My Little Pony: FIM

Souffle

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#51
That's just some crappy fan picture.

I for one look forward to more Berry

 

jwolf0

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#52
<a href='https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pOHVhjEBcjSpgKgFFqhMT318-4qJ6h5wDGEijFW-w6E/edit?hl=en_US' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Fallout: Equestria 39</a> is up.

GODDAMMIT. You knew it had to happen sometime, but...

Goddammit.
 
#53
Hey look, season 2 preview <a href='http://www.wired.com/underwire/2011/09/my-little-pony-season-two-clip/' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>here.</a> Q.
 

Ordo

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#54
......so when Q's not tormenting/helping Star Fleet crews he's messing with the little ponies....

Brace yourselves we'll be seeing a massive infux of MLP/Star Trek: TNG fanfiction after this one.

Edit:

Though I must admit, the idea of Rarity's father (or Grandfather) showing up at episoes end voice by Patrick Stewart would lend the whole thing even more awesome.

Father: "Discord! What the devil are you up to now?!"
 

Kenko

Well-Known Member
#55
Ordo said:
......so when Q's not tormenting/helping Star Fleet crews he's messing with the little ponies....

Brace yourselves we'll be seeing a massive infux of MLP/Star Trek: TNG fanfiction after this one.

Edit:

Though I must admit, the idea of Rarity's father (or Grandfather) showing up at episoes end voice by Patrick Stewart would lend the whole thing even more awesome.

Father: "Discord! What the devil are you up to now?!"
Or even worse...

"Mister Datebar, have you any ideas on this?"

"None sir. Except that he appears to a rather chaotic almagam of... well... almost anything imaginable. And a few things, that frankly, are not."

**sigh** "Mister Hiker?"

"I guess we have the usual jerk we've been annoyed by. He's just decided to go after a new generation."

"Of course. Mister Woof?"

The wolf-- alone in the crew-- snarled. "I say we bite him."

"That's your solution to everything," noted Goodie La'forge.

"And it usually works," noted the wolf.
 

Shiakou

Well-Known Member
#56
Kenko said:
Ordo said:
......so when Q's not tormenting/helping Star Fleet crews he's messing with the little ponies....

Brace yourselves we'll be seeing a massive infux of MLP/Star Trek: TNG fanfiction after this one.

Edit:

Though I must admit, the idea of Rarity's father (or Grandfather) showing up at episoes end voice by Patrick Stewart would lend the whole thing even more awesome.

Father: "Discord! What the devil are you up to now?!"
Or even worse...

"Mister Datebar, have you any ideas on this?"

"None sir. Except that he appears to a rather chaotic almagam of... well... almost anything imaginable. And a few things, that frankly, are not."

**sigh** "Mister Hiker?"

"I guess we have the usual jerk we've been annoyed by. He's just decided to go after a new generation."

"Of course. Mister Woof?"

The wolf-- alone in the crew-- snarled. "I say we bite him."

"That's your solution to everything," noted Goodie La'forge.

"And it usually works," noted the wolf.
. . . FUND IT!
 
#57
I totally forgot season two starts today. It's on right now, I found it while channel surfing. Awesome.
 

Ordo

Well-Known Member
#58
Twilight: "All right Discord, you want me gone....well here I am!"

Discord: Looking aghast "Get rid of you?" leans forward grinning from ear to ear "What would I do with out you? Pester Bald ship Captains and their crews?"

****

Vanity: Smiling at our little green dragon as she trots closer "Are you familiar with lip locking?"

Spike: backing up until a wall stops him "if...you are rfeering to kissing I am...aware. I've...ah...read many of Twilights books on the subject...."

Vanity: favors the dragon with a predatory grin as he remains trapped against the wall "And how long has it been since you've used that knowledge?

Spike: frowns as he thinks about "Well...um....I think..." eyes go wide as she zooms her head in.

Vanity: "Far too long." she whisper before kissing him

****

Twilight: Glaring at Dicord "I am NOT a parent."

Discord: Shrugs as he floats beside her "Maybe not biologically, but you're certainly a mother to these girls. Look at how fast you house broke the Dragon.
Points to Rarity for almost shaking off Discords Magic, and points to Fluttershy for managing to piss him off to that level.

