Miscellaneous Ideas Thread
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Well, in the context of Percy Jackson, at least from the third book on when the Titans start coming into play, Loki is hardly bordering on a deus ex machina. He's over the top here only in that he is not bound by the Greek's Ancient Laws against direct interference and is not about to suffer being talked down to by a simple monster. Of course, Artemis uses a loophole in her role as Goddess of the Hunt to pull the same kind of stuff with rescuing her hunters so take that for what you will. It's just Loki is on par with the Big Three much like Odin and Thor would be. And the fact he can't actually enter the Underworld without Hades' permission will keep him from being too much of a presence at this point. He might tag along or keep an invisible eye on the quest until it reaches the gates of the Underworld but he's not exactly the type to hold Percy's hand.
As for Zeus, yes this will freak him out and get him blustering in the extreme. Possibly enough to force Odin to come bargain for Percy's safety when he enters Olympus with the Master Bolt. I still haven't worked that out 100% in my head yet.
I'm also on the fence about Percy learning his is not the least bit human at this point. Part of me wants him to know everything so he can talk to his Uncle Jormungandr in the Sea of Monsters and part of me wants to wait for Titan's Curse because revealing it against Atlas seems a lot more epic. There's also the dynamic of Percy being ostracized the way a child of Hades would be if he knows his is Hela's child before Titan's Curse, which would help him bond with the di Angelo kids.
Yeah, I suppose Percy finding out either while "rescuing" his mother (re: discovering her and Uncle Hades playing chess and waiting for him after hashing out what they know between each other while waiting for him to arrive) or finding out on Olympus because Zeus is a paranoid ass would work better for the narrative as a whole.
As for Zeus, yes this will freak him out and get him blustering in the extreme. Possibly enough to force Odin to come bargain for Percy's safety when he enters Olympus with the Master Bolt. I still haven't worked that out 100% in my head yet.
I'm also on the fence about Percy learning his is not the least bit human at this point. Part of me wants him to know everything so he can talk to his Uncle Jormungandr in the Sea of Monsters and part of me wants to wait for Titan's Curse because revealing it against Atlas seems a lot more epic. There's also the dynamic of Percy being ostracized the way a child of Hades would be if he knows his is Hela's child before Titan's Curse, which would help him bond with the di Angelo kids.
Yeah, I suppose Percy finding out either while "rescuing" his mother (re: discovering her and Uncle Hades playing chess and waiting for him after hashing out what they know between each other while waiting for him to arrive) or finding out on Olympus because Zeus is a paranoid ass would work better for the narrative as a whole.
Hmm... for the ostracizing part, why not set him to reveal his abilities and stuff. When he explains he and his family inherited them from Hela (more directly than he believes) and Loki, that could lead to the ostracizing without him having to be totally aware of it.
That way you could still have him freaked a bit when he discovers the truth and change things up a bit. Heck, you could still have Jormungandr treat him as a cousin by the same way that Loki asked to be called grandfather.
For Odin and Zeus... hmm... I dunno. When I think of Asgard and Olympus in the context of the setting, not necessarily your story in particular, I keep thinking of them as two rival superpowers in a similar way to the Soviet Union and America during the Cold War. Mostly because I think that the concept of Ragnarok, the Twilight of the Gods as prophesied, whether it has occurred yet or not, wouldn't be too discriminatory as to just which gods it brings down. I could see Odin being very upset if his grandnephew, considering Loki in original mythology was Odin's brother IIRC, is getting screwed with. Ah found it, in the Lokasenna there's this:
So, blood brothers at least. And if they've been altered by the modern perception of them (Marvel), then I could see Odin being very angry that not only has his niece/grandaughter been used as a hostage against his grandnephew/great-grandson, but that said grandnephew/great-grandson was being forced to go up against the various monsters and such, though I bet he'd be pretty proud of Percy for being such a proper hero.
That way you could still have him freaked a bit when he discovers the truth and change things up a bit. Heck, you could still have Jormungandr treat him as a cousin by the same way that Loki asked to be called grandfather.
For Odin and Zeus... hmm... I dunno. When I think of Asgard and Olympus in the context of the setting, not necessarily your story in particular, I keep thinking of them as two rival superpowers in a similar way to the Soviet Union and America during the Cold War. Mostly because I think that the concept of Ragnarok, the Twilight of the Gods as prophesied, whether it has occurred yet or not, wouldn't be too discriminatory as to just which gods it brings down. I could see Odin being very upset if his grandnephew, considering Loki in original mythology was Odin's brother IIRC, is getting screwed with. Ah found it, in the Lokasenna there's this:
So, blood brothers at least. And if they've been altered by the modern perception of them (Marvel), then I could see Odin being very angry that not only has his niece/grandaughter been used as a hostage against his grandnephew/great-grandson, but that said grandnephew/great-grandson was being forced to go up against the various monsters and such, though I bet he'd be pretty proud of Percy for being such a proper hero.
This is kind of set in a hybrid of of the movieverse for Marvel. Hela, Amora, Sigyn, and the rest are all in play but Thor 1 has not taken place yet and the Asgardians really are gods, not advanced aliens. So Odin is very much Loki's (adopted) father here but Loki has not learned he is really a Jotun, he's actually much more loved by Odin than his comic counterpart (even if it's more hands off), and he hasn't gone round the bend yet.
I suppose Percy could only be partially aware of his heritage as long as Asgard knows full well who he is. After all, you need Amora to have a reason to show up to scope out the newest addition to the royal family by the second or third book.
I suppose Percy could only be partially aware of his heritage as long as Asgard knows full well who he is. After all, you need Amora to have a reason to show up to scope out the newest addition to the royal family by the second or third book.
Hmm...
Alright, lets see.
Hybrid. Just the Norse right? No SHIELD mucking around with things?
Also, CaringGrandfatherAnthonyHopkins!Odin is cool.
Hmm... right, so no-one in the family, outside of Odin and Frigga, would know why Percy keeps producing Ice with his powers.
Amora... have her show up either sometime between Sally disappearing and Percy's meeting with Loki with her as either his somewhat estranged cousin or his aunt looking to reconnect with the family. And then becoming his interim teacher while his mother's missing. That or have her show up, same-ish story, but because Loki sent her to help out his grandson.
Alright, lets see.
Hybrid. Just the Norse right? No SHIELD mucking around with things?
Also, CaringGrandfatherAnthonyHopkins!Odin is cool.
Hmm... right, so no-one in the family, outside of Odin and Frigga, would know why Percy keeps producing Ice with his powers.
Amora... have her show up either sometime between Sally disappearing and Percy's meeting with Loki with her as either his somewhat estranged cousin or his aunt looking to reconnect with the family. And then becoming his interim teacher while his mother's missing. That or have her show up, same-ish story, but because Loki sent her to help out his grandson.
Actually the timelines kind of match up for a straight cross. The end of the The Last Olympian should be right around Thor 1 and Percy's subsequent disappearance after Hera kidnaps him to send him to the Roman Camp as part of her plans to prepare both camps for Gaia and her giant children in the Heroes of Olympus series would an an added stress to explain Loki going crazy the way he did.
That's not to say SHIELD would have any say in demigod matters at this point. At least for the Greeks the Mist is a pretty good handwave to keep mortals out of affairs that don't concern them.
