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MastaofBitches

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#76
 

AJ_Katon

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#77
MastaofBitches said:
Pokemon: The Unexpected Pimp Journey.

In all seriousness, does it really seem like Serena will win the Ash bowl?
 

ragnarok1337

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#78
Let's face it: no romantic interests will go anywhere. But if Ash were actually allowed to grow up and develop a relationship, I think Serena would have the best shot, with Misty a close second.
 

Rising Dragon

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#79
The boy can't even grow height. Good luck growing enough for a romantic relationship.
 

Yorae Rasante

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#80
I read somewhere that the reason for so him not growing up noticeably is because while for us it took years for him it still has been two years tops.
 

ragnarok1337

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#81
Yorae Rasante said:
I read somewhere that the reason for so him not growing up noticeably is because while for us it took years for him it still has been two years tops.
Just a theory. The narrator in the Malls season opening calls ash a 10 year old boy.
 

Altered Nova

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#82
If you assume that Ash has the most exciting, adventure filled life in the world and he averages an episode per day with no significant amount of time passing off-screen... Then  the anime has covered about two and a half years.

And that is the best case, least amount of time possible scenario. More realistically at least twice that amount of time should have passed, otherwise you have to accept that Team Rocket was attacking this kid four or five times a week without turning him into a nervous paranoid wreck.
 

Shirotsume

Not The Goddamn @dmin
#83
Now THERE's a story!
 
#84
No amount of time has passed for him or ever will -- he was ten at the beginning of the series and he was stated to be ten at the start of the Unova (Isshu) anime ... he can't be shown as having aged in any significant way because they can't base the anime off anyone else. Why? Because Pikachu is the mascot -- he has to be in the show forever, and Satoshi [Tajiri] is Pokémon's creator to begin with. So no amount of time will pass, and the topic is senseless.
 

Contrabardus

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#85
nuclear death frog said:
No amount of time has passed for him or ever will -- he was ten at the beginning of the series and he was stated to be ten at the start of the Unova (Isshu) anime ... he can't be shown as having aged in any significant way because they can't base the anime off anyone else. Why? Because Pikachu is the mascot -- he has to be in the show forever, and Satoshi [Tajiri] is Pokémon's creator to begin with. So no amount of time will pass, and the topic is senseless.
I don't get why this is any sort of debate. Lots of animated and comic book characters are ageless. How many years has Bart Simpson been in the 4th grade for? The show has been on for more than twenty years and he's still a 4th grader and his littlest sister is still an infant. That's just one example out of many.

Ash is no different, he's going to be that age forever because the narrative needs him to be that age. The exact same reason Calvin never grew older in Calvin and Hobbes, or the kids in South Park stay perpetually about the same age, or the myriad of other child characters in various long running animated shows stay kids.

It doesn't hurt that the show is targeted at kids around that age. That's about when boys start playing Pokemon games. One of the reasons the girls in the show are a little older is because girls tend to get interested in the games and series at a slightly later age on average, or at least they did at first.

If it didn't work that way, the Scooby Gang would have stopped being 'meddling kids' in the seventies, Shaggy would probably be something like Trevor from GTA V, and Scooby would be Scooby the 4th or 5th by this point.
 

Altered Nova

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#86
Just because Ash doesn't grow older doesn't mean we can't theorize about how much time has passed in the anime. Time clearly still moves in a linear direction even if everyone is biologically frozen at the same physical age as when the series started.
 

Contrabardus

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#87
Altered Nova said:
Just because Ash doesn't grow older doesn't mean we can't theorize about how much time has passed in the anime. Time clearly still moves in a linear direction even if everyone is biologically frozen at the same physical age as when the series started.
You could say the same thing about the Simpsons. Time is kind of irrelevant and nebulous. Very rarely is an exact timeframe given, it's just something that happened 'a while ago', such as the situation with Sideshow Bob, Krusty, and Bart. It happened, but as far as the show is concerned it didn't happen fifteen years ago or even 'a few years ago'. Just an indeterminate amount of time that was neither too long ago or yesterday. This is a common narrative device for continuity in shows with ageless characters.

Trying to apply a timeline outside of a mere 'order that events occurred' never leads to anything that makes any sense. You really can't set a specific timetable to these things because it just ends up messing the continuity up to try.

I get that it's just goofing off and speculating for fun, but it's an exercise in futility to expect it to actually come out making sense. It never will. Ash is ten, and he's lived through at least three years worth of events in less than a year. All that stuff happened because continuity, but when exactly has to remain nebulous for any of it to make any sense. It was all a while ago, but also not that long ago, and it's best to leave it at that for the sake of your own sanity.
 
