Once Upon a Time

sith2886

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#1
<a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rga4rp4j5TY' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rga4rp4j5TY</a>

This has piqued my interest considerably.
 

Prince Charon

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#2
Interesting concept. Might watch it.
 

DhampyrX2

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#3
The Frozen arc is pretty good so far. And I kind of geeked out when Rumpelstiltskin/the Beast summoned Yen Sid's hat. I still have hopes for the appearance of, if not Sora, then possible King Mickey. Or at least a Heartless showing up. Because let's face it, a crossover town like that almost begs for a Kingdom Hearts arc.

Edit: And am I the only one that wouldn't mind a swerve where Regina's son ends up being Sora somehow?
 

DhampyrX2

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#4
I know I've mentioned this before, but I could swear it's happening. Did I mis hear or did Merlin tell Regina, Snow, Charming, and Henry to seek out Namine?

Might we see Kingdom Hearts being connected to the Dark One?
 

gojiita

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#5
No, that was Nimueh, his lover/nemesis in Arthurian legend, if I remember correctly. The little Disney-owned easter eggs are fun. They mentioned Marvel characters when telling Henry he didn't need powers like Wolverine to be a hero a few seasons back. They probably won't actually bring in any characters though, and probably not from KH or Star Wars either, since their fanbase is more Disney-focused than the other properties they own. The threat of derailing what they've got going on is too high.
 

DhampyrX2

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#6
I don't know, the current Dark One arc almost sounds tailor made for at least the use of a Keyblade, even if Sora never shows up. And the Frozen and Brave arcs have both met with plenty of success. Although I was upset when they made the Sorcerer Merlin instead of Yen Sid. Especially after it was clearly Yen Sid's hat that they used.

EDIT: Although that puts a nasty spin on the coming episodes as it's pretty heavily implied that Nimueh was the Dark One to imprison Merlin 1000 years ago.
 

DhampyrX2

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#7
Actually, now that I think about it, and depending on how the sequel they are working on goes, I could see a Descendants arc somewhere around season 7 or 8. Imagine how it would mess with Regina's mind to meet Evie. Or for Mal to meet Maleficent and Lily. And the best part is all the actual actors could still be used.
 

DhampyrX2

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#8
Okay, did I miss something over the last five seasons? How the hell did Ruby end up enslaved by the witch from Brave? Shouldn't she be in Storybrooke? Because last I checked there were in the current Enchanted Forest, not the Enchanted Forest several years in the past. Seriously, WTF?
 

gojiita

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#9
Well, there was the time (one of the season finales a while back) that everyone from Storybrooke was sent back to the (current) Enchanted Forest, right? Then they came back with no memories of that time, Emma was living with Henry in New York, and Hook had to retrieve them to break the memory loss? Maybe Red just wasn't one of the ones sent back to Storybrooke (by Zelena's curse) because she took off to find werewolves, at which point she became enslaved.
 

DhampyrX2

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#10
They added an asspull explanation later that she went back with a magic bean that they managed to grow, despite continual failure with other attempts, just after baby Neal was named because she was lonely without any of her own kind around. Which made zero sense given that Granny was a werewolf too even if she was too old to shift, she was Ruby's only living blood family, and the fact Ruby had a pack for all of a day or two before she was forced to kill her own mother to protect Snow when they had been on the run in the Enchanted Forest. Plus she was never thrilled about BEING a werewolf after learning she was the Big Bad Wolf and the one that had eaten Peter.

Of course, after the stuff the revealed about Hook later in the episode, this seems to be the season of epic ass-pulls.
 

DhampyrX2

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#11
Alright, place you bets people, who here figures Rumple will end up killing Hook or absorbing his new powers as the Dark One to return the status quo?
 

gojiita

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#12
Hmm, I haven't seen the latest episode, but I just fully saw the Bear King. I prefer my explanation better. Ruby just taking off with the last magic bean means she ignored anyone else who might have wanted to return home. And that thing with Hook? I'm guessing it'll be explained in the episode I'll watch tonight, but this season's got me pretty confused. I've got all these questions but I guess I'll see if they're answered by the latest episode.
 

