Nintendo Wii

SimmyC

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#26
I'm well aware of that. Heck, that's why I've 'waited' before something even resembling what the game will actually look like are released. For example, Tekken. First video... well, it wasn't that great either but it was obviously CGI. Later? They should a video that was DEFINATELY not CGI since, well, it stank.

Though I was thinking more about that FPS that was shown that everyone went :p~ over. While it would be awesome if that was what the real game look like, obviously, I'm taking a wait and see approach to it. No way will I take it as face value, and no should either. <_<

That being said, other games that have made an appearance so far, like the one with the alien invasion set in the WWIIish setting, and Assassin (even though it is now confirmed for the Xbox 360), all have tickled my fancy.

Now yes, pretty graphics can only go so far (case in point, PSP vs. Nintendo DS. Despite prettier graphics, Nintendo DS is pwn3ding the PSP due to the number of games for tha latter). Still, it made in interested in the PS3 at this stage.
 
#27
This topic of conversation doesn't concern me, as I won't be getting any of the new systems until late next year.
 

Antimatter

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#28
SimmyC said:
I'm well aware of that. Heck, that's why I've 'waited' before something even resembling what the game will actually look like are released. For example, Tekken. First video... well, it wasn't that great either but it was obviously CGI. Later? They should a video that was DEFINATELY not CGI since, well, it stank.

Though I was thinking more about that FPS that was shown that everyone went :p~ over. While it would be awesome if that was what the real game look like, obviously, I'm taking a wait and see approach to it. No way will I take it as face value, and no should either. <_<

That being said, other games that have made an appearance so far, like the one with the alien invasion set in the WWIIish setting, and Assassin (even though it is now confirmed for the Xbox 360), all have tickled my fancy.

Now yes, pretty graphics can only go so far (case in point, PSP vs. Nintendo DS. Despite prettier graphics, Nintendo DS is pwn3ding the PSP due to the number of games for tha latter). Still, it made in interested in the PS3 at this stage.
I'm well aware of that. Heck, that's why I've 'waited' before something even resembling what the game will actually look like are released. For example, Tekken. First video... well, it wasn't that great either but it was obviously CGI. Later? They should a video that was DEFINATELY not CGI since, well, it stank.
same here. I don't even read previews for games until I see ingame videos posted that weren't cut by the developers (ie, a hands on from the previewer). blame the bouncer for this.

Now yes, pretty graphics can only go so far (case in point, PSP vs. Nintendo DS. Despite prettier graphics, Nintendo DS is pwn3ding the PSP due to the number of games for tha latter).
Ds is a great little system that really caught me because of the nitche games on it. Those types of games are the same reason I bought a ps2 back in the day.
 

Fatuous One

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#29
More news on the Wii-Wii front.

Source

As Nintendo officially revealed details about the Wii's Japanese launch in Tokyo, a New York Times report answered the questions on millions of US gamers' minds: When will the Wii go on sale here? What will it cost? How many games will it have at launch?

As it turns out, the console will arrive on Sunday, November 19, in North America and South America, according to the Times. That puts the console's launch just two days after that of its archrival, the PlayStation 3, which has recently seen its own debut scaled down.

But while only 400,000 PS3s will be available at launch, the Times claims that the Wii will be "far more available in stores this holiday season" than its competitor due to its cheaper and simpler form factor. The company now plans to ship 4 million Wiis worldwide by the end of 2006, nearly double the 2 million to 2.3 million shipped PS3s Sony is now forecasting.

As many suspected, the Wii will cost $250 in the US, according to the article. Since Nintendo executives have said it would be under $250, the likely final price will be $249.99 or $249.95. It will also reportedly have over 25 first- and third-party games available at launch, with up to 30 on shelves by the end of the year. First-party games will cost just $50, $10 less than most third-party PS3 and Xbox 360 games; it was unclear what third-party Wii games will cost.

The report also said that the classic NES, SNES, and N64 games downloadable to the Wii's virtual console would range from $5-10 in price, in line with most Xbox Live Arcade games. Some 30 titles will be available at launch, including unnamed installments from the Donkey Kong, Zelda, and Mario franchises.

But while many had hoped for a console that cost $199--or less--the Wii will have something not seen in a Nintendo launch since the SNES--a game packed in with a console from day one. (Note: Several GameCube bundles were offered post-launch.) As rumored, the console will come with the Wii Sports compilation that was shown off at E3 earlier this year. The game comp will allow players to engage in bouts of baseball, bowling, golf, and tennis using the Wii's motion-sensing controller.

"Our goal is to bring gaming back to the masses," Nintendo of America president and chief operating officer Reggie Fils-Aime told the Times. "You see that in our pricing, you see that in the number of units we plan to make available this year and you see that in how we are positioning the Wii to appeal to every member of the household, including but not limited to the hardcore gamer."

