Evangelion NGE: Empire Building

#1
I've pulled out this old idea and decided to dust it off to see what you guys can do with it. So strap in.

Soon after the 17th Angel, when Shinji is basically at his lowest, SEELE notices an object entering the solar system at supraluminal velocity. Assuming it might be an Angel, our heroes are pressed to intercept it from the ground with positron cannons as it enters orbit. However, it is not a harbringer of doom but something very different:

Refugees. Refugees from multiple worlds where Lillith-like lifeforms evolved (that is, humanoid life) aboard a faster than light starship. The leader of these exiles issues a general request for aid from the entire world, and it is impossible for SEELE to cover it up. So SEELE bides their time, hoping that this is only a minor delay to their plans.

It isn't to be, however. The aliens have come not just to ask for humanitarian aid, but military aid. Adam-like lifeforms, Angels in other words, have begun invading and destroying their worlds. That's why they had to flee. For most of them, they had only the option of nuclear weapons - None of them ever tried to turn Angels into weapons against Angels.

Only humanity has... And they promise us advanced technology and aid if we will only liberate their homeworlds.

So yes, this is Eva in SPAAACE, where NERV is pressed into interstellar efforts (as these other Angels might threaten Instrumentality) to fight Angels on behalf of these mostly friendly aliens.

What do you think?
 

PCHeintz72

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#2
The issue I have with this is any race sufficiently developed to have FTL and interstellar travel would not be coming to us for aid... material sciences and depending on the method even probably energy and gravity field manipulations must be way beyond even our Evas, as they use in comparison mere fluid both for shock absorbing dampeners and for connecting to the Eva... If it were not, even if they could push something faster than light, they would need equivalently hard metals and some form of dampening system to have a being survive the acceleration.

They might come for sanctuary perhaps, and maybe even offering to add their strength and technology to ours to fight the enemy off here when they failed in their own respective systems.

Plans by Seele and Gendo though, would be fubar...


A different issue... we have no FTL communications, unless some of them were already here, as observers, spies, scouts, whatever, how would they get a signal indicating we were being attacked...

Even accounting for the earliest transmissions, which would be garbled beyond belief since they were never meant to go that far, the Earths Radio Envelope or Sphere is only some 110-113 light years... and realistically far less.

EDIT:
Out of curiosity, would this be a crossover, and if so with what? we have a number of potential series in anime and not we could cross with. Some remnants of the Sailor Wars perhaps? Or a colony world or system from Tenchi backdrop (Jurai, Senawa, etc...? A Predator or Alien cross? Battlestar Galactica (original series had an episode with them getting a radio signal of the moon landing)

Do note there was a somewhat similar setup some years ago, though in that it was a returning human expedition, and only found Shinji and Aska on the beach after 3I, thus they were unaffected since they were offworld. In that, to fix things they sent Asuka and Shinji back in time.
 
#3
Yes, but antimatter explosions take a hell of a toll on land and resources and the atmosphere. The Evas allow for a method to eliminate Angels without blowing yourselves up, and that's what the aliens want. A means of destroying them and keeping the property damage to a minimum.

And it doesn't have to be a crossover. It might work better if you could devise original aliens. Human like ones make sense, of course, because of the properties of Lillith-like beings. And if you're up for it... Female aliens who are very interested in a human male who can slay Angels.
 

rdde

Well-Known Member
#4
In NGE, aren't their N2 weapons yield weaker than regular nuclear weapons? And the particle beam rifle demonstrates that sufficiently powerful weapons will bypass AT fields.

With FTL, you could have kinetic kill vehicles that does better damage than the particle beam rifle. Anything that does more than a few hours of year 2015 Japan's energy output should kill most fortress type Angels.

You'd have to explain why these aliens will not use their advanced technology. A pyrrhic victory ought to be better than letting the vast majority of their population die and losing their homeworlds. Maybe they got betrayed by a SEELE like organisation of their own, but then how will the backwater Earth help the more advanced aliens recover their homeworlds from the more advanced-SEELE like organisations?

Come to think of it, are antimatter explosions in fact dirtier than nuclear explosions? The antimatter would be fully consumed in the explosion, and I think that the resulting byproducts would be less radioactive than fission explosions. Antimatter weapons don't need heavy elements like uranium, and the resulting explosion shouldn't produce any significant amount of heavy elements.
 
#5
The Shinji ending up on a starship approach does have potential on it's own, being on a vessel full of misfits on a mission to find his homeworld and eliminate Angels. To do it right however requires writing a lot of OCs very, very well. Well enough you don't mind the absence of the Eva characters. Not impossible, but difficult. The politics involved would be very alien and yet very human, and of course you get to examine Shinji really and truly on his own having to deal with these things and grow to face them.

The other approach, Earth being contacted first, makes it a bit easier and harder in some ways. I imagine the UN would want the Eva pilots to represent humanity in a positive way - To that end, they'd try to meddle directly in NERV's operations (since SEELE does not have complete and total control over them). When it comes to the Angels the conventional military and government have to rely entirely on NERV - In this instance they might have more leverage given they possess resources NERV would need for liftoff, people who would function as diplomats and translators, not to mention people trained in space operations that NERV would need but the UN would only give up in exchange for certain favors. NERV, however, would be the representatives but they wouldn't have full control over everything. Nor would SEELE, nor would the UN. So you have to account for the human end of the politics.

