Akiyoshi said:
As long as they just doesn't turn the main cast into a bunch of incompetent fools all for the case of showcasing how awesome the new allies are. It was lame everytime Bleach did that.
It was wonderfully averted in A's. Even when outclassed by the Wolkenritter. Nanoha's friends managed to put up a fight and resist enough for Nanoha to get them out of there.
Getting them out of there is fine. If you're outclassed, being able to pull back isn't a bad thing... Though having some of the crew as Huck POWs would make things more interesting.
Also, the cast doesn't have to become a bunch of incompetent fools. The bad guys just have to outsmart them.
Hoki said:
Well there is this civil war in Orussia which the TSAB does nothing except provide aid to the refugees, simply because it's not their job to settle a country's affairs. Also, didn't the US win the Iraq War?
I don't think making the TSAB powerless would add anything to Force's story. The TSAB is limiting its own power because as evidenced by Lindy's exposition way back in season 1, worlds that gained too much power inevitably destroyed themselves. Heck, the entire conflict could be resolved if the TSAB lifted its own ban on mass weaponry, and simply rained Armageddon on the Hucks.
Also, other organizations which do not share the same ideals as the TSAB would only worsen the situation, making Force's story even more convoluted than it already is.
The war that they're doing nothing with.
I don't consider toppling Saddam a victory, given they spent nearly 10 years there, fighting terrorists and then withdrawing when said terrorists just wouldn't die.
Again, this has nothing to do with power. It has to do with the TSAB being in the wrong place at the wrong time and this costing them dearly.
That said, another organization stronger than them that didn't impose those mass weapon limitations upon themselves and is doing fine would be a good thing indeed.
For one, I think part of Hades plan is to market the Eclipse as an alternative because not everyone can be a mage, but a perfected Eclipse could give anyone Eclipse powers.
It won't be convoluted if they stop pulling one card after the other without turning them face up.
Van Silverlight said:
Hoki said:
Well there is this civil war in Orussia which the TSAB does nothing except provide aid to the refugees, simply because it's not their job to settle a country's affairs. Also, didn't the US win the Iraq War?
I think he meant the statement US made about Iraq is building WMD in the beginning of war...In the end,there were no WMD..It just US plan to seize control of country rich with oil.Now,let stop at that.
Yeah, that's about it. That and that they turned tail and left without having accomplished anything other than triggering a financial crisis at home with a war that was depleting the Treasury.
I could've referenced the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan or the Vietnam War too, but those are more obscure nowadays and some of you might not be familiar with them.
Its a good thing that TSAB doesn't meddle to much in orrusia affairs or it could be worse.(If" TSAB would interfere with Orrusia's conflict,I'm afraid it will be one side).My point?Either have a peace talk/whatever you callled it between the two faction in Orrusia and have they settle their differences with minimal support from TSAB or TSAB just use their superiority in Magic and Technology to cease both factions to stop fighting...
That's what I dislike about them. I wish they'd had a run in with another world that boots them out and tells them to mind their own business. When everything is either TSAB aligned or underdeveloped, it isn't nearly as interesting since the TSAB can just impose their opinions on about anyone.
Hoki said:
I don't think making the TSAB powerless would add anything to Force's story. The TSAB is limiting its own power because as evidenced by Lindy's exposition way back in season 1, worlds that gained too much power inevitably destroyed themselves. Heck, the entire conflict could be resolved if the TSAB lifted its own ban on mass weaponry, and simply rained Armageddon on the Hucks.
This "ban of mass weaponry", does it apply to firearms/devices/weapons like Arc En Ciel? Man, TSAB starts sounding like UN here...
Also, other organizations which do not share the same ideals as the TSAB would only worsen the situation, making Force's story even more convoluted than it already is.
I agree, too many organizations would make FORCE more complicated/problematic... Hades is already enough for that job.
They sound more like NATO to me. Rules are the same for everyone... Except us, since we don't have competition.
Also, Hades is not really an organization. Just another Aizen... When he reveals he has an Eclipse Army of sorts, then things might start to get interesting.