Parental Consent

GaelicDragon

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#1
How much would the Nanoha series change if Nanoha's parents demanded that she graduate from high school or college? They aren't stopping her from doing magic, just from working for the TSAB until she has graduated from school at a level they agree to.
 

lhklan

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#2
GaelicDragon said:
How much would the Nanoha series change if Nanoha's parents demanded that she graduate from high school or college? They aren't stopping her from doing magic, just from working for the TSAB until she has graduated from school at a level they agree to.
Either way, I don't think she'll be able to participate in events in StrikerS like she did before.

If the restriction is high school, then she'll be Vita's underling since she have less field experience. Subaru won't have her hero worship since canonically, the airport fire takes place 4 years before Strikers, which make Nanoha - who's 19 in Strikers - 15 at the time and thus, still in junior high.

If it's college, there's a chance she won't even be there depending on which college and which department she went in. (From what I gather, many colleges require at least 3 years to finish the course, and since highschool graduation age in Japan is 17-18, she will be at least 19-20 when she graduates, and thus missing out on StrikerS event.)

Either way, this creates quite a snowball effect since it's very likely that Nanoha won't be there to adopt Vivio, leading to someone else doing the job.
 

Rising Dragon

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#3
That's debatable, actually. We already know that for some time Nanoha was attending high school while still working as a TSAB soldier, as per the A's epilogue. So there's still opportunity for Nanoha to appear at the airport fire, and all things considered Nanoha could decline going to college in lieu of a tour through the TSAB military followed by a return to attend college.
 

lhklan

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#4
Rising Dragon said:
That's debatable, actually. We already know that for some time Nanoha was attending high school while still working as a TSAB soldier, as per the A's epilogue. So there's still opportunity for Nanoha to appear at the airport fire, and all things considered Nanoha could decline going to college in lieu of a tour through the TSAB military followed by a return to attend college.
Eh, you said "They aren't stopping her from doing magic, just from working for the TSAB until she has graduated from school at a level they agree to.", so I thought it means no work with TSAB, even part time work, until she graduates. I extrapolate from that point.

Though the airport incident COULD theoretically happens, since the trio were on vacation in canon. Though I think that they would all return to Earth, since Nanoha still have school.
 

Andarion

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#5
Actually I might have it wrong but didn't TSAB kinda require Nanoha and Fate to get the compulsory education on Earth at least up to High School level? Until then they were more of volunteer cooperators than full-time employees like in StrikerS.
Also I might have my facts wrong but Nanoha went to a 5 years Private Junior High School which combined Jr. High School and High School... at least that's how I understood that.
 

Nanya

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#6
I thought Nanoha joined right after Jr. High?
 

Andarion

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#7
Nanya said:
I thought Nanoha joined right after Jr. High?
I guess so, from what I read her school life composed of three years of Elementary School and 5 Years of Junior High School.
 

Nanya

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#8
Jr. High is for ages 10-15 in Japan?
 

Andarion

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#9
Nanya said:
Jr. High is for ages 10-15 in Japan?
No, Elementary 6-12, Jr 12-15 and Highschool 15-18. Nanoha's School was Private and connected to some University so they apparently had a different set up.
 

Gx Hero

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#10
One thing I want to point out about Schooling is that High school is more like college, and since the curriculum for Japans schools is different probably made it easier for Nanoha to enter TSAB after middle school. If she was in America it would either be till after high school, or if she skipped grades.

However regardless of schools I bet it was a pain to convince Nanoha's parents to let her join a military, personally I don't care where 10 year olds should not be allowed to join the military if it was a traditional military it would ruin Nanoha's mind, her father Shiro would understand from being a body guard, seeing death and the situations would be too much, regardless if they been through so much they are still as vulnerable.

Sorry about that last part been wanting to post something like that for a while.
 

ragnarok1337

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#11
I think I heard junior high or high school was technically optional for the Japanese...don't quote me on that, though.
 

Andarion

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#12
Gx Hero said:
However regardless of schools I bet it was a pain to convince Nanoha's parents to let her join a military, personally I don't care where 10 year olds should not be allowed to join the military if it was a traditional military it would ruin Nanoha's mind, her father Shiro would understand from being a body guard, seeing death and the situations would be too much, regardless if they been through so much they are still as vulnerable.

