Miscellaneous ideas topic.

Pale Wolf · Oct 9, 2008

Why unnumbered? There are plenty of numbers that aren't actually taken

Sounds kinda like Einnashe. It's like there's someone explicitly trying to bitchslap the Church's 'if it killed the last DA to have that rank and semi-sorta has something to do with blood and/or vampires, it's the new Dead Apostle Ancestor!' policy and show how retarded it can get

That said, how would you explain Dracula? Vlad Tepes wasn't actually a vampire in Nasuverse, Wallachia acts like Dracula just because he's manifesting the rumour/myth of him...

GenocideHeart · Oct 9, 2008

Pale Wolf said:

That's why I mentioned that Castlevania wasn't always Dracula's castle - at least three other individuals controlled it in addition to him. Walter Bernhard in Lament of Innocence, Brauner in Portrait of Ruin, and Graham Jones in Aria of Sorrow.

While it is true that Castlevania's PREFERRED master is Dracula, it's clearly not the only one, and the castle will pick other vampires as its masters if Drac isn't available.

Pale Wolf · Oct 10, 2008

Ah, just thinking of including the castle, not Drac?

Shaderic · Oct 10, 2008

That seems to be the plan, seeing as the castle can pretty much come out anywhere, from eastern europe, to a japanese shrine, so it shouldn't be too hard for it to manifest in whatever city (can't remember the name) tsukihime happens in.
I wonder if Soma should show up? I mean, it's technicaly 'his' castle, so him sort of being drawn to it would make sense. But, seems like GH is just suggesting importing the castle, which is big enough can of worms by itself.

Pale Wolf · Oct 10, 2008

Masaki City. And yeah, importing Soma is a whole new can of worms, since you have to squeeze in all the Castlevania backstory, which is really goddamn difficult.

Hm. Magical super-teleporting castle that can appear anywhere. Sounds somewhat like the Brunestud Millenium Castle, actually.

GenocideHeart · Oct 10, 2008

Yeah, fitting the Castlevania history in Tsukihime would be headache-inducing. The castle with its more common denizens can fit without too much fuss in it, but Soma, the Belmonts and especially Dracula would break the Nasuverse's own storyline something fierce, since at the very least Dracula shouldn't be there at all.

On the other hand, Galamoth should fit in just FINE. :evil2:

Also, there ARE similarities between Brunestud's castle and Castlevania, but last I checked the Millennium Castle doesn't thoroughly enjoy causing as much chaos as possible...

AkinaAE86 · Oct 17, 2008

Gurren Lagann + Kanokon.

Yoko and Nia fighting over Simon..

The Black Sisters judging various battles.

Overall extreme perversions.

This is the result of watching TTGL and Kanokon in succesion.

Aranfan · Oct 17, 2008

Akina, what the hell is your sig?

AkinaAE86 · Oct 17, 2008

..Revy, Balalaika, Roberta. Black Lagoon.

Do you.. not know of its epic nature?

Aranfan · Oct 17, 2008

What's Black Lagoon?

Watashiwa · Oct 17, 2008

Aranfan said:

*dives out of the way of the upcoming explanation rant*

h43r:

*pulls out popcorn*

I've always wondered why people like that series. It just never attracted me... Anyway, the manga is HERE if you're interested, so take a look of your own. Akina, feel free to explain what it is about BL that attracts you.

PCHeintz72 · Oct 17, 2008

Aranfan said:

Shrugs... if you do not mind violence and guns, and love reading of the crime underworld, Black Lagoon might be for you.

Anime Description
'Black Lagoon (TV)' by Madhouse-Geneon

[Direct] http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encycloped...ime.php?id=6159

Manga Description
'Black Lagoon' by Shogakukan Productions

[Direct] http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encycloped...nga.php?id=6158

Manga on-line scanlation
'Black Lagoon' by Multiple - [Status=Not Complete] - [Last Dld=09/05/2008] - [Size=409197kb]

[Direct] http://www.onemanga.com/Black_Lagoon/

AMV's
A M V Category -- Black Lagoon

[Direct] http://www.animemusicvideos.org/search/sup...recent=on&go=go

I'll warn, it does not appeal to everyone. I myself like the art, the characters, and the overall plot, but the violence and death for me is a bit of a turn off.

EDIT:

I've wondered that myself about some series... far more than this one. TTGL comes to mind, as to me, TTGL has no redeeming qualities.

AkinaAE86 · Oct 17, 2008

Watashiwa said:

^Points to links for reference.