All right, like encounter at far point, the test never ends, in fact it's obvious that Discord has more in store for them, though I do wonder why did he avoid messing with Twilight Sparkle? I mean every other pony he bazenly messed with but her....he left her alone, odd.
 

Chuckg

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#59
To quote poster 'Ryan' from the Equestria Daily comment thread on this episode:

Ryan said:
I think a lot of people are missing the bigger picture here. Discord isn't trying to corrupt all of the elements of harmony, just one: Twilight's. He's not tricking anypony, he's tormenting them and then using them as puppets to make Twilight feel like her friendships are falling apart. It's not about them, it's about her.

Let's look at the rather deft use of imagery throughout the episode. Discord is portrayed as a puppeteer, in the stained glass windows and again in the "Grove of Truth" scene. I think this is meant to be taken literally: he's not manipulating the ponies into abandoning their elements, he's using them as puppets. When he "possesses" them or whatever he's doing, their color drains away. They lose something vital: free will, or the ability to make their own choices, or whatever it is that makes them who they are, however you define it. They do what he wants, even if he doesn't have a direct mind control link.

This raises an important question: if Discord is a puppeteer, who is the puppet show meant for? I think it's pretty obviously Twilight. At the end of Applejack's scene, he could have chosen to reunite her with any of the others, but he chose Twilight because he wants her to see her friends at their worst. Likewise, after each scene, as another pony rejoins the group, it's Twilight who reacts to her changed behavior. The writers take the time to show us her reaction, and in a 22-minute episode about six characters with a whole mess of backstory, that's quite a red flag. Those reactions are important.

But what about Dash? Doesn't he offer her a choice? No. He's really just feeding her a cue. We know that Dash wouldn't choose to abandon her friends when Cloudsdale is in danger because she didn't do it earlier when Clooudsdale was having a nasty cola storm. She stayed in Ponyville to help them clean up the cotton candy clouds. She doesn't really have the choice, he's just using her to make another wrinkle.

What's the point of all the theatrics, then, if he's just hypnotizing them? Why bother to lure Applejack to the Grove of Truth, or make Pinkie Pie doubt her laughter in the balloon park, or show Rarity the illusion of the diamonds? Because he's sadistic, and he's playing with them. He only loses his cool and zaps Fluttershy because she's ruining his fun. He's just bucking with them. Because he can. This isn't a game; there aren't any rules; he's not really giving them a choice. He's just torturing them. For fun.

Granted, I can't really offer a full reading of the show because, like the rest of you, I've only seen half of it so far, but I think that the whole point of this has been to get to Twilight. She's the one who felt the "spark" of friendship in Season 1 Episode 2, which makes her the weak link. Discord isn't really a trickster; he's a bad dude who's trying to extinguish that spark by using Twilight's friends against her. If he is playing a game with them, he's using Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity, Fluttershy and Dash as the pieces, and Twilight Sparkle is his true opponent.
 

akun50

Well-Known Member
#61
Chuckg said:
To quote poster 'Ryan' from the Equestria Daily comment thread on this episode:

Ryan said:
I think a lot of people are missing the bigger picture here. Discord isn't trying to corrupt all of the elements of harmony, just one: Twilight's. He's not tricking anypony, he's tormenting them and then using them as puppets to make Twilight feel like her friendships are falling apart. It's not about them, it's about her.

Let's look at the rather deft use of imagery throughout the episode. Discord is portrayed as a puppeteer, in the stained glass windows and again in the "Grove of Truth" scene. I think this is meant to be taken literally: he's not manipulating the ponies into abandoning their elements, he's using them as puppets. When he "possesses" them or whatever he's doing, their color drains away. They lose something vital: free will, or the ability to make their own choices, or whatever it is that makes them who they are, however you define it. They do what he wants, even if he doesn't have a direct mind control link.

This raises an important question: if Discord is a puppeteer, who is the puppet show meant for? I think it's pretty obviously Twilight. At the end of Applejack's scene, he could have chosen to reunite her with any of the others, but he chose Twilight because he wants her to see her friends at their worst. Likewise, after each scene, as another pony rejoins the group, it's Twilight who reacts to her changed behavior. The writers take the time to show us her reaction, and in a 22-minute episode about six characters with a whole mess of backstory, that's quite a red flag. Those reactions are important.

