Ranma ½ [Ranma ½] Miscellaneous ideas.

H-Man · May 21, 2006

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...why not have either Genma or Kaori's father have some sort of life debt towards the other (for example, Genma saving Kaori's father per accident) and, in order to get out of it, a marriage between son and daughter was arranged?

It may not be that original, but come on - it's more plausible and less complicated to work with.

(Also, if only I had read Ranma 1/2...)

GenocideHeart · May 21, 2006

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Another idea:

-Ranma's Bizarre Adventure (Ranma/Jojo)

Stand, Ranma craziness and WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY, oh my!

(it sums the idea up, really.)

Moshulel · May 21, 2006

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i was just thinking ( not an ideea ) how would it be if Ranma was engaged to all the clicheed normal pairings ?
Ranma+Kasumi+Mutsumi+Hotaru+Belldandy+Sasami ?

Hawk · May 22, 2006

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> 1) Ranma AU: what if Cologne had the same 'skill' as Hinako, only in reverse?
> IE, she grows younger temporarily by draining ki.
>
> It's an idea that I got from Atlus's fighting game Power Instinct. Otane and
> Oume Goketsuji can do that when they kiss the opponent.

Yugh, I wonder if this isn't one of those cases where the end doesn't justify the means... Just imagine smooching with that old hag, even if she'd turn into one hell of a hottie after the fact, there'd still have to be lip-to-lip contact with her.

*shudders*

> i was just thinking ( not an ideea ) how would it be if Ranma was engaged to all
> the clicheed normal pairings ?
> Ranma+Kasumi+Mutsumi+Hotaru+Belldandy+Sasami ?

A little slice of heaven for poor Ranma, is my guess.

Y'know, that's actually not a half-bad idea there.

What if Genma had fucked up nearly as badly as he did in canon, arranging marriages left and right, but the girls in question aren't certifiably insane and/or incurably violent, but nice, calm and kind gals?

Kasumi should certainly be one of them, if for nothing else then to still have the other Tendo's around. "Our firstborns shall be joined in marriage for the purpose of uniting the two schools."

Aoi from Ai Yori Aoshi would be another nice addition to the mix, though like already mentioned, it would have to be one heck of a reason for the Sakuraba family to foist their prized daughter off onto the son of an impoverished Martial Artist.

Mutsumi is certainly a possibility, seeing as how quirky the rest of the family is, I've got no problems imagining her parents making a deal with Genma.

And some other nice gals, just for additional flavouring.

Then have Ranma being his usual brash and self-centered self.

With the canon fiancees, he can be somewhat excused for acting as he does, since the girls are just as bad or worse themselves. But here, we'd have genuinely nice girls who he can't just taunt, insult, run away from or string along for all eternity.

Such a situation could be easily handled by making it a harem-fic, which are always nice. But I think it would be even more interesting, if this wasn't made into a harem fic, just so that Ranma has to handle the situation with the multiple girls somehow, so that he can finally be with the one girl he really likes.

It doesn't even have to be a crossover, it could merely be an AU where the girls have been raised differently or reacted differently to their respective circumstances.

Ukyo for instance, instead of reacting like she did and throw away her femininity, she could have chosen to embrace it to the fullest in order to get Ranma back to her once they finally meet up again.

Kodachi could have been brought up as an ultra-traditional woman, rivaling or exceeding Aoi in her mastery of the traditional arts and skills of a japanese wife.

And so on.

Now that would be interesting to see/read!

GenocideHeart · May 22, 2006

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My personal opinion is that Ranma is 'stringing along' the girls indefinitely because deep down he KNOWS that if he got married to Akane too soon, it'd be a total disaster that'd make his life miserable forever.

Think about it: later on, at the failed wedding, he was more than willing to marry her, because he finally got to sort his own feelings about it, but then we all know how it went.

Another part of the reason why he strings them along is because he's resentful of how his dad fucked his life up.

Third part is that Akane REALLY didn't encourage him in any way to like girls. The first girl he interacts with (he thought Ukyo was a boy remember) and she goes from nice to uberbitch just because he's really a boy - you'd be put off women too. :no:

Finally, a part of it is that it stroked his ego to be so sought after, but IMHO that's a very small part. The resentment/not ready part is the biggest one.

And frankly, he's right on all three earllier accounts - he has every right to be mad a his father for ruining his life and Akane for being a bitchy manhater, and while the way he lets his frustration off on the girls is unfair, it's totally understandable. And moreover, the Art is his life - and his dad basically wants him to be stuck running a dojo just so he can live off him, which is not fair to Ranma at all. Ranma is young, he can still learn much, but if he had to run a dojo, he'd have no time to learn anymore. It'd be like giving up the Art - which for Ranma is akin to dying.

The old saying does, after all, say 'Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.'. You think Ranma wants to be one of those who can't?

Just my $0.02.