And how can it have no redeeming qualities? But i will not rant, as there is only one manga I will rant about, sadly this is not it.

Black Lagoon is just general epic awesome. There are really just two reasons to read/watch it.

One: For the overall awesome violence that goes on in every freaking chapter. You got the Awesome Russian Mafia, Terminator maids, psychotic and homicidal loli/shota twins..

Two: It points a big finger at the darkness and evil that goes on the world. (The twins arc is all you need to prove that.)

Okay three reasons: It has a hot invincible/indestructible now insane Terminator maid.. How can you not go wrong with that?

Luthorne · Oct 17, 2008

He didn't say it didn't have any redeeming qualities, just that it never attracted him. You can recognize that yes, something has redeeming qualities, but that still doesn't make you interested in it, after all.

...personally, I still haven't bothered to check it out, because the premise doesn't seem very interesting to me. :mellow:

PCHeintz72 · Oct 17, 2008

Clarification if you meant the last sentance of my prior post.

And.

Luthorne said:

I meant TTGL, not Black Lagoon. I edited my post to make that point abundantly clear.

AkinaAE86 · Oct 17, 2008

Ah yeah.. i noticed it now.

Hm.. well i'm more into seinen manga than shounen (Initial D, Black Lagoon, Trigun etc)

I like the premise, the storyline and the characters. I'd put it above some shounen manga.

It's just awesome when someone's head gets pounded into literal bloody paste.

Amodelsino · Oct 17, 2008

AkinaAE86 said:

You mention seinen and then not Berserk or Hellsing? I mean, in plot, character and pretty much everything else they both own the shit out of Black Lagoon (and Initial D doesn't even deserve to be compared).

Though, I will say that some of the character development in BL was better than Hellsing's. Berserk is still superior to both.

PCHeintz72 · Oct 17, 2008

Amodelsino said:

You know... it is all a matter of opinioon... Hellsing, Black Lagoon, and for example Elfen Lied all had angst, killing, blood and gore. Each had different things emphasized through their respective series.

I would add the new series called Shikabane Hime to the list, anime and manga, though differing plots, both are IMHO pretty good.

GenocideHeart · Oct 17, 2008

Why mention Berserk and not Claymore? :angry:

Amodelsino · Oct 17, 2008

GenocideHeart said:

Because Berserk is better than Claymore.

Fair point though, as Claymore is also better than Initial D and at least as good as Black Lagoon.

GenocideHeart · Oct 17, 2008

Amodelsino said:

That's your opinion, not mine. I find Claymore to be about a zillion times better than Berserk. <_<

Amodelsino · Oct 17, 2008

GenocideHeart said:

Meh, it's good, I just don't find the characters very engaging, and thus it makes what would normally be awesome feel somewhat lackluster.

You're right though, that is opinion, but so is everything in relation to how good a manga is, so saying "that's your opinion" makes no sense. Some people like the plot of One Piece, just as some like the plot of Naruto, despite both being rather badly thought out.

AkinaAE86 · Oct 17, 2008

Amodelsino said:

AkinaAE86 said:

You mention seinen and then not Berserk or Hellsing? I mean, in plot, character and pretty much everything else they both own the shit out of Black Lagoon (and Initial D doesn't even deserve to be compared).

Though, I will say that some of the character development in BL was better than Hellsing's. Berserk is still superior to both.

You do reliaze i said etc....And why the hell can't Initial D be compared?!

It's the first manga i ever read...

Seriously it's like everybody here hates it. :huh:

Amodelsino · Oct 17, 2008

AkinaAE86 said:

You're free to like whatever manga you want to like, I just don't think Initial D has anything about it that means it could be considered 'good'. Especially when comparing it to series that have good plot, interesting characters and usually pretty good character development. Even the art of Initial D isn't all that great, not when we're talking seinen.

To me, Initial D is a 'meh' series. It doesn't interest me enough for me to hate it.

Luthorne · Oct 17, 2008

...I have no real opinion on Initial D...never having read it. I've looked into it, but it sounds incredibly uninteresting to me...then again, I don't really like cars, beyond a means to get from Point A to Point B, so. A bus is just as good as a car, to me...better, right now, actually, since my workplace has a deal with the city buses that let me ride for free. Tell me when they make a car racing manga that operates like Mario Kart or something, and I might be interested. But just car racing as the premise to a manga...hell, I'd rather read about bike racing.

...but, that's just me. You can still enjoy it, having different tastes than me, no doubt...

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