But what about Dash? Doesn't he offer her a choice? No. He's really just feeding her a cue. We know that Dash wouldn't choose to abandon her friends when Cloudsdale is in danger because she didn't do it earlier when Clooudsdale was having a nasty cola storm. She stayed in Ponyville to help them clean up the cotton candy clouds. She doesn't really have the choice, he's just using her to make another wrinkle.

What's the point of all the theatrics, then, if he's just hypnotizing them? Why bother to lure Applejack to the Grove of Truth, or make Pinkie Pie doubt her laughter in the balloon park, or show Rarity the illusion of the diamonds? Because he's sadistic, and he's playing with them. He only loses his cool and zaps Fluttershy because she's ruining his fun. He's just bucking with them. Because he can. This isn't a game; there aren't any rules; he's not really giving them a choice. He's just torturing them. For fun.

Granted, I can't really offer a full reading of the show because, like the rest of you, I've only seen half of it so far, but I think that the whole point of this has been to get to Twilight. She's the one who felt the "spark" of friendship in Season 1 Episode 2, which makes her the weak link. Discord isn't really a trickster; he's a bad dude who's trying to extinguish that spark by using Twilight's friends against her. If he is playing a game with them, he's using Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity, Fluttershy and Dash as the pieces, and Twilight Sparkle is his true opponent.
I'd add in that he already made a very big clue that it was indeed all about Twilight. Her element is flatout the hardest to define: Magic.

The others are easy to define and identify them at their height, their weakest and when they're flatout reversed.

Honesty's opposite is lying.
Loyalty's opposite is disloyalty.
Kindness' opposite is cruelty.
Generosity's opposite is greed.
Laughter's opposite is despair.

What's the reverse of magic?

No magic?

That's not really a personality trait and certainly not something that could be turned against her or the others.

If anything, I think it's been about Twilight from the get go. Twilight's already gotten a number of red flags about the others, so she knows something whack. In a way, instead of being the weakest link, she's the STRONGEST link, as she's the one thing that binds them together.

The others are, as sad as it is to say, the easiest to replace. We've seen other ponies who display loyalty, honesty, kindness, generosity and laughter, even if they don't do it in the same way.

In a way, it's sort of like what many other villains try to do. When you've got a potentially ruinous opponent who's powers are amplified with support, you do your best to break that support to soften up the strongest part.

Thus, one has to defeat her friends using their flaws before you can even think of challenging her.

Though to be honest, I think Discord screwed up with Rainbow Dash. He only increased her loyalty to Cloudsdale over her friends, he didn't really reverse her element like he did with the others.
 

Ordo

Well-Known Member
#62
akun50 said:
Chuckg said:
To quote poster 'Ryan' from the Equestria Daily comment thread on this episode:

Ryan said:
I think a lot of people are missing the bigger picture here. Discord isn't trying to corrupt all of the elements of harmony, just one: Twilight's. He's not tricking anypony, he's tormenting them and then using them as puppets to make Twilight feel like her friendships are falling apart. It's not about them, it's about her.

Let's look at the rather deft use of imagery throughout the episode. Discord is portrayed as a puppeteer, in the stained glass windows and again in the "Grove of Truth" scene. I think this is meant to be taken literally: he's not manipulating the ponies into abandoning their elements, he's using them as puppets. When he "possesses" them or whatever he's doing, their color drains away. They lose something vital: free will, or the ability to make their own choices, or whatever it is that makes them who they are, however you define it. They do what he wants, even if he doesn't have a direct mind control link.

This raises an important question: if Discord is a puppeteer, who is the puppet show meant for? I think it's pretty obviously Twilight. At the end of Applejack's scene, he could have chosen to reunite her with any of the others, but he chose Twilight because he wants her to see her friends at their worst. Likewise, after each scene, as another pony rejoins the group, it's Twilight who reacts to her changed behavior. The writers take the time to show us her reaction, and in a 22-minute episode about six characters with a whole mess of backstory, that's quite a red flag. Those reactions are important.

