Naruto New Divergence Points
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The Raikage's gonna end up (even more of) a cripple with his missing leg, assuming he can even survive falling on a shield of spiked black flames. And supposedly Naruto, Sakura and Ino would go on a revenge trip against Kumo, possibly leading to K12 getting involved then to their parents and then everyone else. Supposedly.
The Raikage's last words to Naruto as they were departing was "I will kill Sasuke. It is up to you to make sure things go no further than that." Considering that Naruto's whole shindig is "ending the cycle of hatred. Why would Ino and Sakura go and attack Kumo?
Do Amaterasu's flames die upon the Sharingan wielder's death, or at least stop spreading? I think they do, otherwise half of the land of fire would be engulfed by Itachi's flames from his battle with Sasuke. I thought the Raikage tried to punch Sasuke to death with his still-burning arm.
Do Amaterasu's flames die upon the Sharingan wielder's death, or at least stop spreading? I think they do, otherwise half of the land of fire would be engulfed by Itachi's flames from his battle with Sasuke. I thought the Raikage tried to punch Sasuke to death with his still-burning arm.
If A died killing Sasuke, or was so crippled he was forced to retire, who would take his place as Raikage? Yugito was already dead at that point and Killer B is not competent enough to lead a village. That leaves Darui... and maybe the rubber guy? Is there anyone else? Man for the supposedly militarily most powerful village, Kumo sure is lacking in individually strong ninja.
This always looked like it would end badly for both of them to me. Crippling looks unavoidable and death seems possible.
Shikamaru makes some melodramatic speech about how Sasuke being killed could lead to war to justify the K12 hunting him down. I'm highly skeptical but I figured it was worth mentioning.
Amaterasu seemed to be burning pretty well even after Itachi's death:
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Presumably, this whole forest got burned to ash over the next few days but there wasn't anywhere else for it to spread to.
Divergence: Kabuto successfully kidnaps Sasuke from the hospital.
Would Orochimaru actually go through with stealing Sasuke's body so early? I was under the impression that Orochimaru was doping Sasuke up with drugs and training him during the timeskip to bring Sasuke's body up to his standards so that when he takes it over he'll be able to use Sage Mode immediately. Not sure he'd be willing to spend any significant amount of time in a vulnerable child's body desperately training and doping to get back up to his old level when he's got so many enemies who would love to take advantage of his momentary weakness.
If Kabuto managed to kidnap Sasuke I imagine Orochimaru would use the extra time to brainwash the boy, as Itachi had not yet broken Sasuke with a second mindrape so he wouldn't follow Orochimaru willingly at that point.
The invasion will probably still happen, since Orochimaru will need to distract/cripple Konoha somehow or they'll just send a team of their heaviest hitters to take him out and bring Sasuke back. Kidnapping the last Uchiha isn't something Hiruzen will just ignore.
With Sasuke's leaving being a kidnapping rather than a defection, Naruto might not be willing to go on the training trip with Jiraiya and will instead want to spend all his time trying to find and rescue his friend. Without the betrayal aspect to convince him Sasuke is a lost cause, Jiraiya might decide to help Naruto with his rescue mission.
Not sure where it would go from there. Would Naruto/Jiraiya/possibly Kakashi manage to save Sasuke? Will Orochimaru elude them? Will Orochimaru manage to steal Sasuke's body for real? Will Itachi hunt Orochimaru down and assassinate him? A lot of divergences could result from this change.
If Kabuto managed to kidnap Sasuke I imagine Orochimaru would use the extra time to brainwash the boy, as Itachi had not yet broken Sasuke with a second mindrape so he wouldn't follow Orochimaru willingly at that point.
The invasion will probably still happen, since Orochimaru will need to distract/cripple Konoha somehow or they'll just send a team of their heaviest hitters to take him out and bring Sasuke back. Kidnapping the last Uchiha isn't something Hiruzen will just ignore.
With Sasuke's leaving being a kidnapping rather than a defection, Naruto might not be willing to go on the training trip with Jiraiya and will instead want to spend all his time trying to find and rescue his friend. Without the betrayal aspect to convince him Sasuke is a lost cause, Jiraiya might decide to help Naruto with his rescue mission.
Not sure where it would go from there. Would Naruto/Jiraiya/possibly Kakashi manage to save Sasuke? Will Orochimaru elude them? Will Orochimaru manage to steal Sasuke's body for real? Will Itachi hunt Orochimaru down and assassinate him? A lot of divergences could result from this change.
What's up with Orochimaru's random suspicion of Kabuto planning to betray him there, and then laughing it off as a joke? Kabuto has been fanatically loyal to Orochimaru the entire manga, and Orochimaru has never shown any sign of mistrusting him outside of that one scene. That scene doesn't seem consistent with the way their relationship is portrayed for the rest of the manga.
Kabuto looks really freaked out by Orochimaru's "joke" as well. Like he actually was going to betray Orochimaru but lost his nerve when Orochimaru made it clear that he knew what Kabuto was planning and basically dared him to go through with it. Or maybe he was totally loyal and was just disturbed that Orochimaru suddenly either doubted him or just wanted to play mind games with him for no reason?
