Bleach Psycho-Orihime
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Change the gender of Rukia's sister.
Byakuya comes from a 'traditional' clan and would have probably been disowned (and/or killed) if she were a lesbian.
That would destroy the whole plot line, because Rukia would have never become a Kuchiki and probably would have become a Vice-Captain/Lieutenant and had a more dangerous mission than patrolling Karakura (sp?) Town. I think it's been stated somewhere in canon that Byakuya was the only reason Rukia doesn't go on more dangerous missions and isn't a Vice-Captain/Lieutenant.
Byakuya comes from a 'traditional' clan and would have probably been disowned (and/or killed) if she were a lesbian.
That would destroy the whole plot line, because Rukia would have never become a Kuchiki and probably would have become a Vice-Captain/Lieutenant and had a more dangerous mission than patrolling Karakura (sp?) Town. I think it's been stated somewhere in canon that Byakuya was the only reason Rukia doesn't go on more dangerous missions and isn't a Vice-Captain/Lieutenant.
I don't doubt that they would have a hard time even trying to kill Byakuya, but I wouldn't doubt that they'd disown him (or her) if he (or she) turned out to be homosexual.
This is, after all, a Traditional (Japanese) clan and they usually, while not hating it, didn't tolerate homosexuality. At least, from what I read about Traditional clans they didn't tolerate it.
Anyway, if they were an ?ber-Traditional clan they wouldn't like having a female Clan Head, and if they were desperate and there was no other choice they might have a female Clan Head, but it's more probable that they would have her marry a male and have him as Clan Head, even if just a figure head where the female Byakuya makes the decisions, because the male had no experience.
I'd find it especially amusing if they (the old guys with Byakuya when he adopted Rukia) made Hisana (male version) Clan Head and then killed him in order to get Byakuya as the official Clan Head without any loss in reputation (probably amongst themselves) only to get found and later killed (which is why we don't hear of them, because Byakuya found out after adopting Rukia and Senkei'd them to death, making them the first to see Senkei), something they didn't think would happen.
This is, after all, a Traditional (Japanese) clan and they usually, while not hating it, didn't tolerate homosexuality. At least, from what I read about Traditional clans they didn't tolerate it.
Anyway, if they were an ?ber-Traditional clan they wouldn't like having a female Clan Head, and if they were desperate and there was no other choice they might have a female Clan Head, but it's more probable that they would have her marry a male and have him as Clan Head, even if just a figure head where the female Byakuya makes the decisions, because the male had no experience.
I'd find it especially amusing if they (the old guys with Byakuya when he adopted Rukia) made Hisana (male version) Clan Head and then killed him in order to get Byakuya as the official Clan Head without any loss in reputation (probably amongst themselves) only to get found and later killed (which is why we don't hear of them, because Byakuya found out after adopting Rukia and Senkei'd them to death, making them the first to see Senkei), something they didn't think would happen.
I remember reading vaguely that there were male prostitutes in Japan, ie. the 'actors' that the europeans (or was it the people in Perry's black ships) had around them when they arrived were male prostitutes (the white people thought the female geisha were prositutes and didn't want them around). There was also the samurai and his student/apprentice relationships thing. But I could be wrong.
I do know that if you're looking at ancient china, there was a wife's lament about her gay husband and his male lover that "she has that hole too". I won't go into the greeks. B)
EDIT - So... pretty much homosexuality hang-ups are pretty much modern day things.
I do know that if you're looking at ancient china, there was a wife's lament about her gay husband and his male lover that "she has that hole too". I won't go into the greeks. B)
EDIT - So... pretty much homosexuality hang-ups are pretty much modern day things.
The stuff about the Greeks is wrong. They didn't like 'unmanly' men any more than modern western society does. It's just that they defined it differently. Men were supposed to be the penetrators, and women, the penetratees. A man who enjoyed being penetrated or a woman who enjoyed penetrating would have been treated much as a homosexual is today. Men and boys? Perfectly fine, since it was (presumably) the man doing the penetrating. I'm pretty sure that men were expected to marry, too; I know women were.
So no, homosexuality hang-ups are not simply a construct of the modern-day. It's just that their definitions of the 'correct' sexuality were different.
So no, homosexuality hang-ups are not simply a construct of the modern-day. It's just that their definitions of the 'correct' sexuality were different.
Orihime has the power to Reject whatever she feels like. The only thing she lacks in Canon is the will-power to do this. If you have her siphon off some of Ichigo's will-power she'd be what Aizen wants to be (namely -- God).