I would be more inclined to think Amora would take it upon herself to get to know and eventually train/mentor Percy a bit even if it was Loki that led her to the idea. And Hela will be indifferent toward her spending time with Hela's only child. At best. Hela and Amora don't have the historical working relationship bordering on friendship that Loki and Amora share and Amora's reputation is dubious at best. Especially when you're trying to raise a godling just beginning his adolescence.
Most of Asgard, and Olympus for that matter, will assume Percy's ice abilities come from his grandmother, Angrboda, since she was known to be a Jotun already. And really it would only be an issue to the average Asgardian, most of whom would be wary of him for being Hela's son already. Also keep in mind that Thor is still a loudmouthed, if well meaning, douche at this point. And he would be inclined to visit his new Great Nephew and share in his brother's happiness at becoming a grandfather. You can take what you will from that in whether Sif and the Warriors Three would join him and whether he would encroach on Camp Half blood or Percy's school during the regular year to do so.
You also have the future opportunity for Hera and Frigga to butt heads over Percy. Hera will be inclined to despise him as a product of adultery while Frigga will cherish her new great-grandchild.
That's not to say SHIELD would have any say in demigod matters at this point. At least for the Greeks the Mist is a pretty good handwave to keep mortals out of affairs that don't concern them.
I would be more inclined to think Amora would take it upon herself to get to know and eventually train/mentor Percy a bit even if it was Loki that led her to the idea. And Hela will be indifferent toward her spending time with Hela's only child. At best. Hela and Amora don't have the historical working relationship bordering on friendship that Loki and Amora share and Amora's reputation is dubious at best. Especially when you're trying to raise a godling just beginning his adolescence.
Most of Asgard, and Olympus for that matter, will assume Percy's ice abilities come from his grandmother, Angrboda, since she was known to be a Jotun already. And really it would only be an issue to the average Asgardian, most of whom would be wary of him for being Hela's son already. Also keep in mind that Thor is still a loudmouthed, if well meaning, douche at this point. And he would be inclined to visit his new Great Nephew and share in his brother's happiness at becoming a grandfather. You can take what you will from that in whether Sif and the Warriors Three would join him and whether he would encroach on Camp Half blood or Percy's school during the regular year to do so.
You also have the future opportunity for Hera and Frigga to butt heads over Percy. Hera will be inclined to despise him as a product of adultery while Frigga will cherish her new great-grandchild.
Ooh, goody, you made it possible for something that makes me rather happy: Hulk v Titan/Cyclops/some other Greek monster. Hehe.
Serious now.
Hmm. Hera and Frigga butting heads. Hmm. Somehow I think that would be more likely actually than Odin and Zeus. Zeus I think, once Percy proved himself, would probably be rather indifferent towards his nephew, so I can't really see him getting into it too badly with Odin at that point.
Amora. I think she could perfectly fill in the 'bad influence big sister' role quite easily. One of the thoughts I had for her tracking him down was that she felt the use of seidr on Midgard, and investigated it. Finding out it was Loki's descendant, she may or may not know Percy's his grandson at first, she decides to earn some brownie points by offering him some tips and teaching him some new spells and stuff.
Hmm. Forgot about Angrboda. Right, I suppose that could explain it.
Hmm... Thor shows up, happy to meet his nephew and spills the whole story completely accidentally, leading to Percy having a BSOD that freezes the surroundings. Heh.
I think that if you have Sif and Percy meet, it should seperate from Thor and the rest, and in some situation where he is forced to use his powers for some reason. And when they start talking, he says something sarcastic and Sif suddenly freezes, thinking: "Oh Odin, there's two of them now..."
Serious now.
Hmm. Hera and Frigga butting heads. Hmm. Somehow I think that would be more likely actually than Odin and Zeus. Zeus I think, once Percy proved himself, would probably be rather indifferent towards his nephew, so I can't really see him getting into it too badly with Odin at that point.
Amora. I think she could perfectly fill in the 'bad influence big sister' role quite easily. One of the thoughts I had for her tracking him down was that she felt the use of seidr on Midgard, and investigated it. Finding out it was Loki's descendant, she may or may not know Percy's his grandson at first, she decides to earn some brownie points by offering him some tips and teaching him some new spells and stuff.
Hmm. Forgot about Angrboda. Right, I suppose that could explain it.
Hmm... Thor shows up, happy to meet his nephew and spills the whole story completely accidentally, leading to Percy having a BSOD that freezes the surroundings. Heh.
I think that if you have Sif and Percy meet, it should seperate from Thor and the rest, and in some situation where he is forced to use his powers for some reason. And when they start talking, he says something sarcastic and Sif suddenly freezes, thinking: "Oh Odin, there's two of them now..."
Zeus will make a very foolish assumption at the end to the first book, timeline-wise, that will make him feel better about Percy if still upset that Poseidon went off and nailed an Asgardian. Namely he will assume (it really does make and ass of you and me) that since Percy is not a demigod, then the Great Prophecy can not possibly be about him.
Of course he will miss the fact that the Prophecy specifically states "A Halfblood of the eldest gods, shall reach sixteen against all odds..."
Halfblood, not demigod. Percy is only half Olympian and was technically raised under Asgardian law and traditions by his mother. On Asgard he would be known as Perseus Helajarson, not Perseus Jackson or even Peseus Poseidonson. You have to love technicalities like that and how they can trip you up.
Regardless, Percy will probably be much closer to his Uncle Hades and Aunt Persephone than he ever will be to Zeus. In fact Persephone will like Percy much more than she will Hades' demigod children for obvious reasons, even if Percy will see them as surrogate siblings of a sort.
Amora will be fun when I can get to her. Percy will be something between a little brother, favorite new plaything, and protege for her as he has already demonstrated a talent for seidr. In fact, going by the comics and animated films, Amora was one of Loki's earliest teachers as well. And for all that they look similar I think it might upset Hela of her baby starts taking TOO much after his grandfather. After all, other than his marriage to Sigyn, Loki's life has never been a happy or easy one. Hela would want better for her only child.
And is it wrong that I have this weird head canon of Poseidon and Amphitrite have something of an open marriage as it was politically motivated, and that Amphitrite might even suggest the idea of a threesome with Hela sometime? (But hey, I'm twisted. I can't watch Disney's Little Mermaid anymore without thinking that, as Triton's daughter, Ariel and her sisters would all technically be Percy's nieces.)
Some of the real fun will come in as other gods and goddesses get involved. Percy will gain even more attention than normal here from more players than he does in canon. It should be an interesting ride.
Of course he will miss the fact that the Prophecy specifically states "A Halfblood of the eldest gods, shall reach sixteen against all odds..."
Halfblood, not demigod. Percy is only half Olympian and was technically raised under Asgardian law and traditions by his mother. On Asgard he would be known as Perseus Helajarson, not Perseus Jackson or even Peseus Poseidonson. You have to love technicalities like that and how they can trip you up.
Regardless, Percy will probably be much closer to his Uncle Hades and Aunt Persephone than he ever will be to Zeus. In fact Persephone will like Percy much more than she will Hades' demigod children for obvious reasons, even if Percy will see them as surrogate siblings of a sort.
