Naruto [Naruto] Miscellaneous ideas topic.

GenocideHeart

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Okay, just a few random ideas to start fics from. Just thoughts, no more.

-What if Naruto was Orochimaru's son?

-...or what if he was Genma's son?

-What if it had been Rin to train Team 7 and Kakashi had died instead of Obito?

-What if Naruto was actually prone to extreme bouts of blind violence? Basically, what if he had Anger Management Disorder? (I pity those who treat him like shit...)

-What if Naruto was trained personally by Ibiki? (remember, he expressed interest in him after his test, and if the fricking HOKAGE can make time for SAKURA, so can Ibiki for the superior Naruto)

-What if Naruto ran away and was picked up by a pre-Akatsuki Sasori? Hmm, Puppet Master Naruto?

And finally:

-What if Sakura and Tayuya switched places (Tayuya being born in Leaf, and Sakura being in the Sound 5)?

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Moshulel

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Well first Tayuya wouldn't be such a bad mouth, second: Will the seal reveal inner Sakura?

Naruto trained by Sasori is already taken!
 

BlackSun

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-...or what if he was Genma's son?
biological son could be interesting, adoptive son was already done, but not finished.

-What if Naruto was actually prone to extreme bouts of blind violence? Basically, what if he had Anger Management Disorder? (I pity those who treat him like shit...)
I'd like to see it

-What if Naruto was trained personally by Ibiki? (remember, he expressed interest in him after his test, and if the fricking HOKAGE can make time for SAKURA, so can Ibiki for the superior Naruto)
After the chuunin exam or before, raising him?
 

SimmyC

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Naruto as Orochimaru's son could be interesting. Not sure how it will play out though. :unsure:

Randomly violent Naruto would make him even more alienated with his peers. Could be a darkish fic in a way.

The other ideas, bah, no time to go into them. :p
 

DhampyrX2

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I've read one where Naruto was Orochimaru's son, but snake boy didn't raise him. It was a one shot that explained why Orochimaru left. Namely Sarutobi and Arashi though he didn't really care for his lover or son and only wanted them for power, then went and used Naruto to seal the Kyuubi in because they thought he was expendable and it was a better fate than letting Orochimaru raise him.

The catch, Orochimaru had intended to marry his lover, return completely to the leaf, and raise his son. Instead he gets a front row seat to his hated rival condemning his only child to the life of a demon vessel. Cue Orochimaru's hatred of everything that is Konoha to the nth degree.

I actually had plans to write something similar with snake-boy as Anko's father (the reason he was allowed to train anyone was blood realtion) and Naruto being Anko and Arashi's child. That makes him Orochimaru's grandson.
 

BlackSun

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Do you have a link?
 

GenocideHeart

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Here's another idea that Moshulel, BlackSun, H-Man and I discussed at length along with others in a chatroom:

What if Naruto wasn't human at all, but instead a puppet animated by the incredible power of the Kyuubi when it was sealed within him?

Basically, Naruto woould start as a child-like puppet, possibly created by a woman who had lost her child and created it, reversing all her hopes and love for the lost child in it... which would have left a tiny spiritual spark in the puppet.

Following that, the puppet would then start to act like a living infant after Kyuubi is sealed in it, as its chakra flowing in the puppet ignited the spark of spirit that was there... giving it life. Essentially, this Naruto is the 'son' of Kyuubi, in spirit if not in flesh or personality.

This Naruto would likely have basically perfect chakra control, being basically pure chakra sealed in a nonliving container, thus no native chakra to disturb the demon one. Likely, only imagination, and possibly Kyuubi limiting it in order to shape him as a host body, are the only limits Naruto would have to what he can do.

Sarutobi would be probably less warm towards him, but very curious, as in the worst case scenario, Naruto could be Konoha's secret weapon, and in the best case, he'd be an entirely new form of life in his own right.

The possibilities are huge with this one... Mosh seems enamored with it. :snigger:
 

Moshulel

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Yes i like this idea a lot, just thinking about the possibilities is great.

