Ranma ½ Quick question, answer is needed urgently.

GenocideHeart

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#1
Exactly how many years have passed between Ranma's Nekoken training and his arrival at the Tendo dojo? Was it ever stated?
 

Lord Raa

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#2
Depends on whether you go by the anime or the manga.

One says Ranma was six when he was trained, the other says he was ten.

Unfortunately, I can't say which is which with absolute authority, but I think that he was six in the anime.

So in answer to your question: either six years or ten years (as he's 16 when he arrives).
 

GenocideHeart

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#3
Lord Raa said:
Depends on whether you go by the anime or the manga.

One says Ranma was six when he was trained, the other says he was ten.

Unfortunately, I can't say which is which with absolute authority, but I think that he was six in the anime.

So in answer to your question: either six years or ten years (as he's 16 when he arrives).
Hmm... I generally go by the manga, though I plan to include parts from the anime in my fic...

Thank you. I'll go with him being 10.

One more question. Was the Nekoken training done in China, or did they get there later on? I think I have some facts mixed up.
 

GenocideHeart

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#5
Fatuous One said:
It wasn't done in China, as they didn't travel there until the end of their trip. Probably somewhere in Japan, although it was never stated.
Thank you. It is as I suspected.

Good, now that I got all the facts straight, I can start messing around with this. :lol:

Hmm... if you believe the anime, Ranma was subjected to the Nekoken training shortly after leaving Nodoka, since he left when he was... 4? 5?

Hm... yeah, I think this can be arranged. It IS a slight AU, anyway, so I'm not too worried about events not respecting the timeline...
 

Lord Raa

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GenocideHeart said:
Hmm... if you believe the anime, Ranma was subjected to the Nekoken training shortly after leaving Nodoka, since he left when he was... 4? 5?
Ranma and Genma left when Ranma was 5 or 6.



And when it comes to messing around with the timeline, I always say "go for it!"

I mean, I did it with Make Room for Daddy, Dark Heart's Desires and for Don't Stop Me Now, I have Gendo being serviced by Ritsuko from the beginning.

To me knowledge, and there's no evidence that they were doing it at that point in the series. I assume that it was later on that they started knocking boots together. :p
 

GenocideHeart

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#7
Heh. Well, I'll just worry about telling my own story and not be too concerned about following the canon timeline. After all, I am best when I can take the existing story and fuck it up royally. XD
 

Lord Raa

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#8
I'm intrigued as to what you're planning for this one...


You're obviously planning to have something go a bit differently during hte Neko-ken training, but what?
 

GenocideHeart

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#10
Fatuous One said:
This would probably have to do with your Ranma idea involving that dragon-girl, right?
You'd be guessing correctly, although I changed a few things around.

Rachel is still a Dragonmaiden, but now Dragonians are akin to the Endless in Breath of Fire... basically, they can't die of natural causes and don't grow old, but can still be killed.

The Neko-ken training is going to take place as usual, but there's going to be... repercussions. That is all. :p

EDIT: This is the new background/plot I came up with for the fic.

Basically, shortly after leaving Tokyo, Ranma and Genma make their way to Hokkaido. There, in a secluded area where no humans dare venture, they find a village of... let's call them 'people' who call themselves the 'Dragonians' and refer to the surrounding area as the 'Dragon Nation'.

It is hinted there are more villages, but all of them are under the Earth, and that village is the only surface one. Most of the townspeople look human... if you overlook the Chinese dragon-style horns, patches of scales in various places of the body and slitted eyes. In other words, from a distance they fool most people.

It also turns out the Dragonians developed some powerful martial arts styles, and Genma pulls his patented 'sell Ranma for stuff' thing, requesting scrolls and food in exchange.

Only, things don't quite go as planned, and Genma finds himself unable to 'recover' Ranma for the time being. During his stay in the Dragon Nation, Ranma grows close to Rachel Feobane, the daughter of the 'God Dragon-Empress' Serina Feobane.

Rachel is a half-human, half-dragon, or 'Great Dragonian', a hybrid who meshes the best of both worlds and is able to shift form between human and dragon at will. The human-looking Dragonians are all Great Dragonians, whereas the dragonic-looking ones are regular Dragonians.

As you guessed, Empress Serina has dragonlike features, while her life-mate, or zin 'na, is a human who, for some odd reason, is in love with her.

A couple months pass, and Rachel asks Ranma if he'd agree to be her life-mate. Not really understanding the meaning (Rachel assumes Ranma is as mature as ythe average Dragonian child, while he's not - a honest mistake), he agrees, and through a certain ritual, a part of Rachel's soul is bonded to his own, linking her to him.

However, just about at this time, Genma manages to spirit Ranma away. Rachel wants to go after him, but... unforeseen circumstances (hint hint) cause her a trauma, and while she's recovering, Genma and Ranma leave Japan.

Cut to 10 years later. Ranma is back in Japan. And, sensing that, Rachel sets out to find her life-mate...
 

SimmyC

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#11
Sounds interesting. Of course, I haven't read the manga/anime of Ranma. :unsure: Doesn't stop me from reading the fanfiction though. :p
 

Wonderbee31

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#12
Hmm, after going through the earlier forum, and reading the updated idea, I'd say go for it! It sounds like it could be a lot of fun.
 

