Akamatsuverse Negima manga discussion
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What your probably going to see is several self contained series that get released over time, each one dealing with a single arc.
I suspected this is where it was going. Frankly I don't think Akamatsu actually had that much time to wrap it up. I wouldn't be surprised if this whole thing blew up around Christmas.
What he knew is that his contract was coming up for expiration early this year. The publisher may have dragged things out a bit, waiting to spring this "neighboring copy write" thing on him, and once they did, Akamatsu had enough and bolted.
Now that he's free of contractual obligations, he will periodically return to Negima, and put out various mini series, till all the plot points get resolved.
I don't think its going to end up dragging on like OMG though.
I suspected this is where it was going. Frankly I don't think Akamatsu actually had that much time to wrap it up. I wouldn't be surprised if this whole thing blew up around Christmas.
What he knew is that his contract was coming up for expiration early this year. The publisher may have dragged things out a bit, waiting to spring this "neighboring copy write" thing on him, and once they did, Akamatsu had enough and bolted.
Now that he's free of contractual obligations, he will periodically return to Negima, and put out various mini series, till all the plot points get resolved.
I don't think its going to end up dragging on like OMG though.
In one of the last chapters Evangeline mentioned that she would use Chao's time travel device to travel across the multiverse, and maybe get together with an alternate version of Nagi. There could be a spin-off of Evangeline raveling the multiverse, seeing the sights and trying to have a good time, which always inevitably gets spoiled by a local conflict.
For a fanfic writer, this would be prime crossover material.
For a fanfic writer, this would be prime crossover material.
I'd say gradual reveal would be the better option as it would act as a buffer to the enevitable confusion as nations/people realize that magic is real.
Saying this, Chao's forced recognition spell was actually over months, with plans in place to cover/take care of the chaos of the next 5-10 years.
I still say the former is still the best option, namely because the slow and steady method is best for these kinds of things.
I did kind of find the reason that magic is kept secret laughable though.
Saying this, Chao's forced recognition spell was actually over months, with plans in place to cover/take care of the chaos of the next 5-10 years.
I still say the former is still the best option, namely because the slow and steady method is best for these kinds of things.
I did kind of find the reason that magic is kept secret laughable though.
What was the reason?
Also I believe exposing magic would have it's cons such as possible religious backlash from zealots who see magic as consorting with the devil. (Though we do have Battle Nuns-Misora, Cocone, and Sister Shakti who use magic, but then again Christianity has many branches so it might be just a few groups who use magic).
Plus the freak out over monsters/ghosts being real and how the magic world has been covered up via mind wiping for years. People may be afraid to go out at night or leave home at all. Some might become paranoid and suspicious of their neighbors. Some would give the 'Ignorance is Bliss' argument and that exposing magic might do more harm then good.
Also I believe exposing magic would have it's cons such as possible religious backlash from zealots who see magic as consorting with the devil. (Though we do have Battle Nuns-Misora, Cocone, and Sister Shakti who use magic, but then again Christianity has many branches so it might be just a few groups who use magic).
Plus the freak out over monsters/ghosts being real and how the magic world has been covered up via mind wiping for years. People may be afraid to go out at night or leave home at all. Some might become paranoid and suspicious of their neighbors. Some would give the 'Ignorance is Bliss' argument and that exposing magic might do more harm then good.
That's irrelevant right now. Before we ask about the methods, and morality/validity thereof, to enforce our rights, we should determine what those rights are in the first place.
Also, I'm disturbed that you equate "wanting to keep a secret" = "willing to mind-rape people to keep a secret". :huh: Talk about jumping off the slippery slope. . .
Not to mention Chao was mind-raping people to believe in magic, so it goes both ways.
Attentive Jewish and Catholic religious zealots would know that the Church allows the use of magic, as long as it's from God or used in God's name. King Solomon was a mage, for one. Hell, Jesus was supposedly visited by three magi/mages soon after being born.
That's not a better question. Negima's history, parallel to our own, has most Muggles move away from belief in magic/superstition as time moves on. The idea that Muggles would "know" about magic for millenia, doubt it during the Age of Enlightenment, abandon it in the Modern Age. . . and then suddenly it's inevitable that Muggles (re)discover magic? The entire trend of history, and the whole reason for Chao's spell, was that Muggles aren't likely to figure it out on their own by now. Otherwise, they would never have forgotten about it in the first place.
Also, I'm disturbed that you equate "wanting to keep a secret" = "willing to mind-rape people to keep a secret". :huh: Talk about jumping off the slippery slope. . .
Not to mention Chao was mind-raping people to believe in magic, so it goes both ways.