DhampyrX2

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#13
gojiita said:
Hmm, I haven't seen the latest episode, but I just fully saw the Bear King. I prefer my explanation better. Ruby just taking off with the last magic bean means she ignored anyone else who might have wanted to return home. And that thing with Hook? I'm guessing it'll be explained in the episode I'll watch tonight, but this season's got me pretty confused. I've got all these questions but I guess I'll see if they're answered by the latest episode.
Last night's episode had plenty of explanations and Emma staring to actually act like Emma again.  The only ones acting like idiots now are Hook and one other I won't spoil for you.  Especially Hook.  And expect next week's mid-season finale to be way over the top with that happened at the end of the episode.

Also, I think Emma's earlier question to Merlin about being able to use the Darkness while staying good to become a self-fulfilling prophecy for her as it seems she was mostly unchanged by it after all.  (Which means she literally took a bullet for Regina for no reason because if there is anyone that would have been better equipped to handle the Darkness and know how to use it without losing yourself it would have been Regina.)

And honestly I hated the thought of Ruby returning at all for all of the reasons I had listed before.  Come up with a better excuse as to why your actress was out working on other projects.
 

DhampyrX2

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#14
I've got to admit, that was the best double-cross/swerve I could have imagined for the mid-season finale. I have been reminded why I think of Rumple as one of my favorite characters.
 

DhampyrX2

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#15
Anyone else get the feeling that Belle is only really attracted to Rumple when he's the Dark One?
 

DhampyrX2

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#16
I really wish they would have shelled out the budget for James Woods as Hades for the Underworld arc, but I do admit I geeked out a bit when his hair ignited into blue fire there at the end of the mid-season premiere.

Also, would someone explain to me how the hell Henry Sr. moving on to "A better place" aka Heaven/the Elysian Fields/Paradise takes him out of Hades' domain? Hades rules ALL of the underworld, including the Elysian Fields. If anything he should be happy someone in limbo was finally sorted and placed where he belonged. Also, why is Regina the major threat to everyone getting out of limbo? Hades seemed like he could care less about Emma and the others. Is Regina going to be the key to everything this time because of her redemption?
 

DhampyrX2

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#17
Am I the only one that feels like they have squandered the entire second half of the fifth season for Once Upon a Time?

I mean making Red and Dorothy True Loves was okay, I guess, minus the media hype of putting a lesbian relationship into the show when it wasn't the ones fans actually cared about. Or the fact Red never showed anything approaching interest in women until that moment. But the rest of it? How did they mess things up so bad that Hades was essentially the Devil and Zeus was playing God? Emma getting another bounty hunter looking for her killed while looking for her family and then becoming her clone? And how ham-handed was then entire climax so far between Robin's death, Zelena having to pick her sister over Hades, Hades being basically a cartoon-ish super-villain, Arthur getting redeemed in the Underworld all of five minutes after he was killed, to freaking Hook getting a respawn literally the moment Robin's funeral ended?

And now they're going to tease Regina losing herself to grief enough people are afraid she'll become the Evil Queen again and Henry going rogue to try to destroy magic to "save" her the way he wanted to when he was freaking ten back in season 2. You know the thing she quietly explained was the worst idea ever all the way back then? I mean, I expect finales for Once to end on a cliffhanger that will hurt. And the fact one of the season six arcs is an insane asylum arc means it has potential. But come on, the whole underworld plot should have been wrapped up in life four episodes and that includes Zelena's redemption (and Cora's but the less said about that one the better). I mean really, the only thing then entire season that showed any guys or creativity was Rumple killing off Milah in the river of souls. Everything else was just... slapped together.
 

DhampyrX2

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#18
Congratulations Henry, it took two more years to prove you are a certified retard.
 

gojiita

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#19
DhampyrX2 said:
Am I the only one that feels like they have squandered the entire second half of the fifth season for Once Upon a Time?  

I mean making Red and Dorothy True Loves was okay, I guess, minus the media hype of putting a lesbian relationship into the show when it wasn't the ones fans actually cared about.  Or the fact Red never showed anything approaching interest in women until that moment.  But the rest of it?  How did they mess things up so bad that Hades was essentially the Devil and Zeus was playing God?  Emma getting another bounty hunter looking for her killed while looking for her family and then becoming her clone? And how ham-handed was then entire climax so far between Robin's death, Zelena having to pick her sister over Hades, Hades being basically a cartoon-ish super-villain, Arthur getting redeemed in the Underworld all of five minutes after he was killed, to freaking Hook getting a respawn literally the moment Robin's funeral ended?