Lord Raa

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#13
In my highly dubious opinion, I think Draconian sounds/reads better than Dragonian.
 

GenocideHeart

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#14
Lord Raa said:
In my highly dubious opinion, I think Draconian sounds/reads better than Dragonian.
Yeah, I wondered that myself. I was undecided between the two, mainly because 'draconian' has a negative connotation, which is why I was hesitant to use it. But it DOES sound better.
 

Lord Raa

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#15
Hmm, if they're based in Japan, then perhaps you could/should call them Ryuujin - Dragon People?
 

GenocideHeart

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#16
Lord Raa said:
Hmm, if they're based in Japan, then perhaps you could/should call them Ryuujin - Dragon People?
The thing is, they're not native from this world. The locals of Hokkaido have legends about the, and do indeed call them the Ryuujin, but they have a different name for themselves.

Draconians - I'll use this name for now - came to this world as a result of a summoning gone horribly wrong... with no way home anymore, the first ones decided to find an area where no one would disturb them and live there. Since extreme temperatures don't really bother them, Hokkaido's coldest regions and mountains were perfect, so they settled there.

It should be noted that although they reached the Ranma world centuries ago, Draconians hardly increased in numbers. That is because not only do Draconian females rarely procreate more than once per decade (though when it does happen, it usually is more than one child at a time), but also because they found themselves in on-and-off conflicts with the Phoenix tribe of China, who apparently don't appreciate their continued exostence anywhere in this world.

So... that about covers the background. Comments?
 

Lord Raa

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#17
You'll have to be careful that Ranma doesn't become too powerful too quickly.

Unless you're playing it for laughs, that is.
 

GenocideHeart

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#18
Lord Raa said:
You'll have to be careful that Ranma doesn't become too powerful too quickly.

Unless you're playing it for laughs, that is.
Oh, I don't plan to power Ranma up much, if at all. He's going to learn a couple new stances and attack styles, but no new moves, really. Draconians specialize in ground combat, you see, so there's little he can learn from them.

Also, Rachel is technically much more powerful than Ranma, but when she gets to Nerima she's in a crippled state, as not only has she lost part of her soul when the lifebond between her and Ranma was inerrupted, which caused her spiritual force to drop (though that part of her soul is still within him), but Draconian rules impose that a Draconian venturing in the mortal world has most of his power sealed away, lest he/she cause a catastrophe by losing his or her temper.

That is especially true of Dragonmaidens like Rachel. At full power and with her soul whole, Rachel could take Saffron on one-on-one and win with relatively little trouble. But as she is when reaching Nerima, she's overall slightly weaker than start-of-series Ranma. She has less skill in combat, though she's got a lot more brute force and is faster.

Also, she's not too good at barehanded combat, since she's used to fighting with her halberd, and without it her effectiveness drops sharply.

For the record, her power is sealed away by the jewelry she wears (an idea from O!MG). Considering that she wears eight rings, four earrings per ear, three necklaces, two ankle bracelets and four wrist bracelets, I think you can guess exactly how much power she has when unsealed and with a whole soul. There's a reason why Dragonmaidens are also called 'the Children of the Star Dragon God'. :lol:
 

Lord Raa

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GenocideHeart said:
For the record, her power is sealed away by the jewelry she wears (an idea from O!MG). Considering that she wears eight rings, four earrings per ear, three necklaces, two ankle bracelets and four wrist bracelets, I think you can guess exactly how much power she has when unsealed and with a whole soul. There's a reason why Dragonmaidens are also called 'the Children of the Star Dragon God'. :lol:
That's a fair old bit of bling she's carrying around with her.
 

GenocideHeart

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#20
Lord Raa said:
That's a fair old bit of bling she's carrying around with her.
Yeah. Mind you, she can take off most of them when sleeping or bathing, as they're tailor made so that unless ALL of it is taken off, her power will remain sealed. The only ones she must never, under any circumstance, remove, are the earrings, which alone seal off 50% of her power. The rest of the 'jewelry set' can be destroyed in order to temporarily unleash a small part of the Dragonmaiden's power, although after a while, the rest of the jewelry will seal that unleashed power off as well.

Her jewelry is specifically made to work in unison and cover for each other's destruction, and as long as at least half of the set exists, her power will be safely contained. However, should more than half the set be destroyed, her power will overload the remaining set, and either permanently unseal part of said power or outright destroy the entire set, unleashing ALL of it, which might well level a small city in the process.

Technically, she doesn't need to bathe, as she can just use Dragon Magic to clean herself magically, but it's one of her guilty pleasures - she absolutely loves hot springs and hot baths in general, and will spend several hours soaking in if she gets the occasion.
 

GenocideHeart

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#21
I should also add that Rachel HAS to take off all except her earrings if she wants to shift to her dragon form, which isn't particularly big, anyway (Great Draconians' dragon forms increase in size with age, and Rachel is young even by human standards, let alone Draconian ones).

In dragon form, she stands on two legs (thus, more of a dragonman form than dragon), is red-scaled and is about as big as Pantyhose's cursed form. Her mother, Empress Serina, is a lot bigger - you could mistake her for a small hill if you ran into her on the surface.
 
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