Don't like a T.V. show? Rejection. It wasn't there to begin with.
Don't like an event like Aizen's Betrayal? Objecti-- I mean Rejection. The event never happened, or Aizen never existed.
Don't like that Rukia stole Ichigo's heart? Rejection. She never came to Karakura Town, or, better yet, never existed, either.
Don't like that Ichigo hasn't noticed you? Reject every human in the world, so that she can be Eve, and he can be Adam and they can start the world over again. By doing the nasty. I mean making love. Yes.
She had the potential to be God-Modded since the beginning, we just didn't know it until Aizen and Ulquiorra stated that she "infringes upon the realm of God" when she uses her powers. She's like the Sharingan, except, y'know, she's not actually God-Modded.
She's missing one core component that almost everyone else in the Manga seems to have -- will-power. Sure, she has it, but she won't Reject the existence of another, no matter how evil they are.
P.S. This is Time and Dimension Travel. It's better than just Time Travel.
Don't like a T.V. show? Rejection. It wasn't there to begin with.
Don't like an event like Aizen's Betrayal? Objecti-- I mean Rejection. The event never happened, or Aizen never existed.
Don't like that Rukia stole Ichigo's heart? Rejection. She never came to Karakura Town, or, better yet, never existed, either.
Don't like that Ichigo hasn't noticed you? Reject every human in the world, so that she can be Eve, and he can be Adam and they can start the world over again. By doing the nasty. I mean making love. Yes.
She had the potential to be God-Modded since the beginning, we just didn't know it until Aizen and Ulquiorra stated that she "infringes upon the realm of God" when she uses her powers. She's like the Sharingan, except, y'know, she's not actually God-Modded.
She's missing one core component that almost everyone else in the Manga seems to have -- will-power. Sure, she has it, but she won't Reject the existence of another, no matter how evil they are.
P.S. This is Time and Dimension Travel. It's better than just Time Travel.
Her healing powers denied the the existence of the wound, thus forcing the wound to go to a state where it didn't exist. Extrapolating, she could heal limb loss, death, or the fact that the chemicals that caused the growth of various tissues stopped producing those growth chemicals.
"I don't have the largest breasts in canon? I reject!"
"I don't have the largest breasts in canon? I reject!"
It has.
Precisely. After all. . . she's not going to let someone like Matsumoto, Kukaku, or Halibel beat her in the looks department, now is she? They might steal Ichi-kun away from her if that happened.
. . . and yes, I'm actually responding. Sorry about that, I've been busy doing things IRL.
BTW. . who do you think should get gender-swapped? Keeping in mind that they won't be a part of the inevitable harem Orihime assembles, I can't quite decide. It could be to help someone, or somehow be a part of her plan.
She could also do it for teh lulz. That is to say, just because she felt like it.
Precisely. After all. . . she's not going to let someone like Matsumoto, Kukaku, or Halibel beat her in the looks department, now is she? They might steal Ichi-kun away from her if that happened.
. . . and yes, I'm actually responding. Sorry about that, I've been busy doing things IRL.
BTW. . who do you think should get gender-swapped? Keeping in mind that they won't be a part of the inevitable harem Orihime assembles, I can't quite decide. It could be to help someone, or somehow be a part of her plan.
She could also do it for teh lulz. That is to say, just because she felt like it.
Ooooh! Boss! Boss! (waves hand) Over here!
I say Gin! Just because of the sheer crack factor. Everyone wants to genderbend Kenpachi. How about some new blood? Hell, genbend Unohana. Now Isane can lust after her taichou without scandal. (At least, no more then the usual for the taicho/fukutaicho romance...)
I say Gin! Just because of the sheer crack factor. Everyone wants to genderbend Kenpachi. How about some new blood? Hell, genbend Unohana. Now Isane can lust after her taichou without scandal. (At least, no more then the usual for the taicho/fukutaicho romance...)
Gin has been genderbent before. Forget where.
Unohana? Depending on what she thought of that, the collateral damage may or may not be legendary. Though I think, for some reason, that Unohana might take it in stride. Though she might request that Orihime switch her back later...
...And then it's Isane's turn. :snigger:
Unohana? Depending on what she thought of that, the collateral damage may or may not be legendary. Though I think, for some reason, that Unohana might take it in stride. Though she might request that Orihime switch her back later...
