Naruto One in ten is simply not good enough.

[Targaryen]

As the title suggests, Orochimaru is quite unsatisfied with the fact that his shot at sharingan eyes has a ninety percent chance of dying when he applies the seal. So he decides to hedge his bets, and when he seals Sasuke, he also takes a single sharingan eye from him. Sure, stealing an eye makes it less likely that Sasuke will join him of his own free will (or possibly more likely, if he plays his cards right with a "join me, and receive not only power but your other eye back" deal), but the chance of losing the sharingan forever if Sasuke dies is just too great to risk.

Where do things go from here? How does Sasuke go from here? Does he stay in Konoha? Does he leave? And more importantly....how the hell does Konoha react to Orochimaru having the sharingan?

 

[ankokudaishogun]

...you'd think a massive head trauma would LESSEN Sasuke's chance to survive the Cursed Seal.

Also, Orochimaru doesn't care too much about the Sharingan itself, as much as he craves Sasuke's superior body .

 

[datakim]

...you'd think a massive head trauma would LESSEN Sasuke's chance to survive the Cursed Seal.

Also, Orochimaru doesn't care too much about the Sharingan itself, as much as he craves Sasuke's superior body .

Given what we know now, it seems probable that Orochimaru intended to possess Sasuke, then implant himself with Hashiramas DNA just like Madara, and awaken the rinnegan. Kabuto certainly implies that they were researching/aware of this. Orochimarus ultimate goal was probably to become what edo!Madara is right now.

As for the basic idea. It would make more sense to hang around covertly after placing the seal to observe if Sasuke lives, and then take his corpse for eye extraction if he dies. Infact, Kabutos convenient appearance may well have been for that purpose. Orochimaru may have ordered him to help the team pass if Sasuke lived, or kill Naruto and Sakura and run away with Sasukes corpse if he died.

Still, if we go by the idea, it is worth asking. Does Konoha have any spare sharingans in storage? I mean given that Kakashi has proven that sharingans can be helpfull, you would assume that a shinobi village would have extracted atleast a few sharingans from the dead Uchiha and put them to storage.

Or heck, what would happen if Orochimaru did take an eye, and Kakashi decides to give his sharingan to Sasuke, knowing it will work better for him and remove Sasukes desire to go to Orochimaru. How would Sasuke react once he realises that the eye he got from Kakashi is actually a Mangekyo Sharingan.

Or maybe Itachi realises that with Sasuke having lost an eye, his plans of suicide by Sasuke are ruined (he would find it hard to fake a realistic life&death battle against a "crippled" Sasuke), and so he fakes somekind of attack on Konoha where he is "overwhelmed" and killed. Maybe attack Jiraiya or somesuch on the pretense of kidnapping Naruto and then make sure he loses in a way that leaves his head intact. That way Sasuke can get his eye (which could lead to Sasuke awakening an EMS pre-timeskip).

 

[Altered Nova]

The eyes on their own are not that useful to Orochimaru. He presumably could have gotten some Sharingan from Danzou if that's all he really wanted, so I'm confident that Orochimaru really wanted a strong Uchiha body in order to bring out the full power of the eyes (and to be able to master Senjutsu). Probably the Rinnegan can only be unlocked by an Uchiha, Madara is the only person besides the Sage who has actually done it after all.

And I'm not convinced that the cursed seal really had a 90% chance to kill the recipient. Orochimaru doesn't strike me as that much of a risk-taker by thinking up an ultimate plan that basically required winning the lottery. I think it was more like surviving the cursed seal application requires incredibly strong willpower, and 90% of those he gave it to lacked that willpower. That it, it had a 90% death rate in practice, but it wasn't random. You could reasonably predict who would survive by observing how the recipient responded under intense stress. In fact I suspect that's why Orochimaru humored Sasuke by fighting him in the forest of death for so long instead of just biting him as soon as they met - Orochimaru was testing Sasuke. Sasuke proved himself by resisting Orochimaru's killing intent, manning up and putting up a damn good fight. This showed that he probably had strong enough willpower to survive a cursed seal. I bet that if Sasuke had instead cracked under the killing intent and tried to run away or surrender, then Orochimaru wouldn't have given him the cursed seal.