But what about Dash? Doesn't he offer her a choice? No. He's really just feeding her a cue. We know that Dash wouldn't choose to abandon her friends when Cloudsdale is in danger because she didn't do it earlier when Clooudsdale was having a nasty cola storm. She stayed in Ponyville to help them clean up the cotton candy clouds. She doesn't really have the choice, he's just using her to make another wrinkle.

What's the point of all the theatrics, then, if he's just hypnotizing them? Why bother to lure Applejack to the Grove of Truth, or make Pinkie Pie doubt her laughter in the balloon park, or show Rarity the illusion of the diamonds? Because he's sadistic, and he's playing with them. He only loses his cool and zaps Fluttershy because she's ruining his fun. He's just bucking with them. Because he can. This isn't a game; there aren't any rules; he's not really giving them a choice. He's just torturing them. For fun.

Granted, I can't really offer a full reading of the show because, like the rest of you, I've only seen half of it so far, but I think that the whole point of this has been to get to Twilight. She's the one who felt the "spark" of friendship in Season 1 Episode 2, which makes her the weak link. Discord isn't really a trickster; he's a bad dude who's trying to extinguish that spark by using Twilight's friends against her. If he is playing a game with them, he's using Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity, Fluttershy and Dash as the pieces, and Twilight Sparkle is his true opponent.
I'd add in that he already made a very big clue that it was indeed all about Twilight. Her element is flatout the hardest to define: Magic. The others, we've already seen at their height, their weakest and their reversed, whereas Twilight's...

What's the reverse of magic?

No magic?

That's not really a personality trait and certainly not something that could be turned against her or the others.

If anything, I think it's been about Twilight from the get go. Twilight's already gotten a number of red flags about the others, so she knows something whack. In a way, instead of being the weakest link, she's the STRONGEST link, as she's the one thing that binds them together.

The others are, as sad as it is to say, the easiest to replace. We've seen other ponies who display loyalty, honesty, kindness, generosity and laughter, even if they don't do it in the same way.

In a way, it's sort of like what many other villains try to do. When you've got a potentially ruinous opponent who's powers are amplified with support, you do your best to break that support to soften up the strongest part.

Thus, one has to defeat her friends using their flaws before you can even think of challenging her.
Don't kill the pilot or destroy the ridiculously overpowered mecha....aim for the elite repair team.

Or two quote wheel of time "Knock one leg off a tripod...."
 

Chuckg

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#63
akun50 said:
I'd add in that he already made a very big clue that it was indeed all about Twilight. Her element is flatout the hardest to define: Magic.
... um, friendship is magic.(*) Its in the title. Its the entire plot of the pilot.

That's why he can't just zap Twilight Sparkle, no. She has to turn her back on the entire concept of having friends on her own...


(*) Although magic is not always friendship, see 'The Great and Powerful Trixie'.
 

Ordo

Well-Known Member
#64
Fluttershy: "Good boy Angel, Momma's so proud."......wow that pony is scary when she's mad.

Also good on the Princess for sending Twilight the only thing she really needed.
 

Souffle

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#65
Fluttershy wasn't mad, she was MEAN. Remember, this wasn't their psychosis from s1, this was them being their opposites.
 

Ordo

Well-Known Member
#66
Point taken, now comes the more interesting question, just what is Twilight maximum potential? I mean she stopped Q....I mean Discord, from yanking the Ponies around via their necklaces with a teleport to shield spell. Discord also didn't try to hypnotize her and instead used her friends to break her heart. What is it about that pony that makes her so special, and just what does Princess Celesta know about all this that she is not sharing?

Also, though it might be pure geek bait, having the episode end with a pony version of 'Star Wars: A New Hopes' ending could have some dire consequences for the futre.

I mean what's next "Discord Strikes Back?"

In all seriousness, if you were to tell me that Twilight is the reborn goddess of magic "Mystra" I'd be inclined to hear you out.
 

LORD_ARM

Well-Known Member
#67
Ordo said:
Point taken, now comes the more interesting question, just what is Twilight maximum potential? I mean she stopped Q....I mean Discord, from yanking the Ponies around via their necklaces with a teleport to shield spell. Discord also didn't try to hypnotize her and instead used her friends to break her heart. What is it about that pony that makes her so special, and just what does Princess Celesta know about all this that she is not sharing?

