Nanoha Question

[Mr Coin00]

A father who is renowned god-like in the way of the sword. A son who can seemingly bend time with mere sword technique. An niece who can wielded double handled katanas like a master. And the Takamachi's youngest child is a mage with a AAA+ ranking at the age of 9.

There is nothing normal about the Takamachi family, Akiyoshi. The only one I considered normal in the family is Momoko.

Then again. How was Momoko able to seduce a super bodyguard slash widower?

 

[Andarion]

Then again. How was Momoko able to seduce a super bodyguard slash widower?

With otherworldly good sweets?

 

[Hoki]

A father who is renowned god-like in the way of the sword. A son who can seemingly bend time with mere sword technique. An niece who can wielded double handled katanas like a master. And the Takamachi's youngest child is a mage with a AAA+ ranking at the age of 9.

There is nothing normal about the Takamachi family, Akiyoshi. The only one I considered normal in the family is Momoko.

Then again. How was Momoko able to seduce a super bodyguard slash widower?

You're making it sound like Momoko intentionally wanted to attract Shiro.

The relationship probably started normally: met, got to know each other, fell in love, got married, had kids. Or, one of those movie-type love stories. take your pick.

Besides, at least somebody in the Nanoha/Toraha universe has a streak of abnormality in them. Shinobu and theoretically Suzuka Tsukimura are vampires, Alisa is a ghost, Noel and Farin are robot maids.

The closest to being normal is Fiasse, who is a celebrity.

 

[keroko]

The most important thing to remember is that the trope badass normal really only applies in a world filled with supernatural phenomena, as it relies in the badass normal not to have these or similar powers, but still defeat these monstrosities without them.

So do the Takamachi's in Triangle Hearts 3 fight of supernatural beasties with only superskilled swordsplay? If yes, then they are badass normals.

But do the Takamachi's in Triangle Hearts 3 only fight normal threats, such as criminals with swords or guns, or use supernatural swordsplay? If yes, then they are not badass normals.

Oh, and Nanoha is out of the race by default due to her magic, of course.

 

[Nanya]

If Kyouya, Miyuki and Shiro were on Mid-Childa and could take down magic-using criminals, they'd be badass normal since they don't have magic.

If they're on Earth, fighting criminals and such, they're still badass, but it's badass ABnormal then.

And, of course, Nanoha won the superpower lottery.

 

[Kaijo]

As Keroko said, the term "Badass Normal" has a specific meaning, explained by the trope page. It's a very specific definition, that is determined not only by the person, but by the world and events they are surrounded by.

And to respond to an earlier point, who says those advanced animals didn't do math? Animals do a lot of things that surprise us nowadays. Including some like parrots that can count and apply concepts. You could take a tray of various objects, of different shapes, colors, and put it before Alex, a grey parrot. And then ask, "Alex, how many squares?" And it would look at the tray, and respond "4" in English.

Did you know that some species of monkeys develop prostitution whose cost depends on market rate? Say, for instance, there are only a few females. As a male monkey, you'd have to groom her for 10 minutes before she'd consent to sex. If there are many monkeys? It drops down to 3 minutes or less. Monkeys know value, and this number is consistent dependent upon how many females and how many males are present. And they time the grooming fairly close to the second.

I wouldn't put it past those monsters with linker cores to have some minimal form of magic that use for existing, just like any other evolved traits. It's still nowhere on par for humans (the Wolkies got very little from them), but they would be capable of doing simple math for the little amount of magic they may need or use.

 

[ragnarok1337]

It should be pointed out one does *not* need much math to do majic or to have the potential at any case... were that the case the Knights would not have been attacking animals for magic to fill the book of darkness.

Linker Cores and Spells are two different things. while an animal might have a Linker Core with magic, to cast a complex spell you need a mathematical equation.

 

[Rising Dragon]

We find the use of mathematics in nature all the time. Animals can prove more intelligent than we realize, and some of these creatures have big goddamn brains given the size of their bodies. Given instinct, there's probably a few spells that they know.

 

[keroko]

Linker Cores and Spells are two different things. while an animal might have a Linker Core with magic, to cast a complex spell you need a mathematical equation.

Not necessarily, that is simply human magic. We know there are instinctual magics, such as affinities and dragon summonings. It therefore is a possibility creatures born with Linker Cores could develop a natural form of magic. Or develop one that relies on a subconscious form of mathematics. The kind that spiders use to weave webs, or bees use to construct geometrically perfect hives.

 

[Nanya]

Linker Cores and Spells are two different things. while an animal might have a Linker Core with magic, to cast a complex spell you need a mathematical equation.

Not necessarily, that is simply human magic. We know there are instinctual magics, such as affinities and dragon summonings. It therefore is a possibility creatures born with Linker Cores could develop a natural form of magic. Or develop one that relies on a subconscious form of mathematics. The kind that spiders use to weave webs, or bees use to construct geometrically perfect hives.

Hasn't it been pointed out that there's hundreds of magic styles out there and Mid (like Belkan) is one of many?

You think they all use math to work?

 

[Gx Hero]

depnds on what you mean as math. I am sure that they can be broken down into equations. after all in Vivid a lot of kids use magic. ANd yes there are a lot of styles of magic. Probaly just evolved into a common style. For instance English language in the Us and English both are considered english.

Like I said commonly use and taught so it is very common compared to others.


THough the question is do most worlds use this type of magic or are htere some that use their own. WHo knows since the nanoha niverse dosen't really show enough to tell acurately

 

[keroko]

Linker Cores and Spells are two different things. while an animal might have a Linker Core with magic, to cast a complex spell you need a mathematical equation.

Not necessarily, that is simply human magic. We know there are instinctual magics, such as affinities and dragon summonings. It therefore is a possibility creatures born with Linker Cores could develop a natural form of magic. Or develop one that relies on a subconscious form of mathematics. The kind that spiders use to weave webs, or bees use to construct geometrically perfect hives.

Hasn't it been pointed out that there's hundreds of magic styles out there and Mid (like Belkan) is one of many?

You think they all use math to work?

891 to be exact. And that's only the documented ones.