The Times also re-confirmed that the most anticipated game for the Wii, The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, will be available by the end of the year, as will Excite Truck. However, the first Mario game for the console will now reportedly not arrive at retail until 2007.

The article also claims the Wii will have Web-surfing capabilities akin to that of a home computer. "Perhaps most intriguing, the Wii will make it possible to browse the Web on the television," said the report. "Microsoft's Xbox 360 does not permit this because that could negate the need to buy a Windows PC." Attempts to clarify the Wii's exact Internet capabilities with Nintendo reps had been unsuccessful as of press time, most likely because of the late hour.

Nintendo also appears to be moving away from its GameCube-era "game consoles should be for games only" mantra. Besides the Wii's previously announced DVD playback abilities, the console will also have many multimedia functions. "There will be a photo channel that will allow users to use the Wii to display digital photographs on television," read the report. "There also will be an easy-to-use interactive news channel and weather channel." [UPDATE 7] These media functions are demonstrated at length via a series of videos on the Japanese Wii.com Web site.

"We are including all of these capabilities as part of our overall strategy to expand the gaming market," Fils-Aime told the Times. "Broadening the market is important because it will breathe new life into this business. Otherwise, this industry is moving down a path of being more and more limited to the hardcore gamer."

As for Europe, Nintendo is holding an event in London on Friday to reveals its Wii launch plans for that continent.
Mixed feelings on half of this stuff, it might be useful... or might bomb horribly. Not that that's anything new.
 
#30
Nintendo has a knack for taking risks and getting huge payoffs from them.
 

Lumias

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#31
Well if i buy any system in the forseeable future it will be the Wii, I'd prefer a PS3, but it's just so damn expensive it's not worth it. Nintendo might be taking risks with their stuff, but due to their low price tag people will be willing to buy despite their uncertainty about the Wii.
 

SimmyC

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#32
If I ever buy the Nintendo Wii, it would be solely for the games. All the extra stuff, would be the same with say, the PS2 or PS3. Nice, but it is a game system first for me.

So far, Nintendo is on the right track. Funny thing is, you could argue that they didn't take a huge amount of risk on one hand, and a lot on the other. Risk for being the most powerful system out there? Nope. No one will ever say that the Nintendo Wii is the most powerful system compared to the Xbox 360 and certainly not the PS3. The big risk here however, is the controller. If the Nintendo Wii succeeds, it will be on the back of the controller.

And when I say success, I don't mean number 1, or even number 2. They did okay with the Gamecube as number 3 (which is arguable given the Xbox's lack of success in certain markets), they will do well with the Nintendo Wii given the lower risk in terms of cost to them.
 

Antimatter

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#33
Dark Knight Gafgar said:
Nintendo has a knack for taking risks and getting huge payoffs from them.
Virtual boy not withstanding.

although I must admit, warrioland, mario's tenis,and mario crash were awesome games.
 

Antimatter

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#35
Dark Knight Gafgar said:
Antimatter said:
Dark Knight Gafgar said:
Nintendo has a knack for taking risks and getting huge payoffs from them.
Virtual boy not withstanding.
Point.
I've always wanted them to take a second stab at it too. If they could hella miniturize it, give us full color, and decent games, it would be awesome.

Always been surpised that some decades after its advent, VR never made it home in any real fashion. the Wii's controller harkens back to the ones used for VR, but it seems no one wants to take the last step into true 3d gaming.

Too bad you can't combine TV glasses with the wii. that woudl be hella awesome.
 
#36
Didn't I read somewhere that there's actually government legislation in the US that bans development of VR systems for home use, or something to that effect?
 

Antimatter

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#37
Dark Knight Gafgar said:
Didn't I read somewhere that there's actually government legislation in the US that bans development of VR systems for home use, or something to that effect?
Why in the heck would they do that?

wait, just remembered what nation we were talkign about. Yeah, I coudl see them doing something like that. Its no stupider than the normal stuff they pull.
 

toraneko

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#38
Don't assume it's truth until you see a reputable source cited, guys. Not saying it isn't, but if it's false, you'll just look like an ass.
 

Light02

Well-Known Member
#39
ah yes the Wii and the controler that looks like I can break without breaking a sweat (and that's not some mean feat for me), personally XBox is a glorifed gaming pc with a custom OS with crap games save 4 games (Halo 1 and 2, and KotOR 1 and 2), PS3 has the most games I want to play and now the 400 price tag (so far rummored now as the offical price for the PS3) is out of range for me. Now for the Wii, while all the features are good an all, I just don't trust the motion sensing gemick (yes I called a gemick I went there). personally I won't commit to the Wii until I try it out.
 

toraneko

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#40
:headbanger:
Please try to format your posts in some close approximation of English. Massive run-on sentences are hard to read.
 