Also, though it might be pure geek bait, having the episode end with a pony version of 'Star Wars: A New Hopes' ending could have some dire consequences for the futre.

I mean what's next "Discord Strikes Back?"

In all seriousness, if you were to tell me that Twilight is the reborn goddess of magic "Mystra" I'd be inclined to hear you out.
Did anyone else notes that when the bubble shield landed it turn the bit of land back to normal. That seems to surprise Discord. I think his defeat was a fake.
 

Ordo

Well-Known Member
#69
Vexarian said:
People are actually writing fanfiction about this series?

Jesus christ.
I'm not sure I see the difference between writing fanfics for Pokemon, Avatar the Last Airbender, Yugioh, Transformers, TMNT and digimon versue my little pony. I would ask that you explain why people writing fics for my little pony is so concerning?
 

nick012000

Well-Known Member
#70
LORD_ARM said:
Ordo said:
Point taken, now comes the more interesting question, just what is Twilight maximum potential? I mean she stopped Q....I mean Discord, from yanking the Ponies around via their necklaces with a teleport to shield spell. Discord also didn't try to hypnotize her and instead used her friends to break her heart. What is it about that pony that makes her so special, and just what does Princess Celesta know about all this that she is not sharing?

Also, though it might be pure geek bait, having the episode end with a pony version of 'Star Wars: A New Hopes' ending could have some dire consequences for the futre.

I mean what's next "Discord Strikes Back?"

In all seriousness, if you were to tell me that Twilight is the reborn goddess of magic "Mystra" I'd be inclined to hear you out.
Did anyone else notes that when the bubble shield landed it turn the bit of land back to normal. That seems to surprise Discord. I think his defeat was a fake.
I hope so too. I suppose we'll have to wait and see, though. At the very least, he's not going to turn up for months if not years. How far apart were Q's appearances in The Next Generation?
 

Ordo

Well-Known Member
#71
nick012000 said:
LORD_ARM said:
Ordo said:
Point taken, now comes the more interesting question, just what is Twilight maximum potential? I mean she stopped Q....I mean Discord, from yanking the Ponies around via their necklaces with a teleport to shield spell. Discord also didn't try to hypnotize her and instead used her friends to break her heart. What is it about that pony that makes her so special, and just what does Princess Celesta know about all this that she is not sharing?

Also, though it might be pure geek bait, having the episode end with a pony version of 'Star Wars: A New Hopes' ending could have some dire consequences for the futre.

I mean what's next "Discord Strikes Back?"

In all seriousness, if you were to tell me that Twilight is the reborn goddess of magic "Mystra" I'd be inclined to hear you out.
Did anyone else notes that when the bubble shield landed it turn the bit of land back to normal. That seems to surprise Discord. I think his defeat was a fake.
I hope so too. I suppose we'll have to wait and see, though. At the very least, he's not going to turn up for months if not years. How far apart were Q's appearances in The Next Generation?
Depends upon how you measure/percieve time.
 

Souffle

Well-Known Member
#72
Vexarian said:
People are actually writing fanfiction about this series?

Jesus christ.


Good lord the end of act hiatus must be making you quiver in angst or something.
 

akun50

Well-Known Member
#73
Vexarian said:
People are actually writing fanfiction about this series?

Jesus christ.
Wait, someone DOESN'T watch My Little Pony?!

 

Ordo

Well-Known Member
#74
akun50 said:
Vexarian said:
People are actually writing fanfiction about this series?

Jesus christ.
Wait, someone DOESN'T watch My Little Pony?!

Burn the Heretic! Let his heathen corpse snap and crackle in the fires of Equestria's eternal flame! Or let him/her dance a death jig while being set alite by God-Emperess Celestial's holy promethium!
 

Kenko

Well-Known Member
#75
Ordo said:
akun50 said:
Vexarian said:
People are actually writing fanfiction about this series?

Jesus christ.
Wait, someone DOESN'T watch My Little Pony?!

Burn the Heretic! Let his heathen corpse snap and crackle in the fires of Equestria's eternal flame! Or let him/her dance a death jig while being set alite by God-Emperess Celestial's holy promethium!
NO! WRONG! BAD PONY! LOVE AND TOLERATE!

And THEN slap him upside the head.
 
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