Amora will be fun when I can get to her. Percy will be something between a little brother, favorite new plaything, and protege for her as he has already demonstrated a talent for seidr. In fact, going by the comics and animated films, Amora was one of Loki's earliest teachers as well. And for all that they look similar I think it might upset Hela of her baby starts taking TOO much after his grandfather. After all, other than his marriage to Sigyn, Loki's life has never been a happy or easy one. Hela would want better for her only child.
And is it wrong that I have this weird head canon of Poseidon and Amphitrite have something of an open marriage as it was politically motivated, and that Amphitrite might even suggest the idea of a threesome with Hela sometime? (But hey, I'm twisted. I can't watch Disney's Little Mermaid anymore without thinking that, as Triton's daughter, Ariel and her sisters would all technically be Percy's nieces.)
Some of the real fun will come in as other gods and goddesses get involved. Percy will gain even more attention than normal here from more players than he does in canon. It should be an interesting ride.
Ah prophecies. Such fun. Of course considering it's Greek mythology, there was probably a Cassandra prophecy somewhere clarifying matters, but... well you know.
Hmm. I like the idea of Persephone and Hades being closer to him. Of course, I like Hades in general ever since I watched Disney's Hercules way back when. I see Hades as being a bit of a recluse, due in part to the nature of his domain and powers, but also in part to how the other gods regard him. So I can see Persephone really pushing for him and Hela to socialize, because it would help in getting Hades out more.
Amora... heh. With 'Sally' trapped but Hela able to watch Percy get trained by Amora, I can easily see a scene where Amora pops back to Asgard, only to get a faceful of wrathful parent demanding to know what she was thinking in teaching ___ to her son.
Open marriage? Sure, go ahead.
Yes, that does sound like fun. I could totally see the Hephaestus half-bloods being totally wowed by his Uru dagger, which then feeds back up to their pops. That could be your way of getting Aphrodite involved, since she's Heph's wife.
Hmm. I like the idea of Persephone and Hades being closer to him. Of course, I like Hades in general ever since I watched Disney's Hercules way back when. I see Hades as being a bit of a recluse, due in part to the nature of his domain and powers, but also in part to how the other gods regard him. So I can see Persephone really pushing for him and Hela to socialize, because it would help in getting Hades out more.
Amora... heh. With 'Sally' trapped but Hela able to watch Percy get trained by Amora, I can easily see a scene where Amora pops back to Asgard, only to get a faceful of wrathful parent demanding to know what she was thinking in teaching ___ to her son.
Open marriage? Sure, go ahead.
Yes, that does sound like fun. I could totally see the Hephaestus half-bloods being totally wowed by his Uru dagger, which then feeds back up to their pops. That could be your way of getting Aphrodite involved, since she's Heph's wife.
Sally will be free long before Amora comes into the picture. Hades let Sally go the second Percy recovered his helm from Ares and returned it to Alecto in canon. Pretty much the same formula here. Once Hades knows that Percy is truly innocent (and he and Hela comparing notes after getting over the initial suspicion of each other means he'll have a good idea of that already) he's not going to force her to stay there.
As for Perspehone encouraging Hades to get out... There is the problem of he's ridiculously busy. He's been know to harp over the subdivisions he has to add to the Asphodel Fields and the extra security he has to hire on more than one occasion. She might like that he has made a friend, especially when she understands there is zero attraction between them, but she knows to pick her battles and Hades is always going to be a workaholic. Hades in Percy Jackson is treated worse than his Disney version (mostly because Zeus is much more of a dick) for several reasons. One happens to be that his kids tend to go evil and share his fatal flaw of holding an grudge. In fact, other than his current kids in PJO and HOO, the last two halfbloods he had were Stalin and Hitler. Think about that and you get a grasp of why other gods tend to be less than pleasant toward him. He usually gets suspected first when something goes wrong because he has a very unpopular job as well.
Something of note that I hadn't thought of as much until now is the fact that Poseidon will not be forbidden from visiting and teaching Percy now. That law applies specifically to mortal kids and Percy isn't one. Percy will be free to visit Atlantis as he likes. Hmm, I'll have to think about that one.
As for Perspehone encouraging Hades to get out... There is the problem of he's ridiculously busy. He's been know to harp over the subdivisions he has to add to the Asphodel Fields and the extra security he has to hire on more than one occasion. She might like that he has made a friend, especially when she understands there is zero attraction between them, but she knows to pick her battles and Hades is always going to be a workaholic. Hades in Percy Jackson is treated worse than his Disney version (mostly because Zeus is much more of a dick) for several reasons. One happens to be that his kids tend to go evil and share his fatal flaw of holding an grudge. In fact, other than his current kids in PJO and HOO, the last two halfbloods he had were Stalin and Hitler. Think about that and you get a grasp of why other gods tend to be less than pleasant toward him. He usually gets suspected first when something goes wrong because he has a very unpopular job as well.
Something of note that I hadn't thought of as much until now is the fact that Poseidon will not be forbidden from visiting and teaching Percy now. That law applies specifically to mortal kids and Percy isn't one. Percy will be free to visit Atlantis as he likes. Hmm, I'll have to think about that one.
Right. Well, as I've said before, I only read the first book and that was years ago, so the timeline of events escapes me.
If Percy doesn't know about his mom yet, I could see Amora coming over and just as she is about to introduce herself, Sally cuts her off and introduces her as her sister. Cue sly smile and shenanigans.
Maybe Hela and Hades could share tips, like what kind of guards they use and what's most effective. Maybe they could even discuss things to make their respective jobs easier. And meh, I don't Percy or Hela, or even Loki, will care, because, well, Loki's kids include Fenrir, Jormungadr, and Hela. I don't think Hades would get too much flak from the Asgard side of things.
Hmm... that is something to consider. Also, since this is Marvel, I have to ask, what of Namor?
If Percy doesn't know about his mom yet, I could see Amora coming over and just as she is about to introduce herself, Sally cuts her off and introduces her as her sister. Cue sly smile and shenanigans.
Maybe Hela and Hades could share tips, like what kind of guards they use and what's most effective. Maybe they could even discuss things to make their respective jobs easier. And meh, I don't Percy or Hela, or even Loki, will care, because, well, Loki's kids include Fenrir, Jormungadr, and Hela. I don't think Hades would get too much flak from the Asgard side of things.
Hmm... that is something to consider. Also, since this is Marvel, I have to ask, what of Namor?
Well since there are established mermen in Percy Jackson that have their own king that answers to Triton, who in turn defers to his father Poseidon, IIRC, there's no reason that Namor couldn't be ruling the "mortal" version of Atlantis. Perhaps the human looking Atlanteans are the sea version of the humans on land even if they are more aware of the gods and a everything as Poseidon is more hands-on than other gods in that respect.
I would be more inclined to think Hela would tell Amora to leave only for Amora to introduce herself as an aunt or "distant cousin" and hang around anyway.
Yeah Percy would no more hold Hitler and Stalin again Hades and his current family here than he did in canon, which is to say not at all. And, other than Loki's get, most Asgardians would probably look down on percy long before they would look down on Hades just because of Percy's association with Loki and his Jotun blood. Aesir are, as a rule, not the most inclusive or accepting people and Loki had a good reason to freak when he learned he was Jotun considering he was raised as an Aesir. If they were more accepting Hela would never have been cast into Nifelheim in the first place. There are exceptional, of course. Thor won't care and neither will Frigga. Percy might grow on Odin after a while assuming Hela will let the old goat anywhere near her son when she has so many issues with him. The Warriors three would most likely take to him rather easily as he is something akin to a more adventurous and outgoing version of Loki when he was young at this point. Sif will likely distrust him and be short with him for the same reason. Amora will adore him and want to mess with his love life as he gets older, which will start her rivalry with Aphrodite over messing with him.
