Naruto Naruto Shippuden OVA - Naruto vs. Konohamaru
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Or is he?
He did try to take on Pain with a rasengan, plus his grandfather, the third, was said to be able to make use of the Kage Bunshin extensively when he was younger.
Age doesn't really make or break anything here.
Itachi was confirmed to be very strong for his age during the time of the Uchiha massacre.
He did try to take on Pain with a rasengan, plus his grandfather, the third, was said to be able to make use of the Kage Bunshin extensively when he was younger.
Age doesn't really make or break anything here.
Itachi was confirmed to be very strong for his age during the time of the Uchiha massacre.
Remember, Kage Bunshin split evenly the chakra among all the copies and the original.
Konohamaru made at least two dozen of Kage Bunshin, then he still had enough chakra to make a Rasengan for each pair.
Kakashi himself stated he couldn't make more than a dozen of Kage Bunshin, here Konohamaru makes double the amount and still has a lot of chakra.
He might lack skill, but he's overpowered, as far as chakra reserves go.
Konohamaru made at least two dozen of Kage Bunshin, then he still had enough chakra to make a Rasengan for each pair.
Kakashi himself stated he couldn't make more than a dozen of Kage Bunshin, here Konohamaru makes double the amount and still has a lot of chakra.
He might lack skill, but he's overpowered, as far as chakra reserves go.
while I sorta agree with the sentiment, you can't really use Kakashi as a yardstick for chakra, seeing as he's always been shown to be a bit weak in that regard.
It might be a bit overblown here, but I don't find it too difficult to believe that Konohamaru is like Jiraiya or A. One of those natural chakra powerhouses.
It might be a bit overblown here, but I don't find it too difficult to believe that Konohamaru is like Jiraiya or A. One of those natural chakra powerhouses.
Kakashi may have not much Chakra, but he's still a 26 years old adult Jnin, while Konohamaru is a 13 years old rookie genin.
I mean, having enough chakra to use Katon Gkaky no Jutsu is already impressive, having enough chakra to use a lot of Kage Bunshin AND rasengans at the same time withOUT a chakra entity in your guts is... well, overpowered.
Remember, Konohamaru didn't train seriously until he met Naruto 3 years before this... Sasuke has shown less growth
I mean, having enough chakra to use Katon Gkaky no Jutsu is already impressive, having enough chakra to use a lot of Kage Bunshin AND rasengans at the same time withOUT a chakra entity in your guts is... well, overpowered.
Remember, Konohamaru didn't train seriously until he met Naruto 3 years before this... Sasuke has shown less growth
Naruto could pull off two thousand shadow clones without needing to tap into Kurama's power, thanks to his Uzimaki heritage, even if he was on the high end for one of the families descended from the Sage, like the first two Hokage. I find the idea of Konohamaru pulling a dozen shadow clones and two dozen rasengans off entirely plausible, given that he's descended from the Sarutobi clan, whose clan abilities have never been mentioned and are therefore likely to be fairly subtle.
I was more surprised about the ending actually. How did Naruto enter Sage Mode without standing still?
If I remember correctly it takes considerable effort and concentration to gather nature chakra and find the right mix of physical, spiritual and natural energies.
I didn't mind the fight itself even though Konohamaru was extremely overpowered. Shuriken Kage Bunshin and Katon: Haisekishou I bought.
Oudama Rasengan was slowly pushing it, but was still fine so far. Tajuu Kage Bunshin no Jutsu, however, was just too much.
It's still a watchable OVA considering it only goes for 12 minutes. The last joke was horrible though come to think of it. Should have gone for the obvious joke of Konohamaru being the idiot for forgetting that the fight still goes on instead of having a surprise return of "Naruto the Idiot". Never understood what's so funny about watching idiots. That's why I despise reality TV.
If I remember correctly it takes considerable effort and concentration to gather nature chakra and find the right mix of physical, spiritual and natural energies.
I didn't mind the fight itself even though Konohamaru was extremely overpowered. Shuriken Kage Bunshin and Katon: Haisekishou I bought.
Oudama Rasengan was slowly pushing it, but was still fine so far. Tajuu Kage Bunshin no Jutsu, however, was just too much.
It's still a watchable OVA considering it only goes for 12 minutes. The last joke was horrible though come to think of it. Should have gone for the obvious joke of Konohamaru being the idiot for forgetting that the fight still goes on instead of having a surprise return of "Naruto the Idiot". Never understood what's so funny about watching idiots. That's why I despise reality TV.
The most ridiculous part of that OVA isn't how overpowered Konohamaru is, it's that despite them expecting Tobi's army to attack Lightning Country any minute now, the United Shinobi Army apparently decided it would be a good idea to make a detour to Wind Country (on the other side of the fucking continent) to have a purely symbolic Chuunin Exam to raise moral.