Sorry about that last part been wanting to post something like that for a while.
Well for starters it was Momoko who gave Nanoha OK on helping out during Fate's incident so she might be even more accepting of such behaviour than Shirou. She went through quite a lot, Shirou landing in hospital, her two kids learning how to be bodyguards and swordspeople the same as their father. It pretty much runs in the family so Nanoha isn't exactly an exception.

Also from a certain point of view Nanoha is actually in a safer position than either of her siblings or her father. Sure magical combat looks pretty dangerous and scary but it's actually Far safer than the kind of combat Shirou engages in. Nanoha has her barrier jacket, most of her enemies will either use magic like her (meaning the chance of her being killed is low) or weapons which will be ineffective against her barrier jacket.

In real combat one mistake can mean your life, in magical combat barrier jacket and inherent non-lethalness of magic, gives you a pretty large big safety margin.
 

Rising Dragon

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#13
Not to mention being part of a team due to the military organization and such, whereas most of the time her father was likely on his own as a solitary bodyguard.

That said, I'm fairly certain the Book of Darkness incident would've broken any illusions of a career with the Bureau being inherently safer for Nanoha.
 

Andarion

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#14
Rising Dragon said:
Not to mention being part of a team due to the military organization and such, whereas most of the time her father was likely on his own as a solitary bodyguard.
True enough, Shirou was mostly alone on his jobs, Nanoha would have the backing of an entire interstellar Space Police and its resources.

That said, I'm fairly certain the Book of Darkness incident would've broken any illusions of a career with the Bureau being inherently safer for Nanoha.
Well no one ever said it would be Safe, just mostly safer than what her father and siblings dealt with... from a relative point of view as I doubt they ever dealt with a magical, planet eating eldritch abomination XD
 

ragnarok1337

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#15
Andarion said:
Rising Dragon said:
Not to mention being part of a team due to the military organization and such, whereas most of the time her father was likely on his own as a solitary bodyguard.
True enough, Shirou was mostly alone on his jobs, Nanoha would have the backing of an entire interstellar Space Police and its resources.

That said, I'm fairly certain the Book of Darkness incident would've broken any illusions of a career with the Bureau being inherently safer for Nanoha.
Well no one ever said it would be Safe, just mostly safer than what her father and siblings dealt with... from a relative point of view as I doubt they ever dealt with a magical, planet eating eldritch abomination XD
You never know. It might not have escalated to the level of the Book of Darkness, but they might've had to protect some seal to stop Cthulu or some other eldtrich horror from destroying Earth.
 

Andarion

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#16
ragnarok1337 said:
You never know. It might not have escalated to the level of the Book of Darkness, but they might've had to protect some seal to stop Cthulu or some other eldtrich horror from destroying Earth.
I would read the heck out of that!
 

Gx Hero

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#17
Yeah magic damage being non lethal is probaly a defining reason why 10 year olds can join. I have seen a lot of multi chapter stories that aren't Nano Fate romance that portrays magic being lethal. Probably just me.

If Nanoha's brother and Shinobu happens to have kids, with magic, wonder how he handle it if his kids asked to join Tsab.
 

lhklan

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#18
Gx Hero said:
Yeah magic damage being non lethal is probaly a defining reason why 10 year olds can join. I have seen a lot of multi chapter stories that aren't Nano Fate romance that portrays magic being lethal. Probably just me.

If Nanoha's brother and Shinobu happens to have kids, with magic, wonder how he handle it if his kids asked to join Tsab.
Kyouya and Shinobu's kid would be a half vampire. Depends on the type of vampire, he could be either a very frightening opponent or someone who depends on the time of the day. (Bad in daylight, monstrous in moonlight)
 

gral

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#19
ragnarok1337 said:
I think I heard junior high or high school was technically optional for the Japanese...don't quote me on that, though.
Mandatory studying in Japan is up to Junior High(14-15 years old). However, more than 90% of those who finished Junior High go on to Senior High.
 
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