Problems with Canon Pairings?

GenocideHeart

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#26
nuclear death frog said:
Canon pairs I have no gripe with (central characters only):
  • Keiichi + Belldandy
    Kenshin + Kaoru
    Kaoru + Aoi
    Kenshiro + Yuria
    Usagi + Mamoru
    Yuusuke + Keiko
    Akito + Yurika
    Terry Bogard + "Blue Mary" [Mary Ryan]
    Andy Bogard + Mai Shiranui
Canon pairs I tolerate:
  • Harry Potter + Ginny Weasley (no, I am *not* a Harry/Hermione supporter; that's simply WRONG)
    Naruto + Sakura (since I hear the manga seems like it's going that way; personally I prefer Naruto + Hinata)
Canon pairs I dislike outright:
  • Ranma + Akane (I've had a Ranma + Kasumi softspot for ages and I loathe Akane)
    Keitaro + Naru (Mutsumi forever!)
More later, maybe.
Terry and Mary is NOT a canon pairing, it's entirely fanon constructed over her one-sided crush on him. It's like considering Keitaro-Shinobu canon.

Mary likes him, but he is absolutely, totally not interested in her beyond a good friend. He said it himself, fighting is what he truly loves, and he's too much of a loner to consider any other way.

As for Andy, he's pathologically afraid of commitment, and in one of the manga, Terry flat out says he thinks Mai will never get him, because: one, he's almost as obsessed with his perceived inadequacy as Terry is with fighting, and two: he doesn't WANT to start a family, and Mai's insistence is scaring him.

Just so you know. Some think Hokutomaru is their kid - that's FALSE. He's a Shiranui clan ninja, and Andy's pupil, but not their kid.

The most official SNK pairing is Galford/Nakoruru, actually. Nakoruru is well aware of Galford's affection, and returns it, but her duty to Nature comes first.

Other official pairings appear to include Billy Lee and Marian in the Double Dragon neogeo game and Jimmy Lee and Rebecca, also in the DD game.

Then Pepe and Pupa in Rage of the Dragons... actually, wait, the entire RotD cast is paired up one way or the other.

Also, going out of SNK, there's the strange lovehate relationship between Zappa and S'ko in Guilty Gear, and the equally odd almost-yuri friendship between May and Dizzy. Also, Anji-Mito likes Baiken, but she told him not to bother, as her mission takes precedence, and he agreed to back off.

Just a few tidbits.
 
#27
GenocideHeart said:
Terry and Mary is NOT a canon pairing, it's entirely fanon constructed over her one-sided crush on him. It's like considering Keitaro-Shinobu canon.

Mary likes him, but he is absolutely, totally not interested in her beyond a good friend. He said it himself, fighting is what he truly loves, and he's too much of a loner to consider any other way.

As for Andy, he's pathologically afraid of commitment, and in one of the manga, Terry flat out says he thinks Mai will never get him, because: one, he's almost as obsessed with his perceived inadequacy as Terry is with fighting, and two: he doesn't WANT to start a family, and Mai's insistence is scaring him.

Just so you know. Some think Hokutomaru is their kid - that's FALSE. He's a Shiranui clan ninja, and Andy's pupil, but not their kid.
Huh. I'd read elsewhere that Terry/Mary was a confirmed pair (Wikipedia, I think) and I know that Andy is a little wary of Mai's insistence but I'd thought he was at least a little receptive.

Well, thanks for the clarification. Anyway, my point for listing them is if they *were* canon pairs, I wouldn't have any problem with them.
 

SimmyC

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#28
Well, as you know Wikipedia isn't the most accurate place to go to when it comes to information.

Now, to add to the list... this one is actually from a live action series.

Sydney/Vaughn (Alias)

Now before the series when soap opera on me, I liked this show, and thought of the potential pairings, this one worked. Of course, now he's dead... but is he really? <_< Ah screw it. I'm skipping them until the Finale since this is the last season.
 