On the alien side, the races gathered in this Ark might not be fully allied together. They'll have shifting allegiances, their own agendas, especially depending on how they ended up there. Here are some possibilities:

-One or more races of Lillim want to settle on Earth itself, since they are tired of living in space and want a new home after theirs was destroyed. The fact they can breed with humans who were born after Second Impact may be appealing to them, especially if they have a low breeding population to begin with. How they relate to humans could be interesting, especially if NERV is asked to facilitate them colonizing our planet.

-Most of the races would want to use the Evangelions to retake their homeworlds or save their planets before they fall to Angels, but which one to start with is a matter of contention. Do you go to the world with the greatest resources and most advanced technology that would be a major asset to Earth and the rest of the Lillim Alliance? Or do you go to the nearest world, regardless of how important strategically it is, and save it first? And how do the aliens and humans decide which one to go for first?

-Some of the aliens might have different feelings about the use of Evas, from believing it to be an abomination to some perhaps thinking humanity are the closest things to Gods by taming these monsters. Naturally this is going to vary from individual to individual, but remember they ARE aliens so there are going to be different viewpoints on this.

And of course... Cultural faux pas aplenty, given these are several different cultures all interacting for the first time.

- - - - -

The meeting room in NERV was spartan, but filled with comfortable furniture. And Shinji had been told to stay here... With his new adviser. An ambassador from the ship.

Shinji frowned thoughtfully as he looked at the... Well, alien next to him. The Lillim rep, who had been sent down as his adviser for all things alien, was actually very pretty. She was named Mu, and she had deep black hair that hung from under a strange organic like cap on her head, white and yellow skin, pointed ears, red eyes, and what looked like yellow wings that would retract and extend depending on her mood. Her clothing consisted of a tanktop and panties, somewhat bulky as they distributed water to her skin. As for the wings, they didn't let her fly, she explained, only swim.

"Mu Lillim... Are am... Am..." She frowned, licking her lips as she tried to recall the precise word.

"Amphibious?" Shinji asked. Mu nodded.

"Yes! Live water, on land. Our world very beautiful. Ships and people. Cities on and above water. Had rockets, too." She grinned. "Mu watched one when little. Launch... Rotating...?" She struggled. "Bounce... Signal...?"

"Satellite?" Shinji again guessed. Mu nodded again.

"Yes! Satellite... Then Old Ones come." She frowned. "Mu's Lillim fight back. Lose..." She pointed up at the sky, where the Ark was orbiting far above. "Send stars for help. Home ship come. Take away. Then take here."

"Wow," Shinji breathed. "How long have you been on the ship?"

Mu frowned again, concentrating on forming the words as she did the calculations. "One circle... Around your star... Is... One and some circle around... My star, so... Was eight circles around your star when leave... Seven circles around your star. On ship," she finally decided.

Shinji shook his head, hardly able to imagine it. "Seven years in space... Wow. I can't imagine it. You... You must have been really brave."

"Brave?" Mu asked, her cheeks turning red as did her wings. "Mu not brave... Shinji fight Old Ones. Very brave." She extended her wings around him, and leaned in close. Shinji blushed as well, and Mu grinned, showing off pointy teeth.

"Uh... Th-Thanks," he said. "Um... So..."

As uncomfortable as he felt, he did recall that Misato told him to "be diplomatic! Be understanding! They're aliens, after all! Be patient! And don't slouch, it's unattractive!"

"So, how old Shinji?" Mu asked.

"Uh... F-Fifteen... Circles around my star," He explained. Mu smiled.

"Shinji... Have... Girlfriend?" She asked.

"Ahhh... N-No."

"Want one?"

"... Sure?"

"Okay!" Mu said cheerfully, pouncing on him.

"ACK! H-Hey, hang on, hang on!"

In his office, Gendo watched over the feed from the window with a deadpan expression as his son ran from the amorous alien girl. He sighed and leaned back in his chair. Fuyutsuki, ever at his side, allowed a small smile to form.

"Perhaps you should have shown him Star Trek after all, Gendo."

"Perhaps I should have, Sensei..."

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alucard964

Well-Known Member
#6
As uncomfortable as he felt, he did recall that Misato told him to "be diplomatic! Be understanding! They're aliens, after all! Be patient! And don't slouch, it's unattractive!"

"So, how old Shinji?" Mu asked.

"Uh... F-Fifteen... Circles around my star," He explained. Mu smiled.

"Shinji... Have... Girlfriend?" She asked.

"Ahhh... N-No."

"Want one?"

"... Sure?"

"Okay!" Mu said cheerfully, pouncing on him.

"ACK! H-Hey, hang on, hang on!"

In his office, Gendo watched over the feed from the window with a deadpan expression as his son ran from the amorous alien girl. He sighed and leaned back in his chair. Fuyutsuki, ever at his side, allowed a small smile to form.

"Perhaps you should have shown him Star Trek after all, Gendo."

"Perhaps I should have, Sensei..."

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That would be an awesome fic. Shinji with his main inspiration being kirk. hijinks ensues.
 
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