Kabuto looks really freaked out by Orochimaru's "joke" as well. Like he actually was going to betray Orochimaru but lost his nerve when Orochimaru made it clear that he knew what Kabuto was planning and basically dared him to go through with it. Or maybe he was totally loyal and was just disturbed that Orochimaru suddenly either doubted him or just wanted to play mind games with him for no reason?
There is that. Kabuto could have only been recently taken in and Orochimaru kept throwing meaty bits at him to see if he'd bite.
Alternately, the original backstory for Kabuto and Orochimaru could have been changed midway through to fit the storyline. Kabuto seemed to have had an actual bloodline ability earlier when he glared at the Rain-genin and his eyes went all Hulky. Perhaps editors decided against having so many special folks -- we're talking about the same people that thought it was a really good idea to literally last-minute change the story of a 52 page comic and have it have almost no relation to the rest of the story.
Alternately, the original backstory for Kabuto and Orochimaru could have been changed midway through to fit the storyline. Kabuto seemed to have had an actual bloodline ability earlier when he glared at the Rain-genin and his eyes went all Hulky. Perhaps editors decided against having so many special folks -- we're talking about the same people that thought it was a really good idea to literally last-minute change the story of a 52 page comic and have it have almost no relation to the rest of the story.
Well, I'd say that was more to draw a parallel with Orochimaru who had done something similar to Sasuke and Sakura than to indicate a bloodline. Though I do think the original backstory changed somewhere down the line; I don't think there was any indication that Kabuto had ties with Danzo and Root up until it showed up in Kabuto's flashback.
Instead of destabilizing the elemental nations through warfare (by invading Konoha), Orochimaru decides to do it economically by using Edo Tensei for cheap slave labor. And not just by renting out S-rank ninja zombies at prices even Akatsuki can't compete with; he also revives famous inventors to run his R&D departments, charismatic leaders to work public relations, talented engineers for skilled labor, etc. Basically he creates an undead megacorp filled with the best and brightest of human history, none of which require any compensation or upkeep, and all of whom are utterly obedient to him while mostly retaining access to all of their memories and personalities.
I mean really, it would be much easier and more productive than creating a zombie army. No one would be able to fairly compete with his zombie corporation.
I mean really, it would be much easier and more productive than creating a zombie army. No one would be able to fairly compete with his zombie corporation.
Well, Sasuke's a merciful person at this stage so if Deidara gave him the information he wanted then it's likely that he would have left in peace. He isn't as injured as he would be from taking some of the explosion from C0 and less tired from not having to summon Manda. The Itachi Pursuit Team might be less capable of tracking Sasuke without the giant explosion acting as a really obvious clue.
Would this be considered a betrayal by Akatsuki? Deidara might be ejected from the group if its discovered that he gave away information about one of the members to save his own skin (and because of a personal vendetta) so he could end up on the run himself.
Would this be considered a betrayal by Akatsuki? Deidara might be ejected from the group if its discovered that he gave away information about one of the members to save his own skin (and because of a personal vendetta) so he could end up on the run himself.
Obito at least was well aware of Itachi's plan to have a rematch with Sasuke and was counting on it happening in order to awaken Sasuke's Mangekyou and get a chance to manipulate the boy into joining Akatsuki. Nagato also seemed to hold Deidara in high regard and even commanded the others to mourn for Deidara quietly. So I think the leaders at least would let the betrayal slide and forgive Deidara, although he may lose respect from the other members.
Deidara of course, is not just going to let Sasuke's disrespect for his art slide. Even if he doesn't blow himself up he's still going want revenge. He's gonna track Sasuke down again for a rematch eventually. But would he get a chance? Sasuke allies with Akatsuki soon after, so Nagato would likely forbid Deidara from attacking Sasuke again. He'd probably also order Deidara to help capture the remaining bijuu.
Would Deidara defect from Akatsuki just to take another shot at Sasuke? When and where would he track him down for a rematch? Imagine Deidara also cashing the Hokage summit to attack Sasuke!
Or would Deidara stay loyal and follow Nagato to Konoha to help capture Naruto? Would Naruto still win that fight? Or perhaps he'd be sent after Killer B instead of Sasuke. Would Deidara succeed in capturing the 8-tails where Sasuke failed?
Deidara of course, is not just going to let Sasuke's disrespect for his art slide. Even if he doesn't blow himself up he's still going want revenge. He's gonna track Sasuke down again for a rematch eventually. But would he get a chance? Sasuke allies with Akatsuki soon after, so Nagato would likely forbid Deidara from attacking Sasuke again. He'd probably also order Deidara to help capture the remaining bijuu.
Would Deidara defect from Akatsuki just to take another shot at Sasuke? When and where would he track him down for a rematch? Imagine Deidara also cashing the Hokage summit to attack Sasuke!
Or would Deidara stay loyal and follow Nagato to Konoha to help capture Naruto? Would Naruto still win that fight? Or perhaps he'd be sent after Killer B instead of Sasuke. Would Deidara succeed in capturing the 8-tails where Sasuke failed?