#88
The trick is that the nebulous floating time works better with an episodic comedy like The Simpsons. Less so with a story with an on-going, over-arching plot like Pokemon. I think the most entertaining ways I've seen it referenced are people pointing out things like "Kids today will never know how fat Pikachu was, or what assholes it and Charizard used to be." Or responding to a shipping argument where someone brought up Misty by saying that, aside from the one Togepi episode, she hasn't been around for 10 years, she's not coming back.

Oddly, though, one show did address the vague time issue: Fairly Oddparents. It came out in one of the later specials that Timmy had wished for time not to progress and for no one to question it, so he could stay a kid with fairies forever. By the time it came out, 50 years had passed.
 

da_fox2279

California Crackpot
#89
Oddly, though, one show did address the vague time issue: Fairly Oddparents. It came out in one of the later specials that Timmy had wished for time not to progress and for no one to question it, so he could stay a kid with fairies forever. By the time it came out, 50 years had passed.
Really? Shit, that show was darker than I ever imagined. I was never really a fan of the show, though I did catch the occasional episode... Goddamn, did anyone react when that little tidbit was revealed?
 

Contrabardus

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#90
He-who-voted-for-Kodos said:
The trick is that the nebulous floating time works better with an episodic comedy like The Simpsons. Less so with a story with an on-going, over-arching plot like Pokemon. I think the most entertaining ways I've seen it referenced are people pointing out things like "Kids today will never know how fat Pikachu was, or what assholes it and Charizard used to be." Or responding to a shipping argument where someone brought up Misty by saying that, aside from the one Togepi episode, she hasn't been around for 10 years, she's not coming back.

Oddly, though, one show did address the vague time issue: Fairly Oddparents. It came out in one of the later specials that Timmy had wished for time not to progress and for no one to question it, so he could stay a kid with fairies forever. By the time it came out, 50 years had passed.
What? Lol! No! Have you ever watched a cartoon series before?

It being something that only works in episodic comedy isn't even close to true. Most animated shows of any type have ageless characters over-arcing plot or not. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles have been teenagers over episodes that should have brought them into their twenties easily. Yes they've been rebooted, but the original run was more than enough episodes that they should have aged considerably. That's just one example.

Another example would be any Disney cartoon show ever, Ducktales, Darkwing Duck, Chip n' Dale,  Gummi Bears, Tailspin, Kim Possible, etc. Some of those shows were more action than comedy, all had over-arching plot, and all of them had an ageless cast that was always 'right now' with stuff that happened 'back then'.

Some of them do focus more on comedy than action, but it still holds true with more action oriented shows. Tailspin, Gummi Bears, and Kim Possible all had gags in them, but they were more action shows than comedy shows. 

Pokemon is actually more like something like Darkwing Duck, where the comedy focus is actually bigger than the action focus most of the time. Most of the character interactions rely on gags outside of the battles themselves, and the gags and jokes often creep into those segments as well.

It's almost universal that characters in action adventure animated shows are ageless, especially when aimed at a younger demographic. This holds true even in shows where there aren't any child characters. No one in GI Joe would ever have retired, Beavis and Butthead would always remain idiots in high school, Kim Possible would always be a teenage spy.

This rule is generally true of Anime as well. With very few exceptions, in long running shows the characters are usually ageless. Often the show's premise doesn't work if they are not. They don't get any older unless the plot needs them too.

Short term aging does happen sometimes, but it's unusual and usually a small increment. Characters might have a birthday or another time marking life event, such as the characters in South Park moving up a grade. It didn't really have a significant impact and that was why it was done. None of the boys will ever graduate or really get any older than their nebulous age range. That's how most animated shows work. Live action shows would do the same thing if they could get away with it, but that's more difficult with live actors. They tend to stretch things as much as they can even then.

The reality of the situation is that exceptions to the rule are the more unusual ones in regard to animation. It's just that most of these shows don't last long enough for it to become apparent, but it is usually obvious that if they ran for long enough the characters would remain in their perpetual status quo and never really get any older outside of maybe a small increment life event episode that has no real impact overall on their apparent age.
 

da_fox2279

California Crackpot
#92



 

Contrabardus

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#93



*Everyone but me is gonna die.

WTF does Wooper have to worry about? He's a Water/Ground type fish Pokemon. His expression is appropriately chill for the situation he's in.
 

Contrabardus

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#94
This is cheesy AF and cheaply made, but damnit it this made me smile anyway...
[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxbrwIm19Hw&feature=youtu.be[/video]
 

Hoki

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#96
Contrabardus said:



*Everyone but me is gonna die.

WTF does Wooper have to worry about? He's a Water/Ground type fish Pokemon. His expression is appropriately chill for the situation he's in.
He doesn't look too worried. That or he's enjoying the anguished screams of everyone around him.
 

da_fox2279

California Crackpot
#97
 

da_fox2279

California Crackpot
#99
 
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