Hell that could be a good divergence. What if Naruto didn't goad Sasuke into fighting the disguised Orochimaru and Team 7 had instead tried to surrender to him? What was Orochimaru's "plan B" if he thought Sasuke was too weak to survive the cursed seal?

 

[datakim]

The eyes on their own are not that useful to Orochimaru. He presumably could have gotten some Sharingan from Danzou if that's all he really wanted, so I'm confident that Orochimaru really wanted a strong Uchiha body in order to bring out the full power of the eyes (and to be able to master Senjutsu). Probably the Rinnegan can only be unlocked by an Uchiha, Madara is the only person besides the Sage who has actually done it after all.

Its possible it would work the other way around too though.

That is to say, extract eyes from an Uchiha, and implant into an Uzumaki/Senju.

What would happen, if Orochimaru gets a pair of eyes, and instead of trying to take over Sasuke, he goes after Tsunade instead with the intention of taking over her Senju body, and then implanting the eyes into her? Nothing in the manga says that would not also allow a rinnegan transformation, and a descendant of the Younger Son would likely be able to master Senjutsu (No doubt Orochimaru would know that Hashirama did for example).

Trying to possess Naruto (Uzumaki) is also a potential option, though that might result in some wacky craziness such as Orochimaru getting trapped in the cage with Kyuubi or somesuch.

 

[Altered Nova]

The eyes on their own are not that useful to Orochimaru. He presumably could have gotten some Sharingan from Danzou if that's all he really wanted, so I'm confident that Orochimaru really wanted a strong Uchiha body in order to bring out the full power of the eyes (and to be able to master Senjutsu). Probably the Rinnegan can only be unlocked by an Uchiha, Madara is the only person besides the Sage who has actually done it after all.

Its possible it would work the other way around too though.

That is to say, extract eyes from an Uchiha, and implant into an Uzumaki/Senju.

That does seem somewhat plausible. After all Nagato, while not awakening the Rinnegan, was able to master all of it's powers. Maybe that's why Orochimaru kept Karin around? She's an Uzumaki and she has incredibly powerful chakra judging by how her chakra can heal people just by absorbing it, so she might be a backup plan for him. If he can't steal a good Uchiha body he'll steal her body and implant some sharingan into it.

I don't think that Tsunade can handle sage mode actually. Her grandfather mastered it, her teammate learned it, and she has summons that almost certainly can teach it (slugs, toads and snakes all come from legendary places and the toads and snakes can teach senjutsu). If she hasn't even tried to learn it with all of those advantages then she's an idiot, and since she doesn't know it she must have failed.

Possessing Naruto would be interesting, but Orochimaru must have had a reason for not considering him as a host. He completely dismissed Naruto in the Forest of Death and actually tried to kill him with a giant snake. He didn't seem to become interested in Naruto at all until well after the time-skip when they fought on that bridge. And now Kabuto has seemed to inherited all that interest with Naruto and Orochimaru is obsessed with Sasuke again.

 

[ragnarok1337]

Frankly, I hate a lot of the retcons going around. Especially the Rinnegan/Nagato one.

 

[datakim]

Frankly, I hate a lot of the retcons going around. Especially the Rinnegan/Nagato one.

How is that a retcon?

 

[MnemoD]

The rinnegan was originally Nagato's own until they pulled a retcon and had them somehow come from Madara.

 

[datakim]

The rinnegan was originally Nagato's own until they pulled a retcon and had them somehow come from Madara.

How do you know? Given the buildup we got from EMS+Senju=Rinnegan and the story of the two brothers and such, its quite possible that Kishi always intended for Nagatos rinnegan to be implants awakened by Madara.

The fact all other doujutsu could be turned on/off, even in the original series, but Nagatos rinnegan could not, further suggest that it might always have been the plan.

Whether you think its a GOOD idea for the eyes to have been Madaras is another matter, but there is no actual retcon here. No real proof to suggest that the eyes were ever meant to be truly Nagatos. Its no more a retcon than Tobi turning out to be Obito. Stupid maybe, retcon no.

 

[ankokudaishogun]

by the way, using the cursed seal on Sasuke was actually an experiment by Oro.
So, yeah, it seems Oro wasn't THAT interessed in Sasuke, until he passed the experiment by surviving...