Nasuverse Nasuverse theory

kaiseryuu

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I've just been thinking a little. Gil has B(A+) Divinity and he can tell Angra Mainyu to go blow and it ends up giving him a body, and he can't be corrupted or controlled by the Shadow.

Saber, with no divinity, gets corrupted and controlled.

Berserker, with A rank Divinity, does not get corrupted per se, but gets blinded and made to think he's still fighting Saber Alter to protect Ilya.

So if Gil, in the belly of the beast, lets go of his dislike for the gods enough to let his Divinity go back to A+ to fight back the Shadows influence. Thus he can't be controlled or corrupted by the Shadow.

Rider has E- divinity which was higher supposedly earlier in her life, but got lowered due to her monstrous nature as a Gorgon growing. Thus she's less divine and can't go back to it. Gil's divinity is lowered due to his dislike, not due to anything that has happened to his mind, body or soul to affect it.

Just a theory I've had the pleasure of concot while arguing on /a/.
 

Avider

Well-Known Member
#2
So your theory is that Divinity protects you against corruption by the Shadow by citing two examples in which the one with the lower Divinity is the one who's least corrupted.

Yeah, that makes sense.
 

AOG

Active Member
#3
kaiseryuu said:
I've just been thinking a little. Gil has B(A+) Divinity and he can tell Angra Mainyu to go blow and it ends up giving him a body, and he can't be corrupted or controlled by the Shadow.

Saber, with no divinity, gets corrupted and controlled.

Berserker, with A rank Divinity, does not get corrupted per se, but gets blinded and made to think he's still fighting Saber Alter to protect Ilya.

So if Gil, in the belly of the beast, lets go of his dislike for the gods enough to let his Divinity go back to A+ to fight back the Shadows influence. Thus he can't be controlled or corrupted by the Shadow.

Rider has E- divinity which was higher supposedly earlier in her life, but got lowered due to her monstrous nature as a Gorgon growing. Thus she's less divine and can't go back to it. Gil's divinity is lowered due to his dislike, not due to anything that has happened to his mind, body or soul to affect it.

Just a theory I've had the pleasure of concot while arguing on /a/.
Well, Gil can't get corrupted, but he did in fact get dissolved by it at the end of Fate/zero and was then recompiled using his powers, becoming kind of a part of it.

But no, I don't really think Divinity protects you but like it says here from CM3:

Blackening of Servants
The black mud in the Holy Grail contaminates the souls of those who touch it. It goes without saying for mere humans, and supernatural beings like Servants are no exception to this either. The contaminated person's personality reverses toward the orientation of evil. This is madness caused by touching Angra Mainyu. This is called "blackening". There are those who can use the black mud as part of their own power thanks to the properties of its contamination and those whose powerful egos have stayed back its mental pollution.
An example of the former is Matou Sakura and the latter is Gilgamesh. The blackened Servant is incarnated by the power of the Grail so the more concrete ties to the physical plane turns them into powerful beings.
The only thing that does seems to be sense of self, the ego. In fact since he did get a body by the Grail which the Grail is able to "call back" (see how he got sucked into the Gate in UBW). He might be corrupted in a sense.

And Herc did have his skin rotting along with being blind, so I say he was just as susceptible to it. maybe moreso, because he was divine.

Rider is an anti-hero, so she might have some resistance like Archer claimed he did. But I think Gil is the only one immune, and that seems to be just the madness and physical corruption.
 
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