Harry Potter Questions of canon events...

da_fox2279

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Well, Rowling's decided to reveal the names of other magical schools outside of Europe.

North American students attend Ilvermorny. Brazillian students attend Castelobruxo (and they're good at Herbology and Magizoology). Japanese students attend Mahoutokoro (and get robes that change colors as the wearer's knowledge improves). African studends attend Uagadou in the Mountains of the Moon in Uganda.

https://www.pottermore.com/news/ilvermorny-is-the-american-wizarding-school
 

seitora

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Rowling really needs to stop feeding this shit piecemeal and just release a whole bunch of stuff all at once.
 

seitora

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Inspired by the Super Bowl ads today and the ludicrous amount of money forked over for an ad...how the hell do you think pro Quidditch economics work? You obviously can't stream live, and the method of replaying a game would be too expensive for your average wizard layman. Or do they even have professional Quidditch where they make a living from the game? Maybe they just have numerous amateur leagues and every nation forms a national team from the best amateur players every time the Quidditch World Cup is held.

For that matter, do they build a brand new stadium from scratch for each Quidditch World Cup and then abandon it? New stadiums seat like 50k+ people, I can't even see Wizarding Britain having 50,000 people period so is it like a one-and-done deal? Or are they perhaps booking a pre-existing football stadium and renovating it for a one-time use for a Quidditch game, using magic so no Muggle people think something is strange that the local stadium has a bunch of people in weird clothes attending a function that was never locally announced?

I suppose more plausible is that a lot of the purebloods have old money invested in Muggle stuff which makes them more income than they can possibly hope to spend, so they throw it around at relatively frivolous stuff like keeping a professional Quidditch league running.
 
seitora said:
Inspired by the Super Bowl ads today and the ludicrous amount of money forked over for an ad...how the hell do you think pro Quidditch economics work? You obviously can't stream live, and the method of replaying a game would be too expensive for your average wizard layman. Or do they even have professional Quidditch where they make a living from the game? Maybe they just have numerous amateur leagues and every nation forms a national team from the best amateur players every time the Quidditch World Cup is held.

For that matter, do they build a brand new stadium from scratch for each Quidditch World Cup and then abandon it? New stadiums seat like 50k+ people, I can't even see Wizarding Britain having 50,000 people period so is it like a one-and-done deal? Or are they perhaps booking a pre-existing football stadium and renovating it for a one-time use for a Quidditch game, using magic so no Muggle people think something is strange that the local stadium has a bunch of people in weird clothes attending a function that was never locally announced?

I suppose more plausible is that a lot of the purebloods have old money invested in Muggle stuff which makes them more income than they can possibly hope to spend, so they throw it around at relatively frivolous stuff like keeping a professional Quidditch league running.
Wizards had their version of Skype calls canocically at least decades before Internet existed, see communication mirrors used between James & Sirius during their Hogwarts years in late 60's/early 70's. Omnioculars Harry & Ron used during Quidditch World Cup in GoF could also be used for recording and didn't seem too outrageously priced unlike say, Pensieve. So it's less of a mechanical issue than JK being deliberately loose with HP setting, especially when it comes to economics.

Personally I can't see why you couldnt simply use enlargeing charm on mirrors if you wanted to stream unless there are magical protections in place to prevent something like that. As possibilities of magic are close to limitless, it's tad annoying to see people immediately going for Muggle solutions when magical ones are far more flexible & superior. Being creative is so boring when one can insert muggle technology and use it for strawmanning Wizarding world in bashing crusade :^)
 

Dumbledork

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In most stories Daphne is called "the ice queen of Slytherin". Is that ever mentioned in the books or is that fanon?
 
Dumbledork said:
In most stories Daphne is called "the ice queen of Slytherin". Is that ever mentioned in the books or is that fanon?
No, Daphne is hardly mentioned except in OoP briefly as walking to an exam in a small group that included Hermione. You can give her any characterisation you want, bearing in mind she was in Slytherin. But remember, Harry was nearly sorted into Slytherin so it's not black and white - good or evil, she might still be noble and courageous and smart and hardworking and loyal, or anything you want, but her most dominant qualities must presumably have been ambition, resourcefulness, and cunning.
 

Dumbledork

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Yeah. I checked on the internet and apparently the books didn't even give any hints on her appearance or character. And she had no impact whatsoever on the story.
 

Schema

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At one point Daphe was called "Queenie" in notes and then renamed to Daphe. Watchers of fantastic beasts and where to find them will note the name "Queenie" resurfaced for Queenie Goldstein.

It is possible Queenie was based on who Daphne would have been had she made an appearance.
 