As far as Percy's weapon getting godly attention that leads back to Aphrodite, that is more likely to come from Ares than it is from Hephaestus. Ares and Aphrodite are pretty into their affair right now and she's not overly fond of Hephaestus in PJO canon. Also an Uru dagger will catch serious attention from Ares. This is the same metal that Mjolnir is made of and it is extremely rare. Keep in mind as well that Percy will have to confront and fight Ares to get back Hades' Helm after discovering Ares was behind its theft and the theft of the Master Bolt while being controlled by Kronos. If nothing else the fact Percy is fully divine himself and will likely have Loki and/or Hela in his corner will make Percy defeating Ares to get the Helm at twelve a bit more palatable. I'm even entertaining the thought of great Uncle Thor popping up to save Percy from Ares as Thor would be less inclined than Loki or Hela to gut Ares where he stands and toss him to Nifelheim. Odin might recognize that Thor is, for once, the more diplomatic choice between his sons.
I would be more inclined to think Hela would tell Amora to leave only for Amora to introduce herself as an aunt or "distant cousin" and hang around anyway.
Yeah Percy would no more hold Hitler and Stalin again Hades and his current family here than he did in canon, which is to say not at all. And, other than Loki's get, most Asgardians would probably look down on percy long before they would look down on Hades just because of Percy's association with Loki and his Jotun blood. Aesir are, as a rule, not the most inclusive or accepting people and Loki had a good reason to freak when he learned he was Jotun considering he was raised as an Aesir. If they were more accepting Hela would never have been cast into Nifelheim in the first place. There are exceptional, of course. Thor won't care and neither will Frigga. Percy might grow on Odin after a while assuming Hela will let the old goat anywhere near her son when she has so many issues with him. The Warriors three would most likely take to him rather easily as he is something akin to a more adventurous and outgoing version of Loki when he was young at this point. Sif will likely distrust him and be short with him for the same reason. Amora will adore him and want to mess with his love life as he gets older, which will start her rivalry with Aphrodite over messing with him.
As far as Percy's weapon getting godly attention that leads back to Aphrodite, that is more likely to come from Ares than it is from Hephaestus. Ares and Aphrodite are pretty into their affair right now and she's not overly fond of Hephaestus in PJO canon. Also an Uru dagger will catch serious attention from Ares. This is the same metal that Mjolnir is made of and it is extremely rare. Keep in mind as well that Percy will have to confront and fight Ares to get back Hades' Helm after discovering Ares was behind its theft and the theft of the Master Bolt while being controlled by Kronos. If nothing else the fact Percy is fully divine himself and will likely have Loki and/or Hela in his corner will make Percy defeating Ares to get the Helm at twelve a bit more palatable. I'm even entertaining the thought of great Uncle Thor popping up to save Percy from Ares as Thor would be less inclined than Loki or Hela to gut Ares where he stands and toss him to Nifelheim. Odin might recognize that Thor is, for once, the more diplomatic choice between his sons.
I was more wondering how Sir Ego Namor would deal with God-ruler of Atlantis Poseidon being around.
Hmm... scene idea, Amora rings doorbell, Sally is cooking dinner, tells Percy to get the door while she dries off her hands. Amora says she's looking for Sally, Sally sees her, tries to close door. Amora teleports inside and says, 'is that any way to treat your own family?', cue shenanigans.
I don't think that they weren't accepting of Hela, so much as disturbed by her powers and domain. I think that once the initial horror of having her be goddess of the dead had passed, they'd be glad to have someone like that in their corner. And if you have Frigga talking with Hela about her great-grandson, she can possibly discuss some of the reasoning behind Odin's actions, and maybe cool tensions between him and Hela. Sif will interesting. Especially if Amora and/or Aphrodite decide that she doesn't really dislike Percy (truly or not) and that she's just being a tsundere. Cue more shenanigans.
Right. Forgot he actually went up against Ares. For the battle, I think it would be best used to show Percy reaching out and using every last scrap of power he can access, thus really establishing himself in the minds of both Asgard and Olympus.
Hmm... scene idea, Amora rings doorbell, Sally is cooking dinner, tells Percy to get the door while she dries off her hands. Amora says she's looking for Sally, Sally sees her, tries to close door. Amora teleports inside and says, 'is that any way to treat your own family?', cue shenanigans.
I don't think that they weren't accepting of Hela, so much as disturbed by her powers and domain. I think that once the initial horror of having her be goddess of the dead had passed, they'd be glad to have someone like that in their corner. And if you have Frigga talking with Hela about her great-grandson, she can possibly discuss some of the reasoning behind Odin's actions, and maybe cool tensions between him and Hela. Sif will interesting. Especially if Amora and/or Aphrodite decide that she doesn't really dislike Percy (truly or not) and that she's just being a tsundere. Cue more shenanigans.
Right. Forgot he actually went up against Ares. For the battle, I think it would be best used to show Percy reaching out and using every last scrap of power he can access, thus really establishing himself in the minds of both Asgard and Olympus.
Well Amora isn't really related to Hela in any way. She just happens to be a friend of Loki's. I could easily see her telling Percy to call her "Auntie" or "Big Sis," though. Namor can be Mr Ego-drama all he likes but at the end of the day he's essentially Marvel's answer to Aquaman. And like Aquaman he would have to accept Poseidon's ultimate dominion over the Seas. You do not want Poseidon angry with your when you live in the ocean, especially if you happen to be mortal. Namor would know his place and would probably even defer to Percy as a Prince of the Seas. He'd be snooty as all hell to the average mortal or demigod but he would NOT mouth off to Poseidon, his family, or any of the Big Three.
Especially if Thor takes a shine to him, I could see Sif discovering Amora's "influence" on Percy and eventually trying to counter it but outside of his immediate family Percy will spend more time with Greek gods than he will with Norse. You won't see Tyr, Balder (it's Marvel so he's still alive), Freyr, or Freya hanging around.
Hela was straight up cast out of Asgard and, unlike her brothers, she was not prophesied to help kill everyone in Ragnarok. She's also supposed to be forbidden from leaving Nifelheim, which is how Sally came to be at all. It was Loki's gift to give her some freedom without Heimdall finding out. This whole mess will make several people, including Odin and Frigga, reevaluate how things have always been done. But there will be a fallout from it and it will get unpleasant for a while.
Especially if Thor takes a shine to him, I could see Sif discovering Amora's "influence" on Percy and eventually trying to counter it but outside of his immediate family Percy will spend more time with Greek gods than he will with Norse. You won't see Tyr, Balder (it's Marvel so he's still alive), Freyr, or Freya hanging around.
Hela was straight up cast out of Asgard and, unlike her brothers, she was not prophesied to help kill everyone in Ragnarok. She's also supposed to be forbidden from leaving Nifelheim, which is how Sally came to be at all. It was Loki's gift to give her some freedom without Heimdall finding out. This whole mess will make several people, including Odin and Frigga, reevaluate how things have always been done. But there will be a fallout from it and it will get unpleasant for a while.