The whole story will change once he finds out what he is, and who knows once he finds out he isn't human.....

Plus given the fact that he is not made of flesh could grant him inmortality or a strong association with wood seeing as he'll be a man of wood.

I just drool at the prospect of this fic. :p
 

GenocideHeart

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Here's a thought: if Naruto has an affinity with wood and metal (being a puppet made of those and all), would he be able to use the Firsts village-creating jutsu? Or use Doton jutsu, since Earth is associated to Wood? Or even use the Iron Black Sand? Who knows...
 

Moshulel

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Or given the fact that water makes plants grow Suiton jutsu's?

Offcourse this will mean that he wont be good at all with Katon and Raiton jutsu's.
 

GenocideHeart

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Hmm. My idea is, what if Naruto was a puppet made by Rin following the ill-fated Stone-Leaf war where Obito lost his life?

My idea has Rin and Obito being secret lovers, both around 15 years of age (older than Kakashi, who'd be around 14 in this scenario, dring the Gaiden), and with Obito a few months older. And Rin, during the mission, loses not only her beloved, but a child she'd been expecting for some months now, whom she never told Obito about.

Thus she,in her grief, takes time to distract herself in the art of puppetry, but instead ends up pouring all of herself in the construction of a puppet resembling a child, as a sort of panacea for her pain.

Then there's the Kyuubi mess, Rin presumably dies in teh attack,and the puppet she made (irony of ironies) is used to seal the creature... making it alive.

So basically, Naruto would be, in a sense, the son of both Obito and Kyuubi, in addition to Rin.

Yeah, I'm juggling with ages, but before flaming me for underage pregnancy... this is a world where kids are taught to KILL at 10 or so years, if not before. I don't buy the whole sex restrictions being that strict...
 

Moshulel

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I'm more inclined to believe Kakashi would fit as a 13 year old here. I don't see a problem with the whole age juggling here, besides Kakashi and Obito kill in the gaiden what stops them from making love?

Death & Life.

I'm thinking of having my own take at it, making Tsunade as the creator of the puppet during the Sand-Leaf war with quite a few variations.
 

GenocideHeart

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Heh. Well, I'll try and whip up some sort of prologue tomorrow. Hmm... I'll just see how well this can flow.
 

Pirazy

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Naruto raised by Genma has been done once before, from what I can recall, by the brilliant SOC Puppet, unfortunately he's suffering from a bad case of the IRL so he rarely updates.. :(

Naruto raised by Ibiki has also been done, not that I have read any, judging by the reviews and word-count it was sub-par at best..

Haven't read any where Oro's the father.. the premise is too weird, there isn't even any similarities, physical or mental. However, if he were an experiment of Oro, an attempt at creating a superior human (vessel) by mixing traits from various shinobi (Yondaimes rugged good looks?), it'd be believeable.

I don't see how the Sakura/Tayuya trading places would change much, they'd basically just swap personalities, seeings as they'd grow up the same way and being influenced by their enviroment the same. Same for Kakashi dying, Naruto would just get another sensei, if Rin even survived that long and wasn't assigned to work in the hospital, from what I have seen they don't let medic-nins become jounin-sensei. Also she was inferior to Kakashi and even Obito in pure combat, seeing as that was not her field of expertise.

I couldn't see a fic where Naruto is openly violent and attacks people for looking at him the wrong way, they'd probably assume he was being influenced by the demon and have him executed, even if the Sandaime would oppose it he'd have to go along with it, unless he'd want a rebellion on his hands, and we've seen in the case with Tsunade that the council and Sandaimes old teammates have an alarmingly large influence over how the village is run. True, there are fics where Naruto is quite cruel and blood-thirsty, and the author lets him take out his agressions on enemies, but they are often poorly written and filled with bashing of various characters plus Naruto is always overpowered and yet somehow always manage to fumble when it's time to take on Orochimaru during the chuunin-exam.

