Sailor Moon Question about canon Sailor Moon

[Reader458]

I have a question I need an answer to for my fic. And I though, why not a thread where such questions can be asked? So here it is, inspired by the thread in the Harry Potter section.

Now, on to my question.

What age was Hotaru when she took out Pharao 90 and was 'reborn' as a baby?
What age was Usagi?

Oops, that was two questions. I hope someone can answer.

 

[nuclear death frog]

I think Hotaru was about twelve in those events, and in the manga she was a cyborg of some kind.

Pretty sure Usagi would have been 14 or so. I think that arc was the Inners' last year of junior high.

 

[Tornado Ninja Fan]

Did they ever show a spaceship of the Moon Kingdom?
Or spaceships of others like the Starlights?

 

[Reader458]

Okay, have to change a bit in one of my scenes then. Thanks ndf

Anyone got a good screenshot of Hotaru and Saturn in the anime shortly before Pharao 90? And a pic from the manga at the same?

 

[Deleted member 5249]

Did they ever show a spaceship of the Moon Kingdom?
Or spaceships of others like the Starlights?

Senshi teleported everywhere. The anima-mates even disguised themselves as shooting stars to hide their entry into the solar system.

 

[PCHeintz72]

Did they ever show a spaceship of the Moon Kingdom?
Or spaceships of others like the Starlights?

Senshi teleported everywhere. The anima-mates even disguised themselves as shooting stars to hide their entry into the solar system.

Hmmm... only two objects come to mind in anime canon continuity I would consider possibly classing as a spacecraft, and one a floating travel device that could be a spacecraft but was not shown to be one.

 

[kitsuneb]

Did they ever show a spaceship of the Moon Kingdom?
Or spaceships of others like the Starlights?

Senshi teleported everywhere. The anima-mates even disguised themselves as shooting stars to hide their entry into the solar system.

Hmmm... only two objects come to mind in anime canon continuity I would consider possibly classing as a spacecraft, and one a floating travel device that could be a spacecraft but was not shown to be one.

Although a lot of fans, especially Ozzy, do believe they had battle cruisers during the Fall of the Silver Millenium

 

[PCHeintz72]

Did they ever show a spaceship of the Moon Kingdom?
Or spaceships of others like the Starlights?

Senshi teleported everywhere. The anima-mates even disguised themselves as shooting stars to hide their entry into the solar system.

Hmmm... only two objects come to mind in anime canon continuity I would consider possibly classing as a spacecraft, and one a floating travel device that could be a spacecraft but was not shown to be one.

Although a lot of fans, especially Ozzy, do believe they had battle cruisers during the Fall of the Silver Millenium

There is nothing to prove they did not have them, and in fact it makes plenty of sense that they did. There just is no direct evidence shown they did.

Even if the senshi themselves teleported everywhere, what of the average citizens?

 

[Deleted member 5249]

Did they ever show a spaceship of the Moon Kingdom?
Or spaceships of others like the Starlights?

Senshi teleported everywhere. The anima-mates even disguised themselves as shooting stars to hide their entry into the solar system.

Hmmm... only two objects come to mind in anime canon continuity I would consider possibly classing as a spacecraft, and one a floating travel device that could be a spacecraft but was not shown to be one.

Although a lot of fans, especially Ozzy, do believe they had battle cruisers during the Fall of the Silver Millenium

There is nothing to prove they did not have them, and in fact it makes plenty of sense that they did. There just is no direct evidence shown they did.

Even if the senshi themselves teleported everywhere, what of the average citizens?

That's all speculation. This is a thread about canon and in both flashbacks of the fall of the silver millenium, manga and anime, spaceships weren't shown.

The Planets in the manga version seemed pretty isolated from each other and earth was pretty much forbidden territory to everybody. Other than the Princesses around each other there was never a canon example of the planets mingling with each other.

 

[PCHeintz72]

Did they ever show a spaceship of the Moon Kingdom?
Or spaceships of others like the Starlights?

Senshi teleported everywhere. The anima-mates even disguised themselves as shooting stars to hide their entry into the solar system.

Hmmm... only two objects come to mind in anime canon continuity I would consider possibly classing as a spacecraft, and one a floating travel device that could be a spacecraft but was not shown to be one.