#29
SimmyC said:
Well, as you know Wikipedia isn't the most accurate place to go to when it comes to information.
Too right.

Some of their information on Rurouni Kenshin, for example, is just flat-out wrong because it comes from the OAV's and not the manga.

I guess I should know better. Oh well.
 

Israfel

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#30
Well considering it is all just stuff submitted by random people you can't expect all of it to be factual.
 

SimmyC

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#31
Well, on one hand, that is accurate if you only narrow it down to the OVAs (or OAV whatever you like). Now, if they are claiming it to be a general fact that also includes the manga, then you're be right and it would be flat out wrong. Which, you can change it by the way.

This is one of the advantages of Wikipedia is that you the user, see something wrong, you can also change it right then and there. The problem of course is, well, for the same reason why it could be an advantage. Another person can also see something wrong and change it right then and there. Except their information may not be as accurate as yours and vice versa.

I remember going through the Yu-Gi-Oh entry and noticed that, according to the bio on Serenity (Shizuka) had a crush on Seto. While I admit that I am a supporter of the "Silent Shipper" and all since they have some 'cute' appeal to them with OOC Kaiba (Kaiba/Shizuka), this was flat out wrong, and was probably only there by some fangirl/boy who supported said coupling (and if you look at the anime and stuff, where they barely have any interaction with each other, this is for the most part a crack pairing).
 

GenocideHeart

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#32
This fic is a good example of how I think the R/A pairing is effectively doomed, unless Akane seeks therapy:

http://www.fanfic.net/pub/Anime/FanFiction...e-bitter-end.gz

Warning, it's very dark. Not 'everyone dies, life sucks, why bother? go on a killing spree' dark, but close enough to 'god, I feel like slitting my wrists' dark.

Feel free to post other fics depicting just why a canon pairing won't work.
 

Wonderbee31

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#34
GenocideHeart said:
This fic is a good example of how I think the R/A pairing is effectively doomed, unless Akane seeks therapy:

http://www.fanfic.net/pub/Anime/FanFiction...e-bitter-end.gz

Warning, it's very dark. Not 'everyone dies, life sucks, why bother? go on a killing spree' dark, but close enough to 'god, I feel like slitting my wrists' dark.

Feel free to post other fics depicting just why a canon pairing won't work.
Yeah, I remeber reading The Bitter End for the first time, and thinking, man, Akane'd never get so insanely stupid. Then I started to re-read the manga, and watch the series again, and got to thinking, 'Man, if Akane doesn't get some kind of therapy, her anger and jealousy is going to eat her alive.' The Bitter End didn't seem nearly as far-fetched then, and actually saw something possible like that happening, if she where pushed just the wrong way.

Makes me almost want to see a fic where she challenges her father for mastery of the Tendo school, gets it, and then, the next time she ends the engagement, that'd be it, as the master of the school, she'd be able to do that, LOL, even if she didn't mean to do it.
 

GenocideHeart

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#35
The scariest thing about The Bitter End is that it's frighteningly accurate. I can see pretty much all involved acting like that, including Ryoga. Remember, Ryoga generally sees the nicer side of Akane, he never really saw the ugly one. I could definitely believe him running away in shock if he saw the worst of it.

I can also fully believe Akane losing her temper and doing something she'll regret if she's not treated for her AMD. Ranma is tough, but unlike Keitaro, he's not fricking immortal. He gets hurt, he bleeds, his bones break and he can die...
 

Moshulel

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#37
Well i'm not one for that type of pairings .... honestly you would think that the authors have experienced that on they're own skin ( if they are males) or they're just wishing themselves in a dominatrix relationship ( for females ) . It seems there is a formula for this kind of stuff : A= violent girl with domination fantasy , B= honorable sucker/week male , C= succesfull pairing .

A+B=C ........ well i think not . ( One pairing that i actually enjoy is Ataru+Lum at least he is a god damn pervert )
 
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