in order to pursue a target. I could see her being a freelance agent - a mercenary in short - who picks her own contracts, regardless of whose side she previously helped...

Okay, is this a "Mirror Universe" or an "Everyone is Evil Universe"?

Because if Vita's a battle maniac in canon, she might well be a technical pacifist in a mirror universe. . .

"I won't smash someone until I know why they're fighting!" Mirror!Vita shouted.

Mirror!Nanoha and Mirror!Fate glared at her in contempt and surprise.

Mirror!Hayate resisted the urge to smack her head on a table. "Of all the minions I could have picked, I had to get the one with a large mallet and no will to use it. You're a disgrace to the tsundere name!"

 

[Shiakou]

I know what you're talking about, Nanya, but those aren't official omake - those are fan-drawn 4koma, played entirely for laughs.

You sure?

Because some of it (Fate, especially) is actually supported by the Sound Stages.

That and Hayate has a breast-fetish, always groping and feeling up Signum and Shamal.

I think he's right Nanya. According to those same omake, Fate's affection for Nanoha is tempered by a rather healthy dose of pure terror.

And I'm not really sure if it's Raising Heart that's corrupting Nanoha. . . or if it's just that Nanoha and Yuuno were corrupt all along.

 

[toraneko]

Er, those three aren't Mikage Kishi's work, Shiakou.

But thanks for those all the same. An alt. Nanoha, who is a team-killing psycho.

 

[Anon Amarr]

>evil Nanoha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HNTpPFGI8U