I was thinking more in the loose, Asgardian Family thing. Definitely have her have get called Auntie or Big Sis. I can't see Namor being respectful at all to Percy. Forcedly polite, sure, but Percy would have to do something pretty major to get his respect. And please, compared to Aquaman, he's way better.
Heh, I can see Sif trying to eliminate said influence, only to play right into Amora and Aphrodite's schemes. What about Valkyrie?
Hmm. Should be big differences true. Especially if after Loki 'dies' at the end of Thor 1, Odin and Frigga decide that pushing away Loki's daughter and grandson would be in bad taste. Maybe they could lift the restriction on Hela.
Heh, I can see Sif trying to eliminate said influence, only to play right into Amora and Aphrodite's schemes. What about Valkyrie?
Hmm. Should be big differences true. Especially if after Loki 'dies' at the end of Thor 1, Odin and Frigga decide that pushing away Loki's daughter and grandson would be in bad taste. Maybe they could lift the restriction on Hela.
The only thing with Namor is that every sea creature except for those related to him seems to be hardwired for treating Percy like the price he is. And Namor, while extremely powerful, is still a very mortal sea creature. He would NOT risk irritating the young god who's father could literally destroy him with a wave of his hand and has dominion over his entire environment. Namor is arrogant, not stupid.
I really see Amora wanting to keep Sif away from Perrcy just as much as Sif might want to keep Amora away for many of the same reasons. Sif and Amora loathe each other. Part of that is that each wants Thor for herself but they seem naturally made to be anathema to each other much like Aphrodite and Artemis are. If Amora genuinely likes Percy she would try to keep Sif from "ruining" him with her attitude.
I have to wonder if Percy's very existence will impact Avengers much more than anyone would anticipate? By that point Percy will be seventeen, well tested, and most importantly Loki would be well aware of the fact that Hela lives in Manhatten. If part of him losing it was Percy's disappearance and Thor informs him that he's been found I can't see how Loki would willingly launch a Chitauri attack on the doorstep of his daughter and grandson. The fact the seat of Olympus resides above the Empire State Building would be a daunting proposition for him too. Unless Thanos mind-fucked him even worse than I think he did in canon Thor might be able to get through to him and throw the whole invasion on its ear while Loki is still on the Helicarrier.
I really see Amora wanting to keep Sif away from Perrcy just as much as Sif might want to keep Amora away for many of the same reasons. Sif and Amora loathe each other. Part of that is that each wants Thor for herself but they seem naturally made to be anathema to each other much like Aphrodite and Artemis are. If Amora genuinely likes Percy she would try to keep Sif from "ruining" him with her attitude.
I have to wonder if Percy's very existence will impact Avengers much more than anyone would anticipate? By that point Percy will be seventeen, well tested, and most importantly Loki would be well aware of the fact that Hela lives in Manhatten. If part of him losing it was Percy's disappearance and Thor informs him that he's been found I can't see how Loki would willingly launch a Chitauri attack on the doorstep of his daughter and grandson. The fact the seat of Olympus resides above the Empire State Building would be a daunting proposition for him too. Unless Thanos mind-fucked him even worse than I think he did in canon Thor might be able to get through to him and throw the whole invasion on its ear while Loki is still on the Helicarrier.
Oh he'll treat Percy well, but it'll still grate against him.
Heh. Oh yes. Both of them fighting to keep the Percy out of the other's clutches. Sounds amusing.
Hmm. Maybe you could spin it so that part of the Deal with Thanos is that Loki get's Midgard to rule for himself and Hela and Percy, you know, to give Hela a place to go instead staying in Nifleheim. Or just have him so messed up he can't even remember that his daughter had a civilian identity and a son. And Thor never gets a chance to speak to Loki until he gets trapped in the falling prison cell, so unless he wants to reveal to SHIELD that Loki's daughter, the goddess of the dead, is around on earth as well as the whole Greek pantheon who've been mucking about, I don't think he'll speak up right away to Fury in trying to get to speak to Loki. The best turning point would be when he shows up in New York, only to get slapped in the face by his daughter demanding to know what the hell he's thinking.
Mm, found these on the wiki, the first especially I think would fit for Hela revealing herself to Hades:
What I'd be interested in seeing is if any of Hela's nature, as goddess of the dead, carried over to Percy.
Heh. Oh yes. Both of them fighting to keep the Percy out of the other's clutches. Sounds amusing.
Hmm. Maybe you could spin it so that part of the Deal with Thanos is that Loki get's Midgard to rule for himself and Hela and Percy, you know, to give Hela a place to go instead staying in Nifleheim. Or just have him so messed up he can't even remember that his daughter had a civilian identity and a son. And Thor never gets a chance to speak to Loki until he gets trapped in the falling prison cell, so unless he wants to reveal to SHIELD that Loki's daughter, the goddess of the dead, is around on earth as well as the whole Greek pantheon who've been mucking about, I don't think he'll speak up right away to Fury in trying to get to speak to Loki. The best turning point would be when he shows up in New York, only to get slapped in the face by his daughter demanding to know what the hell he's thinking.
Mm, found these on the wiki, the first especially I think would fit for Hela revealing herself to Hades:
What I'd be interested in seeing is if any of Hela's nature, as goddess of the dead, carried over to Percy.
Well it will be a very different encounter with Cerberus than there was in the book. Let's just say Cerberus will smell "home" on Percy much more than he will Annabeth and Grover.
Thor did have some opportunity to speak to Loki when he stole him from the Quinjet over the Black Forest.
"We thought you dead."
"Did you mourn?"
"We all did."
Change that last line to include, "...especially Hela and Percy" and you have a bit wrench in Avengers. If Loki says "Who?" Thor is going to KNOW someone messed with Loki's mind. In fact if Loki does anything but demand information of Percy, where he was, and if he was okay it will send warning bell blazing through Thor's head. Warning bells that he will bring up with his new friends, if not with Fury, because anything that can control Loki's mind is a very dangerous proposition.
Of course this is all far in the future. You have five books/years worth of adventures for Percy, including the final Titan War, before Thor 1 even comes into play.
Thor did have some opportunity to speak to Loki when he stole him from the Quinjet over the Black Forest.
"We thought you dead."
"Did you mourn?"
"We all did."
Change that last line to include, "...especially Hela and Percy" and you have a bit wrench in Avengers. If Loki says "Who?" Thor is going to KNOW someone messed with Loki's mind. In fact if Loki does anything but demand information of Percy, where he was, and if he was okay it will send warning bell blazing through Thor's head. Warning bells that he will bring up with his new friends, if not with Fury, because anything that can control Loki's mind is a very dangerous proposition.
Of course this is all far in the future. You have five books/years worth of adventures for Percy, including the final Titan War, before Thor 1 even comes into play.
Oh yeah. Hmm. I wonder. Could Hela shrink down Garm and then have him as the family dog? And she can make him expand somewhat on command, making Percy familiar with Hel(l)hounds. Because that would make Cerberus even more interesting.
Right. That would certainly bring up big red flags.
And yes, that is getting ahead of ourselves a little bit. ;P
Right. That would certainly bring up big red flags.