And now they're going to tease Regina losing herself to grief enough people are afraid she'll become the Evil Queen again and Henry going rogue to try to destroy magic to "save" her the way he wanted to when he was freaking ten back in season 2. You know the thing she quietly explained was the worst idea ever all the way back then?  I mean, I expect finales for Once to end on a cliffhanger that will hurt.  And the fact one of the season six arcs is an insane asylum arc means it has potential.  But come on, the whole underworld plot should have been wrapped up in life four episodes and that includes Zelena's redemption (and Cora's but the less said about that one the better).  I mean really, the only thing then entire season that showed any guys or creativity was Rumple killing off Milah in the river of souls.  Everything else was just... slapped together.
It feels like this might be the last season. They sure seem to be wrapping things up as quickly as possible. Next they might bring back Pinocchio for an episode to tie up his loose end in 20 minutes. Or just give him a cameo to show that he fixed himself while he was away and now he'll go live a quiet life with Geppetto.

And I haven't seen the last episode yet, but Henry was always a dumb character. Or maybe there's something in Storybrooke's water that makes men useless or villains and it's catching up to him. I still remember that cringe-worthy scene with Neil and Hook fighting over fire or something to impress Emma.
 

DhampyrX2

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#20
gojiita said:
DhampyrX2 said:
Am I the only one that feels like they have squandered the entire second half of the fifth season for Once Upon a Time?  

I mean making Red and Dorothy True Loves was okay, I guess, minus the media hype of putting a lesbian relationship into the show when it wasn't the ones fans actually cared about.  Or the fact Red never showed anything approaching interest in women until that moment.  But the rest of it?  How did they mess things up so bad that Hades was essentially the Devil and Zeus was playing God?  Emma getting another bounty hunter looking for her killed while looking for her family and then becoming her clone? And how ham-handed was then entire climax so far between Robin's death, Zelena having to pick her sister over Hades, Hades being basically a cartoon-ish super-villain, Arthur getting redeemed in the Underworld all of five minutes after he was killed, to freaking Hook getting a respawn literally the moment Robin's funeral ended?

And now they're going to tease Regina losing herself to grief enough people are afraid she'll become the Evil Queen again and Henry going rogue to try to destroy magic to "save" her the way he wanted to when he was freaking ten back in season 2. You know the thing she quietly explained was the worst idea ever all the way back then?  I mean, I expect finales for Once to end on a cliffhanger that will hurt.  And the fact one of the season six arcs is an insane asylum arc means it has potential.  But come on, the whole underworld plot should have been wrapped up in life four episodes and that includes Zelena's redemption (and Cora's but the less said about that one the better).  I mean really, the only thing then entire season that showed any guys or creativity was Rumple killing off Milah in the river of souls.  Everything else was just... slapped together.
It feels like this might be the last season. They sure seem to be wrapping things up as quickly as possible. Next they might bring back Pinocchio for an episode to tie up his loose end in 20 minutes. Or just give him a cameo to show that he fixed himself while he was away and now he'll go live a quiet life with Geppetto.

And I haven't seen the last episode yet, but Henry was always a dumb character. Or maybe there's something in Storybrooke's water that makes men useless or villains and it's catching up to him. I still remember that cringe-worthy scene with Neil and Hook fighting over fire or something to impress Emma.
There will definitely be a season six with a decent premise.  Basically there was a second "fictional character" universe/realm called the Land of Forgotten Stories that was being run my Mr Hyde.  And Rumple has of course been there and made an enemy of Hyde.  He basically sells Storybrooke to him to get a cure for Belle's Sleeping Curse (after making Hyde his bitch in all of five seconds with his version of a Force Choke).  But that's not the more interesting part.  The most interesting part (even if the set-up for it was just as slapped together as the rest of this season) was that Regina used a formula Dr Jekyll developed to separate himself from Mr Hyde in order to separate herself from and (secretly fail to) destroy the Evil Queen.  So you will have redeemed Regina but you also get the Evil Queen as a major villain again.  One that presumably doesn't care about disappointing Henry and can actually BE the Evil Queen.
 

gojiita

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#21
Just saw that. I think that second universe is a callback to a multi storyverse that was introduced with Dr. Frankenstein back in season 1 (?). And the whole Evil Queen within Regina like a second personality was totally slapped together. I have to wonder how evil she'll actually be. And if this doesn't end with Regina re-fusing with her to keep her contained in the end because you can't destroy evil or something.
 
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