An exception to this is Nine Tailed Serpent by LT2000, the fic starts with the premise that Naruto has been in contact with the Kyuubi for a long time (old, I know) and has under it's influence become quite the sadistic psycho (also old..), spending his youth training with the limited resources he has as a young child and later academy student, which he puts to use by travelling to neighbouring villages and killing small-time bandits and yakuza and robbing them, thereby giving him an income besides the meager amount that's found it's way to him after it's gone through the Leaf's biased bureacracy, one of the reasons why Sandaime allows his "excursions". This has given him the "shinobi mindset" at a very young age, and ridden him of his "class clown prankster dumbass" personality. A good fic, some minor spelling errors here and there, grammar that doesn't leap out of the screen and claw your eyes out, a rare thing in the Naruto section over at FF.net. Note that the dialogue sometimes get a bit clichÚ and weird, like the nickname Naruto gives himself during later chapters when he's playing some mind-games on a certain somebody, but it's still readable.
 

GenocideHeart

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Here's a few more misc ideas I came up with.

-Naruto/Magic:tG crossover. What if Naruto was raised as a Dementia summoner by none other than Chainer, the Dementia Master?

-Naruto/Magic:tG again. What if the Mirari suddenly appeared in Naruto's world and started causing all kinds of havoc?

-Naruto/Magic:tG again. What if having Kyuubi, or possibly even another bijuu for a change, sealed in him gave Naruto teh same unfortunate side effect Phage the Untouchable suffers from? Namely: his mere touch is lethal, rotting anything organic in a second?

-Naruto/Lufia. What if the Bijuu were replaced by the Sinistrals... and within Naruto was sealed the most powerful of them all... Erim, Sinistral of Death? (for an alternate take, try Gades, Sinistral of Destruction)

-Naruto/Star Ocean. One day, a ship crash lands near Konoha. Inside it are a strange woman with three eyes and a large gun, and a blonde boy wit a sword... (SO2, assumes Claude/Opera)
 

GenocideHeart

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Another xover idea I came up with while watching anime in my free time today:

Naruto/Saber Marionette J.

This idea assumes that Naruto's world is actually the one from SMJ after the whole Noah fiasco, and that eventually the Jipang state conquered all other states in a violent war that sent most technology back several decades (hence why the tech to build marionettes has been lost).

During tha war, the support of the newly-forming Hidden Villages was vital, which over time led to the current situation of power among Hidden Villages.

However, not all ancient technology was destroyed in the war. Some secret caches were spared, remaining undiscovered.

In one such cache, three of the late Faust's Marionettes, his most valued and loved aides, were placed in suspended animation, awaiting a time of peace where they could be awakened and hopefully live their own life.

One day, a certain blonde boy accidentaly stumbles upon this cache, and relactivates the dormant Marionettes.

Now, Naruto Uzumaki finds himself with a rather unexpected 'family': the three Saber Dolls of Gartland, Tiger, Panther and Luchs!

Later on, it is hinted that the reason why the Dolls serve Naruto is simple enough: his genetic pattern was derived from Faust's. In othe words, Naruto is a descendant of faust, and by blood right, is now the sole surviving heir to the now-defunct Gartland's throne!

:snigger:
 

Fatuous One

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It's been a while since I've watched SMJ, but isn't there are problem with the environment? I recall these weird purple storms that were frequent in the SMJ world, which would make me wonder if you'll need to actually blend the worlds to make it work properly.

Not a bad idea, although I really have to wonder at the power levels of the crew. I don't think that the marionettes would be able to fight against too many ninja and win.
 

GenocideHeart

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Fatuous One said:
It's been a while since I've watched SMJ, but isn't there are problem with the environment? I recall these weird purple storms that were frequent in the SMJ world, which would make me wonder if you'll need to actually blend the worlds to make it work properly.

Not a bad idea, although I really have to wonder at the power levels of the crew. I don't think that the marionettes would be able to fight against too many ninja and win.
Actually, IIRC the plasma storms were fixed by Noah after the ending of J to X, but I may be wrong...