And yes, that is getting ahead of ourselves a little bit. ;P
Well as of the end of fourth book Percy inherits Daedalus' tamed Hellhound, Mrs O'Leary, so I can't see why Garm can't be a family pet once Hela has revealed herself. And just imagine the fun of two Hellhounds in the house. I pity Hela's mailman even if Mrs O'leary is an overgrown sweetheart.
You're very right about the red flags. Now picture Frigga's reaction should Odin still try to punish Loki instead of finding out what was wrong with him. Hell, picture Percy and Hela deciding to do something that makes sense to reign Loki in and collecting Sigyn to get HER to talk some sense into him. (Now that I think of it I could easily combine this with my idea where Darcy Lewis is Sigyn in disguise to watch over Jane's research into the theory behind the Bifrost. What? It's not my fault the actress playing Darcy is hotter than hell and has sarcastic wit to match her other attributes.)
I'm kind of stuck on some camper reactions to Percy over time. I feel like Annabeth would still come to care for Percy as at least a friend but I'm just not certain she would fall for him. I could see Eris and Hecate both taking an interest in him once he's older. Would Hela prefer him to pursue a halfblood his own age or a goddess that will share his lifespan? Between the Garden of the Hesperides and Idunn's apples it's not like Percy would lack access to a means to make someone immortal if he wanted to.
And then there is the current Percy Jackson villain to consider: Gaia. As in the Primordial Goddess of the Earth and Thor's biological mother. How would the Asgardians being added to the mix impact THAT particular conflict?
I'm also considering including Marvel's version of Hercules. Mostly because PJO Heracles is a world-class a-hole while Marvel Herc is like a slightly more gregarious and fun-loving version of Thor without Mjolnir.
Another question is which version of Tyson should I include? The book Tyson is in essence and overgrown toddler mentally, which explains why he is still human-sized despite being a Cyclops. Movie Tyson is just naive and accepting of everything around him while being the same size as Percy. Both would defer to their older brother and I have to admit to a fondness for the child-like innocence of the book version.
You're very right about the red flags. Now picture Frigga's reaction should Odin still try to punish Loki instead of finding out what was wrong with him. Hell, picture Percy and Hela deciding to do something that makes sense to reign Loki in and collecting Sigyn to get HER to talk some sense into him. (Now that I think of it I could easily combine this with my idea where Darcy Lewis is Sigyn in disguise to watch over Jane's research into the theory behind the Bifrost. What? It's not my fault the actress playing Darcy is hotter than hell and has sarcastic wit to match her other attributes.)
I'm kind of stuck on some camper reactions to Percy over time. I feel like Annabeth would still come to care for Percy as at least a friend but I'm just not certain she would fall for him. I could see Eris and Hecate both taking an interest in him once he's older. Would Hela prefer him to pursue a halfblood his own age or a goddess that will share his lifespan? Between the Garden of the Hesperides and Idunn's apples it's not like Percy would lack access to a means to make someone immortal if he wanted to.
And then there is the current Percy Jackson villain to consider: Gaia. As in the Primordial Goddess of the Earth and Thor's biological mother. How would the Asgardians being added to the mix impact THAT particular conflict?
I'm also considering including Marvel's version of Hercules. Mostly because PJO Heracles is a world-class a-hole while Marvel Herc is like a slightly more gregarious and fun-loving version of Thor without Mjolnir.
Another question is which version of Tyson should I include? The book Tyson is in essence and overgrown toddler mentally, which explains why he is still human-sized despite being a Cyclops. Movie Tyson is just naive and accepting of everything around him while being the same size as Percy. Both would defer to their older brother and I have to admit to a fondness for the child-like innocence of the book version.
Two Hellhounds. Oh boy.
I think, knowing he's been mindfucked, that Odin would be much more lenient with Loki.
Darcy as Sigyn? Yes. The only thing missing is for Sally and Darcy to have met at some point while completely missing just who they met.
Well, you can have a bit of triangle (or square in this case... I think...) with him for a bit. I think that Hela would prefer to go after a goddess, because her son deserves the best.
Gaia. Hmm. Not sure. Be interesting I suppose, especially if Thor shows up.
Do that. Sounds like a lot more fun.
Tyson? I am unfamiliar with Tyson.
Edit: You know, I think this deserves it's own thread by now...
I think, knowing he's been mindfucked, that Odin would be much more lenient with Loki.
Darcy as Sigyn? Yes. The only thing missing is for Sally and Darcy to have met at some point while completely missing just who they met.
Well, you can have a bit of triangle (or square in this case... I think...) with him for a bit. I think that Hela would prefer to go after a goddess, because her son deserves the best.
Gaia. Hmm. Not sure. Be interesting I suppose, especially if Thor shows up.
Do that. Sounds like a lot more fun.
Tyson? I am unfamiliar with Tyson.
Edit: You know, I think this deserves it's own thread by now...
Tyson was introduced in the second book and the second movie. He's the youngest Cyclops son of Poseidon, with a Cyclops being the result of a god sleeping with the naiad or nereid. In the book Tyson was a "homeless kid" that Percy's overly progressive new school "adopted" to make themselves feel better. (The mist kept everyone, including Percy, from realizing he was a Cyclops.) Percy was the only one to treat him well and when Annabeth showed up to collect Percy he couldn't figure out why she was being bitchy toward his friend just because he was poor. You later find out Tyson was an abandoned Cyclops son of Poseidon (Poseidon claimed him at camp so he could stay in Percy's cabin) that gravitated toward Percy because of Percy;s connection to their father. He had inadvertently been keeping any monsters from bothering Percy all year. At the end of the book he is taken to the Cyclops forces to be with his own kind and after the fifth book he is named a general of the Cyclops army to deal with threats to Olympus.
In the movie he just arrived at camp half blood and while he is still naive and a little slow he is still like a slightly mentally older version of his book self. Either way he adores Percy as his brother and would do anything Percy asked of him without a second thought. All he really wants is family. He's also close to all of Percy's friends after the adjustment period of getting over the fact he's a Cyclops. It's kind of hard not to like the guy when he literally doesn't seem to have a mean bone in his body. I'm just on the fence on whether it should be the toddler-minded book version or the slightly older mentally movie version to use. Either way I can't see Percy not adopting him on the spot even without knowing they are half-brothers.
As cool as it would be for Sally and Darcy to meet there are two factors there. One, Sigyn/Darcy would still be on Asgard for at least another year or two before becoming Jane's intern. Two, Jane and Darcy are in New Mexico while Sally is in New York and has never really left the area because Percy. That's not to say Sigyn might not show up to see her new grandchild (which I think would irritate Hela since I can't see her being close to Loki's second wife) but there were no accidental meetings before that.
Or I could just link to this.
In the movie he just arrived at camp half blood and while he is still naive and a little slow he is still like a slightly mentally older version of his book self. Either way he adores Percy as his brother and would do anything Percy asked of him without a second thought. All he really wants is family. He's also close to all of Percy's friends after the adjustment period of getting over the fact he's a Cyclops. It's kind of hard not to like the guy when he literally doesn't seem to have a mean bone in his body. I'm just on the fence on whether it should be the toddler-minded book version or the slightly older mentally movie version to use. Either way I can't see Percy not adopting him on the spot even without knowing they are half-brothers.