GenocideHeart

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#41
Nintendo likes to take 50/50 crapshoots. For each GBA and DS, we have a R.O.B., Power Glove, N64 or Virtual Boy.

The fact the Wii's remote pad reminds me (unpleasantly) of the bomb that was the Philips cd-I (which, incidentally, Nintendo supported and cooperated to), makes me feel the Wii will be yet another bomb.
 

Mighty Bob

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#42
Personally what I'd like to see, is Nintendo just drop the whole console deal entirely and focus on games and their handheld empire (lets face it, in the face of the Almighty Gameboy, and it's heir the DS, all other handheld systems have failed. The PSP is still hanging on, but there's a serious lack of games that make it worth owning. Still got fingers crossed for the PS1 emulator though) Several Gamecube only games I'd like to play, but I can't justify buying it just for a few games (did that with the N64 for Ocarina of Time and GoldenEye, the thing collected dust forevermore afterwards) Sure that trend'll continue with the Wii.
 

toraneko

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#43
My N64 actually got quite a bit of mileage. Actually, it still does. Mario Kart 64 and the original Super Smash Bros. still have a bit of life left in them, Goldeneye still gets played, Rogue Squadron and Starfox 64 help fill the gap of starfighter games, etc.

I don't think of the N64 as a failure, but I don't deny that it can't be rightly called a success. It just couldn't keep up with the capabilities of the PSX, and when the PS2 came out, it was just plain over.

The Gamecube has a similar story: Many great games, but ultimately not a truly successful system.

As for Nintendo's support of the CD-i... what? Even if they did, what does that have to do with it? The Wiimote (heh) is forward-thinking design at work - breaking new ground, and still providing for more adaptability in the future.
 
#44
The N64 had it's charms. It wasn't as powerful as the PSX, but I still had a lot of fun with it.
 

Lumias

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#45
I still use my N64 from time to time for F-Zero X, StarFox 64, and Ogre Battle 64
 
#46
Mario 64 was and remains one of the greatest games ever, for any platform.
 

armedlord

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#47
GenocideHeart said:
Nintendo likes to take 50/50 crapshoots. For each GBA and DS, we have a R.O.B., Power Glove, N64 or Virtual Boy.
Come to think of it, I kind of liked the Power Glove mainly because of the idea it did and not the tech and the difficulty it had in it at the time. That and it looked cool to me.

In fact, I'd prefer them remaking the friggin Power Glove instead of making a controller that looks like a badly made fishing rod/vibrator. If they're trying to make us do crazy movements with a controller, I'd prefer that it would be not from the Wiimote. I mean, we do have the technology to make the Power Glove more better and less straining on the arm right? (I mean, there's a P5 Glove for the PC so it seems plusible to do so)
 

ttestagr

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#48
My cousin had a power glove, and back then I thought it was the coolest thing that existed.
 

Mighty Bob

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#49
I'm still surprised the Power Glove didn't do better. Back in the day Nintendo's main market (actually this is still somewhat true today) was really young boys. And myself and everyone else I knew back then thought it was the coolest looking thing on the planet.

Then again we also all loved Voltron and Thunder Cats so I suppose ~10 year olds opinions of whats 'cool' are somewhat suspect.
 
#50
Well for me, I would have to say that a system's strength isnt just the power, but the support. You can have a beast of a machine but if no supports it and all you have like pong, what can you do?

I will most likely end up buying a Wii and definetly getting a DS lite, but thats about it.

Why?

Games.

Almost all my previous systems were bought because of games and fun potential. I don't own a xbox/360, and unless one is simply given to me, I probably never will.

As for as fancy graphics go, If I want graphical prowess, Ill upgrade my computer. It would be more expensive then a PS3 but hey, I would love it that much more. Supreme Commander FTW!

As for the Wii, I would be tempted just for Zelda. Have it at thee bush! Though I will admit that my arm will fall off or the controller will drop from my overly sore hands post first dungeon cause yea, I would be swinging my sword like a mad peasant =D

Also Disgaea was a wicked game, but how much graphical power did that engine require!?!? PSX?!?

While PS3 and Xbox360 tote graphics, power, and eletric bills, Nintendo uses voodoo and pretends to be fun. So i'll fold and go Nintendo.

I say quality over quantity/graphics cause fun = win. Except DoA, cause Boobs = win =D. Unless you have Quality + Graphics + Boobs. Then you have a franchise and Uber Win =D

Nintendo should have the Wii-glove and a game with a groping theme. Then I would totally own a Wii. :lol:
 
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