As for the power levels, there IS the whole fact that bullets *bounced off* the Saberdolls. Most conventional ninja weapons would be worthless against them, as would straight taijutsu (they're arguably stronger than Gai physically), and since they're automata, genjutsu is also worthless. That right there cripples 70% of an average ninja's offense...

Of course, if ninja attacked one of them in large numbers, they'd likely lose. Then again, if all 3 are fighting at once, they can easily cover each other even against superior numbers...
 

Fatuous One

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Actually, IIRC the plasma storms were fixed by Noah after the ending of J to X, but I may be wrong...
You're probably right, my memory of the series beyond the first season is crap.

As for the power levels, there IS the whole fact that bullets *bounced off* the Saberdolls. Most conventional ninja weapons would be worthless against them, as would straight taijutsu (they're arguably stronger than Gai physically), and since they're automata, genjutsu is also worthless. That right there cripples 70% of an average ninja's offense...
Point. Although I do wonder if all of the conventional weaponry would be useless against them. What are the specs on the marionettes anyway?
 

Moshulel

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Point. Although I do wonder if all of the conventional weaponry would be useless against them. What are the specs on the marionettes anyway?

One thing that will not work on them?

The Mary Suegan...

Also having a bunch of Mary Sues in a fic as appealing as it is doesn't suit my tastes too well... have them with a few vulnerabilities too.
 

Fatuous One

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-_-;; Mosh, just because conventional weaponry doesn't work on them, doesn't automatically make them Mary Sues... you should actually put a bit of research into the characters before simply label them as such.
 

Moshulel

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I was reffering to this actually:

Genjutsu=null
Weaponry=Null
Doton Jutsus=Mostly uselles

I'm not sure about Raiton, Suiton or Katon but ....

Also will tehniques such as the Kage Mane work on them?

I'm just saying they need a few weekneses...
 

GenocideHeart

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Moshulel said:
Point. Although I do wonder if all of the conventional weaponry would be useless against them. What are the specs on the marionettes anyway?

One thing that will not work on them?

The Mary Suegan...

Also having a bunch of Mary Sues in a fic as appealing as it is doesn't suit my tastes too well... have them with a few vulnerabilities too.
They do have a vulnerability. Specifically, that they put their master's wellbeing above anything else. If he's in a hostage situation, they'll usually not be too sure what to do - on one hand, they could easily bulldoze over his captors, but on the other, he could be killed...

Granted, that only goes for Tiger and Panther. Luchs is a strategic genius greater than shikamaru, so she'd probably come up with something.

Tiger is also overprotective to the extreme, going to the point that she's liable to cripple you for glaring at her master one second too long, while Panther just has an overall irritable character.

Also, if they are hit hard enough to damage them, repairing them is a difficult thing to do, since in this fic idea most of the necessary tech was lost. With the right materials, Luchs could probably do it, bot for her, specialized personnel may be needed... which is why it'd be handy if there was some leftover of Gartland somewhere, perhaps hidden beter than a ninja village...

I was reffering to this actually:

Genjutsu=null
Weaponry=Null
Doton Jutsus=Mostly uselles

I'm not sure about Raiton, Suiton or Katon but ....

Also will tehniques such as the Kage Mane work on them?

I'm just saying they need a few weekneses...
Actually, Doton can probably immobilize them long enough, possibly even damage them if they are hit by a large rock slide with enough weight. Raiton can possibly disable them - the plasma storms were feared even by Saber Marionettes. Suiton is probably useless, as they seem waterproof, although the pressure might affect them, while Katon can possibly burn up some part of them.

So yeah, they HAVE weaknesses. Ninjutsu in general should work on them, also, they're limited to close combat unless they can get firearms. And of course, they cannot use jutsu AT ALL.
 

Fatuous One

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Yeah, GH generally outlined their weakness'. And really, they have practically no attacks besides the basics. Although, when you're about as strong as Gai, you rarely need to use anything besides those.
 
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