Nasuverse Random idea.

G

GenocideHeart

Well-Known Member
#1
#1
So yeah, everything goes as usual up until the first meeting with Ilya and Berserker, right?

Only, Berserker is not Berserker. Well, not the one we know.

Can you all say DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM? :snigger:

Yes, yes, short and not fleshed out. Sue me. I'm poor anyway. You'll lose money. :snigger:
 
C

Cornuthaum

Well-Known Member
#4
#4
Eh, Kratos is an OK berserker - he fits all those nasty criteria (bloody fucking insane, for instance).

But most importantly, it's a crossover where he ISN'T hideously overpowered in comparison to the competition - at least not more so than Herakles himself was.

In an universe filled to the brim with LOL OVERKILL MEGADAMAGE PEW PEW LAZOR DEATH weapons, even a slayer of gods can die :D
 
Z

zeebee1

Well-Known Member
#5
#5
But is this the legend of Kratos the army killer or Kratos the god?
 
G

GenocideHeart

Well-Known Member
#7
#7
goldenwolfeye said:
What would be the special ability of his blades of athena?
Click to expand...
Dismember anything they hit, even if it's a glancing blow? :snigger:

Hey, it fits, and if Lancer can INSTANTLY KILL with 100% accuracy, barring ludicrous defenses or luck, then merely losing a few body parts is certainly acceptable.

Granted, Kratos would still be scarily powerful, since Mad Enhancement further increases his already-ridiculous strength (his pwning of the Colossus of Rhodes comes to mind), but conversely he'd lose his magical attacks - not that most players actually USE them, the vast majority just savagely eviscerates anyone and anything that gets in the way.

That said, I really REALLY hope for the Masters' own good that nobody gets in the way. Servants can probably recover from his blades' attacks, but I am dead certain that Masters will be reduced to chunky salsa. And I'm not sure even Avalon can fix Shirou's body if it's scattered across a kilometer of town.
 
G

goldenwolfeye

Well-Known Member
#8
#8
doesnt berserker status remove all noble phantasms? thats what happened to Herakles right?
 
G

GenocideHeart

Well-Known Member
#9
#9
goldenwolfeye said:
doesnt berserker status remove all noble phantasms? thats what happened to Herakles right?
Click to expand...
No - otherwise it would shut down God Hand as well. It just locked him out of using his bow, Nine Lives. He just desn't have the brainpower needed to use a bow anymore.

The Athena Blades don't have that problem. They are a straightforward 'maim them until their pieces STOP MOVING' weapon, and thus require little brainpower besides 'choose enemy and hack apart'.

And there's always the Blade of Olympus, anyway. Or Kratos's bare hands. :p
 
T

ttestagr

Well-Known Member
#10
#10
Berserker's can't use any Noble Phantasm that they have to call out the name to activate. Which is most of them. Passive abilities, especially those that have grown into Noble Phantasms, are still active. Herakles Godhand is the perfect example. Archer's blades would be too if he could be that class, since throwing one has it automatically return the the bearer of the other.
 
G

GenocideHeart

Well-Known Member
#11
#11
ttestagr said:
Berserker's can't use any Noble Phantasm that they have to call out the name to activate. Which is most of them. Passive abilities, especially those that have grown into Noble Phantasms, are still active. Herakles Godhand is the perfect example. Archer's blades would be too if he could be that class, since throwing one has it automatically return the the bearer of the other.
Click to expand...
The Artemis Blades are grafted onto Kratos's arms, so my personal belief is they'd be permanently active. Because, y'know... grafted to his arms and all.

Just my opinion, anyway.
 
T

ttestagr

Well-Known Member
#12
#12
GenocideHeart said:
ttestagr said:
Berserker's can't use any Noble Phantasm that they have to call out the name to activate.? Which is most of them.? Passive abilities, especially those that have grown into Noble Phantasms, are still active.? Herakles Godhand is the perfect example.? Archer's blades would be too if he could be that class, since throwing one has it automatically return the the bearer of the other.
Click to expand...
The Artemis Blades are grafted onto Kratos's arms, so my personal belief is they'd be permanently active. Because, y'know... grafted to his arms and all.

