Need a little help

[DhampyrX2]

I have an idea percolating for something in the Code Geass universe that would take Suzaku in a differnt direction than canon, but I need some help. Can you give me examples of eye-based powers (outside of the Naruto ones since I know those pretty well) that show up in anime and manga?

I'm thinking of giving the dues ex machina that is Geass a run for its money with one of its anime ancestors.

Picture Suzaku going rogue after Euphie's death when he develops the pre-timeskip Sharingan (not sure about Mangenkyo and certainly no wormhole powers or transmission by finger flick to the forehead). Or the Byakugan. I'd avoid the Rinnegan since we're still not 100% certain about what it did.

So what are some other eye powers he could develop that I can work with? Any thoughts?

 

[A Curious Stranger]

Mystic Eyes of Death Perception.

What happens is that your eyes perceive death in the form of lines and dots. You can cut them with a sharp object, and if stabbed in the dot, the thing hit dies. As in it's entire existence is wiped out.

Completely broken, but on the other hand, your body can't handle that kind of stress and you will die before age 20 if you don't have protection.

 

[alansg]

Dragon's Eye

 

[DhampyrX2]

Dragon's Eye

That's very nice, can you describe what it does or where it's from?

 

[bzzt3421]

Let's see the eyes from Basilisk would be pretty broken. The Gennosuke's which causes anyone who he looks at, that bears killing intent towards him, to kill themselves, and Oboro's which cancels any techniques she looks at. At least if I'm remembering them right.

 

[soul ice]

dragons eyes from tenjho tenge are

Shin has the power of the Dragon's Eye (ù?èß, ryuu me or ryuugan?), which synchronizes with the spirits of all things,[2] thus it gives Shin a type of prescience that allowed him to see anywhere past, present, possible futures; as well as seeing and hearing the dead. He gained this power as a child, and it was far too much for him. As with all Dragon's Gate related powers, losing to your dragon and becoming insane and violent is a huge risk; Shin lost leading to his erratic and violent behavior. His power played a key role in his insanity, the other part was due to his father.

When Maya asks why he didn't just predict certain occurrences, Shin compares his power to rain. All the rain drops hit a predetermined place, based on wind and such. They congregate together to and flow, eventually making a stream; according to Shin that is fate.[3] He basically says he can hear the rain, but he can't understand the significance of every drop.[1] Basically indicating his Dragon's Eye will only show him bits and pieces of possible futures, and he doesn't have the ability to piece together the whole picture. This makes the power worthless in his opinion.

 

[Luthorne]

Off the top of my head...

Shien Belmonde from Belmonde le VisiteuR has the ability to look into the eyes of someone who's will has been weakened (usually by making them think they're about to die) and literally see the answer to a question they know the answer to.

Sven Vollfield from Black Cat's transplanted eye allows him to see a few seconds into the future.

Fuhrer King Bradley from Full Metal Alchemist possesses a similar eye that allows him to see all possible outcomes of a situation.

Mido Ban from Get Backers can induce hallucinations that last for one minute in the real world by looking someone in an eye, three times per day, and it can't be used on the same person more than once on a given day.

Tokio from Hitomi no Catoblepas has the Todomeru Me, which allows him to freeze the time of an object, thus letting him turn cloth into an impenetrable barrier, make a liquid into a lethal weapon, and freeze objects in place. Also has the ability to end the life of any being whose gaze meets his for five seconds.

Tista Lone, the titular character from (of course) Tista, has a pair of eyes with inhuman perceptive abilities, allowing her to see incredible distances (it's implied that she can see details on planets circling other stars), read people's emotions through various physiological changes of the eyes (pupils shrinking dilating, bloodflow), and a natural ability to calculate trajectories, allowing her to snipe from incredible distances.

 

[DhampyrX2]

Wow, this is almost depressing to say but it looks like the original Shaningan might be the only one just broken enough to compete with Geass without being too broken like Death Perception. Most of them are a form of precog in one form or another, but at least Sharingan is precog and the ability to copy techniues and movements.

It might almost be better to just have Suzaku learn shonobi techiques at this point.

And now I can't help but picture Lulu's Geass against the Tsukiyomi fighting for dominance.

 

[fallacies]

How are you making the judgment of "broken" enough? What techniques are there to be copied in the Geass world? For that matter, do we even know if Sharingan can trace movements through a screen?

And you are aware that Nightmare Nunnally has a Geass ability that involves seeing the future without limitations, right?

 

[DhampyrX2]

How are you making the judgment of "broken" enough? What techniques are there to be copied in the Geass world? For that matter, do we even know if Sharingan can trace movements through a screen?

And you are aware that Nightmare Nunnally has a Geass ability that involves seeing the future without limitations, right?

I was thinking more of the enhanced perception abilities being able to counter Rolo's Geass, actually. IThe genjutsu components of the Shanringan might also counter Lelouch's compulsions or the Emperor's mind wipes.