Although a lot of fans, especially Ozzy, do believe they had battle cruisers during the Fall of the Silver Millenium

There is nothing to prove they did not have them, and in fact it makes plenty of sense that they did. There just is no direct evidence shown they did.

Even if the senshi themselves teleported everywhere, what of the average citizens?

That's all speculation. This is a thread about canon and in both flashbacks of the fall of the silver millenium, manga and anime, spaceships weren't shown.

The Planets in the manga version seemed pretty isolated from each other and earth was pretty much forbidden territory to everybody. Other than the Princesses around each other there was never a canon example of the planets mingling with each other.

Yep. If you took my last post in context with the one before it, you would note I agree.

I'm merely stating I can understand and even agree with the reasoning for the fanon.

 

[Garahs]

This is from the anime, but I distinctly remember watching the forces of Earth being shown running from the Earth to the moon.

Personally, I'm more inclined that they used teleportation circles or similiar magic to travel between planets if required.

 

[Tornado Ninja Fan]

Was there ever any reason given why Sailor Mercury was the only one with a computer?
If not, does that mean the other senshi could have theoretically had each one, too?

 

[Deleted member 5249]

Was there ever any reason given why Sailor Mercury was the only one with a computer?
If not, does that mean the other senshi could have theoretically had each one, too?

I always thought it was just the item that made her different, like Mercury had her computer, Venus had her chain wrapped around her fuku, Jupiter had her rose belt and at the moment I forget what Mars had.

 

[David Alan Abramczyk]

Them o-fuda things of hers?

 

[Deleted member 5249]

Them o-fuda things of hers?

I'm not really sure that could classify since she had her spiritual powers long before she became a senshi.

I meant in terms of what made her fuku different. The Outer Senshi had their obvious talismans, glaive and Setsuna also had her Space-time keys around her waist. Wikimoon only mentions she had a red gem on her belt. <_<

 

[Deleted member 5249]

Looking at the old translations again because of what was said in the R1/2 timeloops and this thread. I think Moon Kingdom is the only planet with life besides Earth in the Solar System and that the senshi are all born Lunarians.

Chapter 10

We were life forms born on the moon with longevity.
-Our mission was to protect the holy stone handed down on the moon, the Phantom Silver Crystal,
-and to monitor Earth to remove negative factors and help it evolve in a positive direction.
-Even now, it's burned into my memory.
-That year our father sun plunged into a period of abnormal activity.
-We had never seen the sun like that before.
-It gave off bizarre radiance.
Queen Serenity:-That abnormal sun brought about disaster.
-A grotesque being who invaded Earth and tried to take the beautiful planet for its own.
-That creature was quite simply evil itself, the enemy of all people, no, of everything.
-And its intention was to rule not only the beautiful jewel that was the Earth,
-but also the moon's holy stone, containing power unlimited and mysterious, the Phantom Silver Crystal.
-It manipulated people using the darkness in the depths of their hearts.
-It came to attack the moon.
-At that time, only the young, strong Prince Endymion was not deceived, and he fought hard to protect the people. But...
Queen Serenity:
-It was too late.
-He fell protecting you,
-and in your sorrow, you took your own life...
-Do you remember that...?
-At long last I sealed it away, but this Moon Castle had turned entirely to stone and crumbled.
-The Earth Kingdom was also destroyed, and Earth went through its evolution once more from the beginning.
-That is the story of ancient times...
-But the demon has been resurrected

Chapter 29

"Our princess," Setsuna says. "We will do whatever is necessary to make reparations for our rudeness. Forgive us, so we can protect this planet. Since ancient times, we fought as soldiers from deep space against invaders. We defended the Silver Millennium from a distance. The princess and the Silver Millennium have been resurrected again in this world. And we, too. Like you, it was promised we would be reincarnated. We have newly awakened on this planet. But it seems we are too late. Our full awakening came in the time of crisis. They are already invading. Deeply, quietly, they built their fortress. We've let these invading enemies slip through. It's our mistake

They only refer to the destruction of the Moon Kingdom and Queen Serenity refers to the senshi as people of the moon.

Chapter 41

"Super sailor guardians!? The sailor princesses of the solar system!?"

"The time has come for the new change of the soldiers," says Saturn.

"Borrow power from the castles of your mother planets," says Uranus.