As cool as it would be for Sally and Darcy to meet there are two factors there. One, Sigyn/Darcy would still be on Asgard for at least another year or two before becoming Jane's intern. Two, Jane and Darcy are in New Mexico while Sally is in New York and has never really left the area because Percy. That's not to say Sigyn might not show up to see her new grandchild (which I think would irritate Hela since I can't see her being close to Loki's second wife) but there were no accidental meetings before that.
Or I could just link to this.
Ah. Alright. Go movie version, it sounds like one you could do more with.
And point. Hmm. Yeah, I can't think of a way pre-Avengers for the two to meet. But maybe at the end you could have Darcy show up as Loki is being brought back to Asgard, Thor looking confused as to what Jane's friend is doing there, only to get pushed aside as Darcy/Sigyn grabs Loki and pulls him down by his ear so that she can properly rant at him.
And point. Hmm. Yeah, I can't think of a way pre-Avengers for the two to meet. But maybe at the end you could have Darcy show up as Loki is being brought back to Asgard, Thor looking confused as to what Jane's friend is doing there, only to get pushed aside as Darcy/Sigyn grabs Loki and pulls him down by his ear so that she can properly rant at him.
It gets so much easier to write Sigyn where you see a Darcy without her glasses and dressed in Asgardian robes standing there.
Although Loki was happy to walk out of the arch with Percy, he made sure to warn his new-found grandchild to be discreet about mentioning their relation to each other before taking his leave. He also made certain to leave a clone of himself transformed into a sparrow watching Percy and his friends while cloaked in seidr to be doubly certain he could watch them without being discovered. After all, it would not be to anyone's benefit to notice Loki watching the trio too closely.
He also needed to teleport himself back to Asgard to gather his thoughts. the very notion of having a grandchild after all this time was a heady one for him indeed.
Loki appeared in his chambers in the Royal Palace in a gout of green flame as he tended to do when not cloaking himself and noted that Sigyn was there waiting for him. She was reading again, this time some popular magazines from Midgard. From what Loki was told the Allfather had a special project for her in the next couple of years that was to be kept quiet and she needed to study up on Midgard as part of it.
Sigyn looked up at her husband with concern as she asked, "Loki, you look worried. What is it?"
"Whatever do you mean?" Loki asked with feigned innocence. "I am perfectly fine."
Sigyn's face took on a sarcasticly knowing expression that most of Asgard would believe her incapable of as she replied, "I think I know you well enough to know when you're troubled, husband. You can't hide anything from me. Now what has you looking so upset?"
Loki met her gaze for all of a minute before sighing loudly to himself and giving a tired chuckle as he asked, "Whatever happened to the quiet and blushing maiden I first courted that all of Asgard believes incapable of having an ill thought toward anyone?"
"You learned she just kept her mouth shut to keep from dealing with idiots like Theoric and that she had a brain in her head that actually attracted you far more than her generous chest did," Sigyn noted without wavering in her expression.
"True enough. I think Thor and his little band would go to pieces if they knew you even half as well as I do, my dear wife," Loki acknowledged with a smile.
"Hogun would be fine. And Sif would probably accuse you of doing something to corrupt me," Darcy noted with a wry grin.
"But nothing that you do not thoroughly enjoy at every opportunity," Loki responded lasciviously.
Sigyn shook her head as she noted, "And now you are trying to use sex to distract me instead of just telling me what is bothering you. This must be big to have you so concerned. Should I be getting ready to greet the guards before the Allfather has you imprisoned for a few years?"
Loki seemed to slump in his seat and she shoo his head and replied, "It is not anything I did this time. I discovered something that will have most of the Realm Eternal up in arms soon, though."
"What could that be? I thought you were tracking down the source of that odd prayer you sensed?" Sigyn asked.
"It seems I have more family, blood family at that, than I knew about. It was my... grandson that sent the prayer," Loki explained.
"Grandson? But how could you possibly...? No. You mean to say Hela of all goddesses?" Sigyn asked as he eyes lit in realization.
"Indeed," Loki confirmed tiredly.
"But how? I mean she is confined to Nifelheim," Sigyn insisted.
"I... may have taught her to create a duplicate shade of herself. And how to walk the old paths without a Bifrost. And... perhaps how to avoid Heimdall's eyes. Just as birthday presents, mind you," Loki explained with a mischievous grin, thoroughly proud of what he had done.
Sigyn tried to remain stern for a few moments before breaking down into a kind grin as she moved in and kissed her husband on the cheek. "You are a good and loving father, Loki. I'm glad you could give her at least some degree of freedom. So I assume the child she mothered is some kind of demigod?"
"Well, that's what he believes at the moment," Loki noted with a grimace.
"Why do I get the feeling this is going to give me a headache if I ask?" Sigyn queried.
"Because you have lived with me far too long," Loki replied knowingly.
"And I would not trade a moment of it for anything. Now what did you mean when you said our new grandson thought he was a demigod?" Sigyn asked.
"Our grandson?" Loki asked with a raised brow.
"Just because I did not give birth to Hela does not make me any less her stepmother. I am still you wife and your grandchildren become mine as well. Now tell me about my grandson before I decide to pop down to Midgard myself and ask HIM what all the fuss is about," Sigyn commanded.
Loki sighed and shook his head ruefully before he said, "Apparently my little girls likes to aim high in terms of consorts. Her shade apparently caught the eye of Poseidon himself and young Perseus was the result. Not that the child had any idea. Apparently she told his her line was descended from me without telling just how closely the family lines really are."
"Lying without really lying. She does take after you, doesn't she?" Sigyn asked with a smile.
"Quite. She used it as an excuse to explain her seidr which she taught him while pretending to be mortal. He only learned about Poseidon being his father within the last month," Loki noted. "Apparently she was accused to stealing that oaf Zeus' Master Bolt and his mother was somehow captured by Hades in the conflict. He is on the way to the Underworld to presumably retrieve his mother and the bolt together."
Sigyn looked pensive as she noted, "That sounds a bit dangerous. How old is he?"
"He's twelve by the local reckoning..." Loki began.
"TWELVE?! And you LET him go? Are you insane? He's just a child!" Sigyn exclaimed.
"It was a formal quest from the Olympians. I already dispatched the monsters bothering him at the moment and I have a shade of my own watching him and his little friends. He will be safe enough until he enters the Underworld," Loki assured her as he raised his hands in a calming gesture.
"And what about when he gets there?" Sigyn demanded, fully aware that Loki could not enter another divine Realm like that without permission.
"Hela will watch out for him, then, I am certain. Much like me she can fully manifest herself wherever one of her shades is present. Should Percy's paternal Uncle get too bothersome he will have her to contend with and she is easily a match for Hades," Loki promised.
Sigyn stared at her husband for a full minute before she noted, "You had a shade hiding ON our grandson in the form of a bug or something, don't you?"
Loki laughed as he cupped Sigyn's chin and kissed her gently before he replied, "As I said, my love, you know me too well."
"He will sense you Loki, and he will blame the boy," Sigyn warned.
"I find your lack of faith in my abilities insulting," Lokie replied with an affronted air.
"This had better not blow up in your face, husband. I will be very cross with you if my new grandchild is harmed before I have a chance to spoil him," Sigyn warned.
"I can assure you I would bring ruin and destruction to all of Olympus and the Underworld before I allowed that to happen. But I can't very well interfere in the boy's quest unless there is no choice. How could I deny him his adventure when I was doing the same with Thor at his age?" Loki asked.