Nope, Naruto's exaggerated chakra reserves aren't caused by him being an Uzumaki.
They are caused by Kurama(most likely because a little of Kurama's chakra filters in Naruto's system all time). This has been stated explicitly in the manga.
the Uzumaki were only said having strong vitality and long lifespans... nowhere it was said they have massive chakra reserves, especially not at Naruto's level.
Most likely, without Kurama in his guts Naruto would have chakra reserves more on less on Sasuke's level and would heal faster but wouldn't have a full-fledged regeneration ability(his current "heals minor wounds in seconds")
Also, Asuma is Sarutobi's son, yet he doesn't seem a walking chakra battery, so that argument is out as well.
They are caused by Kurama(most likely because a little of Kurama's chakra filters in Naruto's system all time). This has been stated explicitly in the manga.
the Uzumaki were only said having strong vitality and long lifespans... nowhere it was said they have massive chakra reserves, especially not at Naruto's level.
Most likely, without Kurama in his guts Naruto would have chakra reserves more on less on Sasuke's level and would heal faster but wouldn't have a full-fledged regeneration ability(his current "heals minor wounds in seconds")
Also, Asuma is Sarutobi's son, yet he doesn't seem a walking chakra battery, so that argument is out as well.
Dude having a strong life force=high chakra reserves as it's been beaten into our heads over and over again by Kishi. Why do you think that exact same description is used for the Senju. Theirs also the matter that all other Uzumaki shown so far had at the very least Kage level chakra reserves. Unless you want to tell me that Naruto is the only Uzumaki that didn't get the chakra reserves.
Although I'll give you that Kurama is part of the reason his chakra reserves are so huge, but it's not because of the seal. It's because of the time when he was in Kushina's womb (he was born with the whisker marks, which makes me believe even without Kurama he'd be like the Gold & Silever Brothers). Theirs also the fact that it's een stated that the seal siphons off some of Naruto's chakra to keep itself working.
Although I'll give you that Kurama is part of the reason his chakra reserves are so huge, but it's not because of the seal. It's because of the time when he was in Kushina's womb (he was born with the whisker marks, which makes me believe even without Kurama he'd be like the Gold & Silever Brothers). Theirs also the fact that it's een stated that the seal siphons off some of Naruto's chakra to keep itself working.
It's not a retcon. The seal pulling out small amounts of Kurama's chakra and constantly feeding it to Naruto was stated by Jiraiya back during the month of training during the Chuunin Exam, when he was examining the seal to figure out why Naruto was having so much trouble water walking at the hot springs.
Also Naruto does have very large natural chakra reserves, just not superhumanly so. Kakashi stated before the wind elemental training that Naruto has twice as much chakra as himself, but if he uses the Kyuubi's chakra it becomes over a hundred times as much. But since the seal is always leaking Kurama's chakra into Naruto's body it seems like he has near limitless chakra because the seal regenerates it almost as fast as he can burn through it. That's the reason only he can use Kage Bunshins for mass training, anyone else would eat up their chakra in minutes even if they had the same maximum chakra as him, because no one else regenerates chakra like he does.
Also Naruto does have very large natural chakra reserves, just not superhumanly so. Kakashi stated before the wind elemental training that Naruto has twice as much chakra as himself, but if he uses the Kyuubi's chakra it becomes over a hundred times as much. But since the seal is always leaking Kurama's chakra into Naruto's body it seems like he has near limitless chakra because the seal regenerates it almost as fast as he can burn through it. That's the reason only he can use Kage Bunshins for mass training, anyone else would eat up their chakra in minutes even if they had the same maximum chakra as him, because no one else regenerates chakra like he does.
I thought I remembered a thing during the tree climbing where Kakashi said that Naruto's chakra had already surpassed his, but the phrasing was vague and leaned more towards his potential surpassing Kakashi's.
And then I read and snickered at the parts where they said stuff like "Sakura is closest to becoming Hokage," because she finished climbing the tree first, and that she didn't have to continue "Because she was so superior." Sakura, superior...ah, early Naruto craziness.
And then I read and snickered at the parts where they said stuff like "Sakura is closest to becoming Hokage," because she finished climbing the tree first, and that she didn't have to continue "Because she was so superior." Sakura, superior...ah, early Naruto craziness.
How the hell does Konohamaru create so many clones? Kid isn't a jinchuuriki. Also considering how much they seem to love him, can't the anime team make Konohamaru a little more unique than basically being a weaker Naruto clone with one of Asuma's and one of Hiruzen's jutsu replacing the bijuu cloak?