Chapter 45

This brings back memories," Setsuna says. "The day has come that I've come again to Charon Castle. Slipping from this solar system, the ruler of the Silver Millennium, Queen Selenity, gave us at the time of our birth these castles."
A miniature version of herself appears in a ball of light.

"I have been waiting, Princess Pluto."

"Guardian Pluto," says Setsuna.

"A call from Princess Uranus has arrived."

They go to a large viewscreen.

"Pluto, we'll prepare the shield soon," says Haruka.

"Wait," says Setsuna. "I want to investigate the meteor data."

"Meteors?"

"For several months, meteors have been raining hard on Earth. That abnormal Sagittarius Alpha meteor shower." She begins typing into the computer. "All the meteors have exceeded escape speed from the solar system. The power of these stars, it's power not of this solar system. It can't be... Stars from space far beyond our solar system? Then... They're invading Earth posing as meteor showers...!"

The Castles and Princess Titles were given to them by Queen Serenity. It wasn't something they inherited. So apparently there weren't princesses before them. Despite the fact the Moon Kingdom itself is apparently really old.

Chapter 47

"In the galaxy..." says Taiki, "there are many star systems like this one. But this solar system is a special place. There are no other star systems which have completed their growth with such balance. Many planets have died midway through their growth."

"Growth?" says Usagi.

"Planets all grow from starseeds," says Yaten. "Not just planets. Different sizes, different shapes, different names, but... All things with life grow from starseeds. This planet and its people have starseeds. Same with our planet. And of course, we, the sailor soldiers, grow from starseeds. Sailor crystals are created as special starseeds, and spread out to the chosen planets. They grow together with those planets, finally becoming guardian soldiers and defending the planets. The first who attacked you, Iron Mouse, her planet Chuu was defended by Sailor Chuu. Aluminum Siren's planet Mermaid, by Sailor Mermaid. The planet Coronis by Sailor Coronis. The planet Mau by Sailor Mau."

Planets appear to take a long time to be able to have a senshi. The senshi themselves excluding Moon didn't even have Sailor Crystals until the fourth arc. Usagi receiving the Ginzuishou was enough for the Moon Kingdom to revive. The Ginzuishou itself is apparently one of the first sailor crystals in the galaxy. Sailor Senshi themselves also don't have to be born from the planet as Sailor Phobos and Deimos prooved since they were from Coronis.

 

[David Alan Abramczyk]

I myself have a question:

What sort of power level would the Inner Senshi have, Post-Series?

I mean, what would you think would be the level of power a threat would have to call out:

• One Senshi?
• The Inners?
• The Outers?
• Sailor Moon?
• The Whole Group?

 

[Deleted member 5249]

I myself have a question:

What sort of power level would the Inner Senshi have, Post-Series?

I mean, what would you think would be the level of power a threat would have to call out:

• One Senshi?
  
  
  
• The Inners?
  
  
  
• The Outers?
  
  
  
• Sailor Moon?
  
  
  
• The Whole Group?
  
  
  

Actually Post! Series the senshi's power levels excluding Moon are seriously vague.

Eternal Sailor Moon is stated to be the strongest Soldier in the Galaxy. That's why Galaxia waited so long to attack her. In Second I'd have to say is Eternal Sailor Chibi-Moon who can use her Pink Moon Crystal almost as well as Usagi can use the Silver Moon Crystal by the end.

All the other senshi excluding Chibimoon, who had the Amazoness with her were seriously pathetic against Alien Senshi despite the fact the Sailor Quartet didn't have the Super upgrades like they did.

One Sailor Anima-Mate killed Venus and Mars, another Mercury and Jupiter with a lot of ease with Neptune and Uranus attacking them. The Sailor Starlights in the manga appeared much stronger than 6/8ths of the planetary senshi. One attack from a Starlight easily killed a Anima-Mate while two from a Solar Senshi didn't phase them. Pluto's power wasn'tt seen since she was personally killed by Galaxia while trying to shield the Solar System before they could fight along with Uranus and Neptune. Though Pluto always seemed to be as strong as those two. Saturn was killed by Galaxia before she could even transform.

Super Sailor Chibi-Moon and the Sailor Quartet killed the Anima-Mate leader who was giving Kakyuu and Moon some trouble pretty easily.