"Fair enough. I suppose you will be looking for an audience with Hela in the meantime, then?" Sigyn asked.
Loki nodded once in agreement with her question.
"Tell her I would like the chance to meet me grandson. I will not have much time before I am busy with the task the Allfather asks of me but I still want to know my first grandchild," Sigyn informed him.
"I shall relay the message to her. Once we are done discussing her penchant for hiding important information from her father, of course," Loki promised with a hard look in his eye. Oh yes, he and Hela were going to have quite the conversation very soon.
Although Loki was happy to walk out of the arch with Percy, he made sure to warn his new-found grandchild to be discreet about mentioning their relation to each other before taking his leave. He also made certain to leave a clone of himself transformed into a sparrow watching Percy and his friends while cloaked in seidr to be doubly certain he could watch them without being discovered. After all, it would not be to anyone's benefit to notice Loki watching the trio too closely.
He also needed to teleport himself back to Asgard to gather his thoughts. the very notion of having a grandchild after all this time was a heady one for him indeed.
Loki appeared in his chambers in the Royal Palace in a gout of green flame as he tended to do when not cloaking himself and noted that Sigyn was there waiting for him. She was reading again, this time some popular magazines from Midgard. From what Loki was told the Allfather had a special project for her in the next couple of years that was to be kept quiet and she needed to study up on Midgard as part of it.
Sigyn looked up at her husband with concern as she asked, "Loki, you look worried. What is it?"
"Whatever do you mean?" Loki asked with feigned innocence. "I am perfectly fine."
Sigyn's face took on a sarcasticly knowing expression that most of Asgard would believe her incapable of as she replied, "I think I know you well enough to know when you're troubled, husband. You can't hide anything from me. Now what has you looking so upset?"
Loki met her gaze for all of a minute before sighing loudly to himself and giving a tired chuckle as he asked, "Whatever happened to the quiet and blushing maiden I first courted that all of Asgard believes incapable of having an ill thought toward anyone?"
"You learned she just kept her mouth shut to keep from dealing with idiots like Theoric and that she had a brain in her head that actually attracted you far more than her generous chest did," Sigyn noted without wavering in her expression.
"True enough. I think Thor and his little band would go to pieces if they knew you even half as well as I do, my dear wife," Loki acknowledged with a smile.
"Hogun would be fine. And Sif would probably accuse you of doing something to corrupt me," Darcy noted with a wry grin.
"But nothing that you do not thoroughly enjoy at every opportunity," Loki responded lasciviously.
Sigyn shook her head as she noted, "And now you are trying to use sex to distract me instead of just telling me what is bothering you. This must be big to have you so concerned. Should I be getting ready to greet the guards before the Allfather has you imprisoned for a few years?"
Loki seemed to slump in his seat and she shoo his head and replied, "It is not anything I did this time. I discovered something that will have most of the Realm Eternal up in arms soon, though."
"What could that be? I thought you were tracking down the source of that odd prayer you sensed?" Sigyn asked.
"It seems I have more family, blood family at that, than I knew about. It was my... grandson that sent the prayer," Loki explained.
"Grandson? But how could you possibly...? No. You mean to say Hela of all goddesses?" Sigyn asked as he eyes lit in realization.
"Indeed," Loki confirmed tiredly.
"But how? I mean she is confined to Nifelheim," Sigyn insisted.
"I... may have taught her to create a duplicate shade of herself. And how to walk the old paths without a Bifrost. And... perhaps how to avoid Heimdall's eyes. Just as birthday presents, mind you," Loki explained with a mischievous grin, thoroughly proud of what he had done.
Sigyn tried to remain stern for a few moments before breaking down into a kind grin as she moved in and kissed her husband on the cheek. "You are a good and loving father, Loki. I'm glad you could give her at least some degree of freedom. So I assume the child she mothered is some kind of demigod?"
"Well, that's what he believes at the moment," Loki noted with a grimace.
"Why do I get the feeling this is going to give me a headache if I ask?" Sigyn queried.
"Because you have lived with me far too long," Loki replied knowingly.
"And I would not trade a moment of it for anything. Now what did you mean when you said our new grandson thought he was a demigod?" Sigyn asked.
"Our grandson?" Loki asked with a raised brow.
"Just because I did not give birth to Hela does not make me any less her stepmother. I am still you wife and your grandchildren become mine as well. Now tell me about my grandson before I decide to pop down to Midgard myself and ask HIM what all the fuss is about," Sigyn commanded.
Loki sighed and shook his head ruefully before he said, "Apparently my little girls likes to aim high in terms of consorts. Her shade apparently caught the eye of Poseidon himself and young Perseus was the result. Not that the child had any idea. Apparently she told his her line was descended from me without telling just how closely the family lines really are."
"Lying without really lying. She does take after you, doesn't she?" Sigyn asked with a smile.
"Quite. She used it as an excuse to explain her seidr which she taught him while pretending to be mortal. He only learned about Poseidon being his father within the last month," Loki noted. "Apparently she was accused to stealing that oaf Zeus' Master Bolt and his mother was somehow captured by Hades in the conflict. He is on the way to the Underworld to presumably retrieve his mother and the bolt together."
Sigyn looked pensive as she noted, "That sounds a bit dangerous. How old is he?"
"He's twelve by the local reckoning..." Loki began.
"TWELVE?! And you LET him go? Are you insane? He's just a child!" Sigyn exclaimed.
"It was a formal quest from the Olympians. I already dispatched the monsters bothering him at the moment and I have a shade of my own watching him and his little friends. He will be safe enough until he enters the Underworld," Loki assured her as he raised his hands in a calming gesture.
"And what about when he gets there?" Sigyn demanded, fully aware that Loki could not enter another divine Realm like that without permission.
"Hela will watch out for him, then, I am certain. Much like me she can fully manifest herself wherever one of her shades is present. Should Percy's paternal Uncle get too bothersome he will have her to contend with and she is easily a match for Hades," Loki promised.
Sigyn stared at her husband for a full minute before she noted, "You had a shade hiding ON our grandson in the form of a bug or something, don't you?"
Loki laughed as he cupped Sigyn's chin and kissed her gently before he replied, "As I said, my love, you know me too well."
"He will sense you Loki, and he will blame the boy," Sigyn warned.
"I find your lack of faith in my abilities insulting," Lokie replied with an affronted air.
"This had better not blow up in your face, husband. I will be very cross with you if my new grandchild is harmed before I have a chance to spoil him," Sigyn warned.
"I can assure you I would bring ruin and destruction to all of Olympus and the Underworld before I allowed that to happen. But I can't very well interfere in the boy's quest unless there is no choice. How could I deny him his adventure when I was doing the same with Thor at his age?" Loki asked.
"Fair enough. I suppose you will be looking for an audience with Hela in the meantime, then?" Sigyn asked.
Loki nodded once in agreement with her question.
"Tell her I would like the chance to meet me grandson. I will not have much time before I am busy with the task the Allfather asks of me but I still want to know my first grandchild," Sigyn informed him.
"I shall relay the message to her. Once we are done discussing her penchant for hiding important information from her father, of course," Loki promised with a hard look in his eye. Oh yes, he and Hela were going to have quite the conversation very soon.