And Nightmare of Nunnally is a whole different kettle of fish. This would be set in the original anime seasons one and two. But I agree that Geass is so diverse you almost need the Mangenkyo to compete with it, which is kind of the point. Something older and not quite as advanced going against the various Geass powers of Lelouch, Rolo, and the Emperor.

Granted, the Mangenkyo Saringan has it's own issues (no wormholes please) such as how damaging or broken something like Amaterasu would be, but it's still not Death Perception with its "I look at you, cut the line, you die."

 

[fallacies]

I don't see why Sharingan is necessarily better or more useful than any of the things Luthorne suggested. You're dismissing the capabilities of the ones named without serious consideration.

Again, how do you define how "broken" an eye ability is? What qualifies as useful or not? Would it need to explicitly be able counter a Geass in order to count as useful? Please state the terms by which you are making a judgment.

Mido Ban from Get Backers can induce hallucinations that last for one minute in the real world by looking someone in an eye, three times per day, and it can't be used on the same person more than once on a given day.

The illusion created by the Evil Eye ability named here, for example, lasts one minute in objectivity only. That is, subjective time that passes for the victim could be weeks or months at longest, and the content of the illusion is completely customizable (note that he can appear to use the Evil Eye while inside an illusion). It can also be as mentally damaging as the user wants.

I can think of well over a dozen circumstances where something like this could be useful. And while we're at it, how about Mikuru Beam from volume 2 of the Haruhi novels? IIRC, it's an eye ability that creates a 1 nanometer thick hole through anything at any distance in a straight line, instantly and with no visual cues. It's a perfectly invisible cutting weapon.

These are just examples.

 

[ZeroForever]

well the mystic eyes of death preception that tsukihime shiki has were just a mutation of existing mystic eyes. It's backlash isn't to ones physical health (shiki's health probably were due to other reasons) but more of it strains his brain, as he's comprehending/seeing things that humans really can't truly understand. As such excessive use or using on large scale things like land masses would cause his brain to explode first.

To note on the topic of Mido Ban's ability is that his eye has a backlash of if used more then 3 times in a day you die effect.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvilEye

whole list of them

 

[fallacies]

Classifying eye abilities as "evil eyes" per TVTropes seems more limiting than helpful. Not a fan of the site, personally.

To give an example, the Red Eye of the Kurata tribe in Hunter x Hunter is described initially as an ability that enhanced combat prowess in an unspecified manner, activated when tribe members primed themselves for battle. Later it turns out that the use of the ability is to a great extent personalizable, meaning that the original genetic trait has no consistent function that is true for all Kurata. The character Kurapika's particular iteration of the ability is changing the types of ki manipulation he is skilled with on activation. In other words, the Red Eye activating is simply an "indication" of ability use, and the ability itself has nothing to do with perception or mind control; the eyes are not a source of power.

Emil Castagnier in Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of a New World has an ability called Ratatosk Mode that makes his personality more aggressive and combative. When activated. his eyes turn red.

The eyes of Ichika Tachibana in Uta-Kata glowed more and more red over the course of the series as a result of being primed by an evil being as an avatar of the judgment of humanity -- presumably because she absorbed the power of multiple supernatural entities. However, the eyes themselves had no abilities, and neither did she under normal circumstances.

To some extent, the eyes lighting up *only* as an indication of ability use applies to Geass too.

In a manga I read that I forget the name and details of, there was a character capable of reading two full pages of text in less than a second by greatly accelerating the saccadic movements of his eyes ...

 

[DhampyrX2]

It's not that the Sharingan would be better, its that some of those other abilities would give Suzaku too much of an edge. Any kind of long term precognition pretty much screws Geass users because Suzaku would know how to get out of the way before he's caught in a Geass. Death Perception is so unfair it's sad. The induced hallucinations are pretty much Tsukiyomi, no better no worse.

I admit Tista's eye abilities would be a good match too and I'll have to think about them, I just don't want to make things too easy for Suzaku by giving him ultimate forms of precog.

I can understand a great degree of the Sharingan hate going on, but it is also a good match for Geass without overpowering the nature of Geass in general. Something like Byakugam would be useless without the Jyuuken to back it up. Rinnegan... well if it's the resurrection powers you could really screw with Lulu at least be using his mother, Euphie, etc. as your six paths.

 

[ZeroForever]

Seriously at the pace your going you might as well make one up instead of just selecting pieces of an existing one and altering it to fit your requirements (which will pretty much be the same as making one up). Considering half of the geasses shown aren't really even eye abilities (rollo's and mao's were more mental effects, the eye effect was done just to show it was happening really) does it really have to be a eye move.


Byakugan isn't useless in CG scenerio it would make him impossible to ambush, as well as give him the ability to see any and all hidden soldiers, gear, weapons, as well as full instant view of the local terrain, it would also make the disguises and such useless.