Dumbledork

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Why has Dumbledore never revealed Voldemort's past and real name in the newspapers? Wouldn't he have lost most of his powerbase if his followers had known he was a halfblood?
 

chronodekar

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Dumbledork said:
Why has Dumbledore never revealed Voldemort's past and real name in the newspapers? Wouldn't he have lost most of his powerbase if his followers had known he was a halfblood?
Blinks ...

That's a good question, actually.

-chronodekar
 

Shirotsume

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Do remember that Voldemort has directly lead to the complete destruction of more pureblood families in his time than muggleborns could have ever done short of the witch hunts.

Dumbledore's fear is that the rhetoric would get turned on him- with a half blood "corrupting the pureblood cause into evil and destruction."

The purebloods would lose their rallying point and leader, but they would also gain legitimacy, sympathy, and a renewed public support.
 

chronodekar

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Is that actually mentioned in canon? Sounds like an explanation I would see in a fanfic.

-chronodekar
 

Drawde

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Some possibilities.

One: Snape, another half-blood, was a Death Eater. So exceptional half-bloods are acceptable. And all those rituals got rid of his muggle parts.

Two: Look at these lies Dumbledore is making up to discredit me.

Three: The Death Eaters don't care, since he's giving them what they want. And any that do complain die soon afterwards.
 

Shirotsume

Not The Goddamn @dmin
chronodekar said:
Is that actually mentioned in canon? Sounds like an explanation I would see in a fanfic.

-chronodekar
No, like many important plot points, it's just completely ignored. Dumbledore never mentions it at any point, and nobody ever even contemplates it.

Given how conservative Dumbledore is with information though, I could see him using some kind of variation of what I said as justification to never reveal that information.
 

seitora

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Is Barty Crouch Jr. low-key the most competent antagonist in the entire series? Guy recovers from nearly a decade and a half of Azkaban and being held under an Imperius in a matter of months, gets the jump on an infamously paranoid but also talented spellcaster in Mad-Eye Moody, does a deep undercover infiltration into Hogwarts under Dumbledore's eyes while pretending to be Moody, also simultaneously keeps up an Imperius on his old man Barty Crouch Sr. for most of the year, and manipulates events to deliver Harry into Voldemort's crutches. Besides being a good duelist if he was able to defeat Moody, he's got to at least also be very good at Transfiguration and Potions, being able to turn Malfoy into a ferret and brew the Polyjuice potion throughout an entire year.

JFC, no wonder he had to get Kissed. If he was put away and Voldemort broke him out again, you may as well wrap up the Wizarding World and give it to Voldemort. This may unintentionally be the one smart thing Fudge did :p
 

endev8003

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Guy recovers from nearly a decade and a half of Azkaban and being held under an Imperius in a matter of months
He was only a year in Azkaban. Sirius mentioned that "Barty" died about a year after he was brought in. It does mean about 12 years under the Imperius, but I'm not sure how much an affect that would have.

gets the jump on an infamously paranoid but also talented spellcaster in Mad-Eye Moody
That was both Barty and Pettigrew. And I think most people would be surprised when suddenly attacked by 2 people that are reported dead. And they barely subdued him in time.

does a deep undercover infiltration into Hogwarts under Dumbledore's eyes while pretending to be Moody
True, but I think that is more a reflection of incompetence from Hogwarts and the Ministry. An underage student is forced in a tournament where it's outright stated to be a murder attempt and the only investigator is an ex cop that probably spends most of they day teaching classes and marking essays.

also simultaneously keeps up an Imperius on his old man Barty Crouch Sr. for most of the year
Voldemort was the one that kept Snr under the Imperius. After he started to resist Pettigrew was ordered to keep an eye on him but failed at that.

and manipulates events to deliver Harry into Voldemort's crutches
That is true
 
I would also add to that, Moody''s character would have been an asset to Barty in how to conduct the impersonation: he had a ready-made excuse for spending as little time around others as possible, he had a ready-made vessel in Moody's famous flask to keep his Polyjuice Potion in, and any worsening of Moody's behavior (in the eyes of observers) could easily be attributed in their minds to a deepening of Moody's paranoia. Paranoid people tend to get more and more paranoid as time goes on, that is [art of why it is considered a personality disorder in its own right. He took a terrible risk stealing from Snape's office, but the Potions Master was primed to suspect Harry Potter -- and did just that. Snape also could have suspected another student first, Snape allowed the possibility that a "student" had been in his office to take ingredients for illicit brewing.

And Polyjuice might be NEWT-standard, but we are shown that second-years can brew it if they are careful and diligent.

Finally ... don't make a light joke of summary execution. Just. like, at all. Ever.
 
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