...And then it's Isane's turn. :snigger:
*whistles* This is awesome.
As for the genderbending? One of the less sane characters would be nice. Kenpachi, Gin, Mayuri (or, hell, why not Aizen?) would be perfect.
(I have to add that I can envision a female Kenpachi without much difficulty, being her normal psycho self and killing things. Everyone else would be whispering uneasily, wondering if Kenpachi noticed 'her' new gender...and of course, she has. And just doesn't care.
Gin is also not too hard. Just slightly scarier than before.)
As for the genderbending? One of the less sane characters would be nice. Kenpachi, Gin, Mayuri (or, hell, why not Aizen?) would be perfect.
(I have to add that I can envision a female Kenpachi without much difficulty, being her normal psycho self and killing things. Everyone else would be whispering uneasily, wondering if Kenpachi noticed 'her' new gender...and of course, she has. And just doesn't care.
Gin is also not too hard. Just slightly scarier than before.)
I do try to use some tact, even when speaking perversely. Sometimes though, I overdo it, I'll admit.
Bonus points if someone dumps a bucket of water over her head at some point. Unohana's I mean, if Orihime genbends her. Super Special Awesome points if she's just back to female and only wearing something white :snigger:
Bonus points if someone dumps a bucket of water over her head at some point. Unohana's I mean, if Orihime genbends her. Super Special Awesome points if she's just back to female and only wearing something white :snigger:
Actually, here, it says "He was so torn up...trying to heal him was like trying to find a splinter. I don't even know where to begin..." that could imply that since she didn't know where to begin, despite wanting to, she couldn't heal him. I take that as meaning (you can take it however you want, this is just my belief) that she can't create something from nothing, or something from only a couple of pieces, she needs more material to work with, at least for now.
What I mean is, her power, like Sado's, wasn't fully developed at that point in time, and I still doubt it's fully developed right now in Canon. If the 'Psycho-Orihime' had her powers fully developed, I'm pretty sure that, if she had the resolve and will-power, since that's what it seems to me what Reiatsu is powered by, like Ichigo, Ishida, and Sado, then she could easily do what ever she wants. Orihime isn't the type of person that wants to hurt, much less kill, anyone, so it could be that she saw, even if only subconsciously, that healing Tsubaki would only bring back her ability to kill someone, and that isn't something she wants.
Hachi also says that it was no wonder she couldn't heal it right here. He also says right there that as long as he can see her Reiatsu their powers should be "very similar" (which isn't to mean "the same," which is what many people seem to take it as) and that, even without the destroyed shard that he should be able to regenerate it to its former shape, he never implied that Orihime could have done the same -- something similar, sure, but not the same.
In fact, it says she isn't fully developed right here. Hachi's got way (at least 75 years more, I assume, since he said he came up with the powers after becoming a Vaizard) more experience with his powers than Orihime does.
"Can't completely destroy or omit...?" The big problem with that statement is that she's never been shown to be able to destroy anything. The manga has only implied that she can't completely bring back something. If it's destroyed into little tiny pieces then it's been shown that she doesn't have the experience to be able to bring something back from that to it's original state.
What I mean is, her power, like Sado's, wasn't fully developed at that point in time, and I still doubt it's fully developed right now in Canon. If the 'Psycho-Orihime' had her powers fully developed, I'm pretty sure that, if she had the resolve and will-power, since that's what it seems to me what Reiatsu is powered by, like Ichigo, Ishida, and Sado, then she could easily do what ever she wants. Orihime isn't the type of person that wants to hurt, much less kill, anyone, so it could be that she saw, even if only subconsciously, that healing Tsubaki would only bring back her ability to kill someone, and that isn't something she wants.
Hachi also says that it was no wonder she couldn't heal it right here. He also says right there that as long as he can see her Reiatsu their powers should be "very similar" (which isn't to mean "the same," which is what many people seem to take it as) and that, even without the destroyed shard that he should be able to regenerate it to its former shape, he never implied that Orihime could have done the same -- something similar, sure, but not the same.
In fact, it says she isn't fully developed right here. Hachi's got way (at least 75 years more, I assume, since he said he came up with the powers after becoming a Vaizard) more experience with his powers than Orihime does.
"Can't completely destroy or omit...?" The big problem with that statement is that she's never been shown to be able to destroy anything. The manga has only implied that she can't completely bring back something. If it's destroyed into little tiny pieces then it's been shown that she doesn't have the experience to be able to bring something back from that to it's original state.