Just my opinion, anyway.
Click to expand...
Since they're not Noble Phantasms as written, it would be up to the author to decide how exactly the legend got interpreted and what their powers are. Basically if you want them to have a passive ability, just write them that way. I'd stay away from giving them a called out regular power on top of that though.
 
C

Cornuthaum

Well-Known Member
#13
#13
I'd say that the blades have the inherent ability to wound ANYTHING and ANYONE regardless of inherent defenses - but the servant would still have to be able to actually HIT his target in order to apply said wound.
 
F

firestorm

Well-Known Member
#17
#17
kratos, captain of the spartan army?

hmm...

servant saber - leonidas, with noble phantasm 'gates of fire', the ultimate defense? :p
 
M

Mea Nihil

Well-Known Member
#18
#18
firestorm said:
kratos, captain of the spartan army?

hmm...

servant saber - leonidas, with noble phantasm 'gates of fire', the ultimate defense? :p
Click to expand...
If you ask me, Leonidas's ultimate NP would be 'Kick the Enemy into the Conveniently Placed Bottomless Pit'.

What can I say? That scene stands out the most in my mind...
 
B

biigoh

Well-Known Member
#19
#19
I would have thought that Leonidas' Noble Phantasm would have been much like the "Aionian Hetairoi: Army of the King" that Rider of the 4th Holy War deployed against Gilgamesh.

Basically, summon up the army that made him legendary, the 300. :p
 
F

firestorm

Well-Known Member
#20
#20
why can't he have both? :p there's more obscure servants that have two noble phantasms...

gates of fire - shield wall, like archer's rho aias, an ultimate defense that can withstand three attacks from any weapon (representing the three days the greeks held against the persian army)

spartan glory - phalanx of the three hundred, summons 300 warriors, each on the level of a rank c saber, to fight for leonidas (rank c, because saber is rank a and she is said to be the most powerful servant in the war in unlimited blade works when she gets a proper master).

so...

class saber

true name: leonidas

sex: male

height/weight: 200 cm 80 kg

alignment: true neutral

strength: a
endurance: a
agility: b
magical energy: d
luck: c
noble phantasm: a

class abilities:
magic resistance: c
(no riding as would be normal for sabers, since sparta's cavalry was not very important)

skills:
battle continuation: a
divinity: d (legend stating spartans are descended from hercules)
instinct: b
charisma: b
bravery: a

noble phantasm:
gates of fire - shield wall:
rank b, type: support, range: -, maximum target: -
a wall of shields that can withstand any attack three times, representing the three days the spartan army withstood the persian army.

spartan glory - phalanx of the three hundred:
rank ex, type: anti-army, range: -, maximum target: -
summons three hundred rank c servants of class saber with rank e independent action to fight for leonidas, representing the legendary three hundred spartan hoplites who fought to the death in the name of their king.


i imagine he'd be fairly weak against servants assassin and caster, considering how iirc he really wasn't exposed to magic the way servants like arturia or cu chulainn would have been.
 
T

toraneko

Well-Known Member
#21
#21
The Spartan armies were known for their use of spears and shields, not swords. They had swords, but used them only when they couldn't use their spears. I'm not sure if Saber would be a class for Leonidas.
Lancer would probably be out, too, considering the strength of the Spartan phalanx was in endurance, not agility.

The trick about the "gates of fire" (should be "hot gates" - Thermopylae) is, it has a critical weakness, and if the enemy can find it, penetrating its defense is easy.

And Kratos as Berserker would own in the Heaven's Feel.
 
F

firestorm

Well-Known Member
#22
#22
well, one of the defining traits for class saber, one of the 'knight' classes, is high all around stats, and leonidas would certainly have that. i realized when i was writing it that leonidas uses a spear/shield combo more then a sword, but lancer doesn't work, given that (as you stated) lancers are known for agility, not endurance. all in all, saber fits best, imo.

yeah, i know the actual translation...but 'hot gates' sounds too much of a sexual term for me... <_<
 
B

biigoh

Well-Known Member
#23
#23
Doesn't he also have a sword, shield beyond the short spear?
 
T

The Sandman

Well-Known Member
#24
#24
Here'd be the scariest thing about Kratos as Berserker: he'd probably remain lucid despite the Mad Enhancement, because he was insane even before it was applied.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top