Attentive Jewish and Catholic religious zealots would know that the Church allows the use of magic, as long as it's from God or used in God's name. King Solomon was a mage, for one. Hell, Jesus was supposedly visited by three magi/mages soon after being born.
That's not a better question. Negima's history, parallel to our own, has most Muggles move away from belief in magic/superstition as time moves on. The idea that Muggles would "know" about magic for millenia, doubt it during the Age of Enlightenment, abandon it in the Modern Age. . . and then suddenly it's inevitable that Muggles (re)discover magic? The entire trend of history, and the whole reason for Chao's spell, was that Muggles aren't likely to figure it out on their own by now. Otherwise, they would never have forgotten about it in the first place.
You're keeping the existance of 1 billion+ lving people, as well as a whole other populatedable planet secret because you're afraid of "misunderstandings and confusion"
At what level are you thinking of? Everyday misunderstandings or the possiblity of war breaking out? Cause if its the latter, I've got to introduce you to this little thing called diplomacy. You know, nations do it all the time.
And harmony? This isn't harmony, its hiding.
And do you have the right to turn a fellow magician into an ermine if he disagrees with you?
At what level are you thinking of? Everyday misunderstandings or the possiblity of war breaking out? Cause if its the latter, I've got to introduce you to this little thing called diplomacy. You know, nations do it all the time.
And harmony? This isn't harmony, its hiding.
And do you have the right to turn a fellow magician into an ermine if he disagrees with you?
People do stupid shit all the time. Is it their right to do so? Even if we think it's laughable, if they want to hide and be left alone, should we drag them into the open?
Legally speaking, it depends on whether you recognize the magical organizations as nations/states with their own laws and such. If they're a sovereign nation, then they have a right to do what has been declared lawful punishment by what constitutes their legal body. If they're not a sovereign nation, then it depends on the laws of the nation (namely Japan) they were in at the moment. This has legal precedent in the formation of the USA, the formation of Communist China, and the formation of the various small countries in Eastern Europe after WWII, the formation of Israel, the formation of the Vatican, etc. (Of course the bigger nation/s often bully the smaller ones anyway, so. . .)
Of course, that goes both ways. If the Magical World decides that all Muggles are squatters (pointing to the large magical population in the "Old World" and the longer history of the magical governments), then legally speaking, they'll be within their rights to either evict every Muggle they catch to Venus. This also has legal precedent and is actually much more common. Everyday, people who have lived for years in a place are forced off their land and follow rules they've never followed before or even known of because the "official" government has never recognized them as a state/nation. The closest (and most ironic) example would probably be when the emergent USA, itself an born of an illegal rebellion, took apart the <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iroquois_Confederacy' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Iroquois Confederacy</a>. If the Magical World tried to reclaim the Old World, it would be entirely legal from their point of view.
Practically speaking? I suspect it boils down to who has the bigger stick. As a federation built of mostly artificial people, the Magical World has its own set of morality, traditions, and laws. A mage turning another mage into an ermine in Japan, is like a US agent shooting an American criminal in Beijing. It would be an international incident either way.
Legally speaking, it depends on whether you recognize the magical organizations as nations/states with their own laws and such. If they're a sovereign nation, then they have a right to do what has been declared lawful punishment by what constitutes their legal body. If they're not a sovereign nation, then it depends on the laws of the nation (namely Japan) they were in at the moment. This has legal precedent in the formation of the USA, the formation of Communist China, and the formation of the various small countries in Eastern Europe after WWII, the formation of Israel, the formation of the Vatican, etc. (Of course the bigger nation/s often bully the smaller ones anyway, so. . .)
Of course, that goes both ways. If the Magical World decides that all Muggles are squatters (pointing to the large magical population in the "Old World" and the longer history of the magical governments), then legally speaking, they'll be within their rights to either evict every Muggle they catch to Venus. This also has legal precedent and is actually much more common. Everyday, people who have lived for years in a place are forced off their land and follow rules they've never followed before or even known of because the "official" government has never recognized them as a state/nation. The closest (and most ironic) example would probably be when the emergent USA, itself an born of an illegal rebellion, took apart the <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iroquois_Confederacy' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Iroquois Confederacy</a>. If the Magical World tried to reclaim the Old World, it would be entirely legal from their point of view.
Practically speaking? I suspect it boils down to who has the bigger stick. As a federation built of mostly artificial people, the Magical World has its own set of morality, traditions, and laws. A mage turning another mage into an ermine in Japan, is like a US agent shooting an American criminal in Beijing. It would be an international incident either way.