By the end of the series all the senshi reach Eternal Mode. Though in power I'd honestly think excluding Moon, Saturn and Chibi-Moon. The rest of the senshi are probably now at the level of a Alien Senshi who is used to their Sailor Crystal.

Usagi who in the first arc revived a city, then revived a planet in the third arc with Super Mode, revived an entire galaxy by the end of the series with the Eternal Mode. For all we know with the other senshi, The Eternal mode might allow Saturn to be able to several planets now instead of just one. Pluto might be able to manipulate time without any consequences and Ami might be able to reach Absolute Zero.

Physical strength: In the very first arc, Usagi without the Ginzuishou had enough leg strength when she transformed that she could actually JUMP into Space. It's probably multiplied since she recieved the Ginzuishou and the Four Upgrades she's had since then. The other senshi were shown entering space with her seconds later so it probably applies to all of them.

Inners and Outers excluding saturn and Chibi-Moon appear to be pretty much at the same level by the end of the series. There doesn't seem to be as much of a gap anymore by the fourth arc. I'd once again put them at around the average level of a Alien Senshi since Usagi herself still had trouble with them.

All the Senshi together=Whatever Usagi wants to do

 

[AbyssalDaemon]

For Sailor Moon or the whole group to get called out the threat would have to be at a galactic level and possibly even universal.

Usagi post series is pretty much striding the line of being a Cosmic Entity (if she isn't already one) and has reached the power to affect things on a galatic scale. Really Usagi can be considered the Guiren-Lagann of magical girls given how freaken quickly she develops power-wise. She goes from having a hard time taking down a single Youma at the start of the series too taking down a Cosmic horror by it's end.

 

[David Alan Abramczyk]

Interesting.

I thought I'd ask, since I was thinking of writing a Post-Series solo adventure for Minako, and I wanted a grasp on the sorts of power levels the girls had.

 

[AbyssalDaemon]

Usagi who in the first arc revived a city, then revived a planet in the third arc, revived an entire galaxy by the end of the series with the Eternal Mode.

On something of a off note SeiyaxUsagi how many times has Usagi revived the Earth? She did so during the first arc at the end with Mamuro serving as an amplifier and she apparently did so in the third arc as well.

 

[Deleted member 5249]

For Sailor Moon or the whole group to get called out the threat would have to be at a galactic level and possibly even universal.

Usagi post series is pretty much striding the line of being a Cosmic Entity (if she isn't already one) and has reached the power to affect things on a galatic scale. Really Usagi can be considered the Guiren-Lagann of magical girls given how freaken quickly she develops power-wise. She goes from having a hard time taking down a single Youma at the start of the series too taking down a Cosmic horror by it's end.

Yeah, Usagi was actually the only thing needed for Chaos to conquer the universe and overthrow Cosmos Guardian. All the other senshi seriously didn't seem to matter.

Editid she do it in the first arc? If so I've completely forgotten it. She didn't do it during Black Moon or Dreams

Edit2: From what I see Luna says that those who lost their energy was just turned to stone. They didn't die. Not to mention the Inner Senshi held Metaria back for a while. Usagi just seems to have turned them back, not a full out revival.

 

[Tornado Ninja Fan]

So, those desperate pleas to the monsters to change their hearts were just distractions while she powered up her attacks? Good strategy.

And, damn, was I mislead about her power level by fukufics.

 

[Deleted member 5249]

So, those desperate pleas to the monsters to change their hearts were just distractions while she powered up her attacks? Good strategy.

And, damn, was I mislead about her power level by fukufics.

Manga!Usagi is a lot more protective of her friends then anime!Usagi. She only stretches out her hands for people she truly believes are good and are just being misled. She's may not like to kill but she's way more willing to than Anime!Usagi.

Though I must admit you do have a lot more room to write with in the Animeverse.

 

[AbyssalDaemon]

Editid she do it in the first arc? If so I've completely forgotten it. She didn't do it during Black Moon or Dreams

Edit2: From what I see Luna says that those who lost their energy was just turned to stone. They didn't die. Not to mention the Inner Senshi held Metaria back for a while. Usagi just seems to have turned them back, not a full out revival.

It was after Usagi defeated Metallia. She and Mamuro end up on the moon and shortly thereafter shown reviving both the dead senshi and the rest of the world's population.