Wonderbee31 · May 23, 2006

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Has there ever been a cross done between Ranma and another Takahashi comedy, Supergal/Maris the Choujo? I've searched for one, but not found it. I think a one shot could be realy funny, with a Ranma that kicks Shampoo of the log, into the Musk citadel, right into Herb's bed("Thank you God!"), his tap to Akane's head, well, sends her throught the walls of the dojo, and Genma, I think those mysoginistic ideas of his could be beaten out by Ranma/Maris's new strength.

Moshulel · May 23, 2006

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He was willing but i kinda doubt that he actually loves her, it's probably something more along the lines of "repaing" the kindness from the beginig of the series. Seriously i don't see how in the name of Hell can love develop between the two, since Akane behaves like a certified lesbian and a slave owner.

My opinion is mostly the same, i think he realises that if he maries her there will be nothing good resulting out of it ( i would even place a bet that they're first [and only] child will die of food poisoning)

I agree with you here, also i think that Genma's rush is also caused by the fear that Ranma will realise this and be out of his control. I don't think that his attitude towards the girls is unfair at all especially since he has bad experiences with them :

None of them take in consideration what HE wants

Ukyo: - She wants him to work in a restaurant with her.
Shampoo: -Male slave in her village.
Kodachi: - I'm not going there
Akane: -Most wanted marriage by his father it practicly makes him a slave in an abusive marriage.

And now for the non-fiancees:
Nabiki: She sees him only as a money source ( despite what many say about her my opinion is that she is a cold hearted bitch --- no offense Nabiki fans)
Kasumi: (This will definetly make me hated) Ignorant to everything around her ( just remember the incident with the cats i don't think a kind hearted person would do that )
Nodoka: Honor&Grandkids, so what if Ranma was a toddler when he left and didn't knew what was happening, so what if Ranma isn't ready to settle down, what yhe wants doesn't matter
Hinako: Just like Akane blames him for everything that goes wrong

So taking all of this in consideration i'm giving pretty big chances for him to become a woman-hater after the series

Also it might be the fact that he doesn't like any of them at an unconsious level.

Wonderbee31 · May 23, 2006

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Moshulel said:

All the girls/fiancee's in canon are pretty bad the way Takahasi eneded up doing them. Honestly, could you imagine spending your life with someone like Akane who treats you like crap, Kodachi who has a "complex" personality or any of the other girls as they were. Nabiki didn't totally redem herself, but at the end when she found out what Soun was doing to blackmail Ranma with the water, even she felt that went too far, and Kasumi, before she was lobotomized (take a look at the first volume, and then later on, she must've been) would have been a nice match for Ranma imo.

I think Ranma would be happy to continue studying his Art, and to be able to come home to someone that trusted him enough to let him go free, which would leave out the three official finacee's as well as Kodachi, and the other girls, I'm unsure, but the way Takahasi wrote Ranma, if he didn't kill himself, or if nothing changed, then I'd at least see him getting the hell out of Dodge before too much longer.

Moshulel · May 23, 2006

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I know about Kasumi ( most fics i read about her are based on the first volume) i even suspect that the author in his infinite knowledge suspected that they were a better match and decided that Kasumi needs to be lobotomized. As for Nabiki she didn't redeemed herself at all, i'm sure she had something in mind( hell she got money out of her sister's weding).

You know what they say: "If you love them you let them free" and i'm afraid that Ranma would have realised this sooner or later. No i don't think he would have killed himself especially when he is surrounded with so many "hounorable examples". In all Ranma needs an MATURE woman with him and not one of the Nerima girls. That's why i love Ranma/Setsuna.

Fatuous One · May 23, 2006

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*sigh*

As fucked up as the relationship is, there IS a relationship. Ranma does love Akane, unless he suddenly got into the habit of lying to himself. Whether the relationship is going to last is up for debate.

True. Although Nabiki really views him as more of an entertainment source in my opinion.

Yeah, Kasumi definitely has a nasty streak at times. I don't know how that got her into the 'ignorant' category though. :huh:

Ya know... while Nodoka IS nuts. She isn't as nuts about babies as people seem to believe. She certainly didn't break out into any 'grandchildren' dances in the manga that I can recall.

That's pure speculation on your part.

Uhm... what? Maybe I need to re-read that chapter again, but I do not recall Nabiki showing any remorse. The only line I remember from her was her shamelessly admitting to sending wedding invitations.

More like Takahashi got bored of her character and tried to use her as little as possible. She did that with a few characters, like getting rid of Doctor Tofu altogether. It'd have been odd if Kasumi suddenly disappeared though (being a Tendo household member and all), so she just got very little character development as a result.

Moshulel · May 23, 2006

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This is a result of hating this type of relastionship. Yes there is a relation between them but i think it's all based on the kindness she showed him at the very beggining, and we have to take in account the fact that he doesn't have a freaking ideea about normal relationships (once he realises how a relation actually is: bye bye fiancees)

That too but it doesn't change my opinion on her. ( Pictures of naked underaged girls ? hmmmm )

That was in lack of a better word for her.

Nope i don't recall any instances in which she started grandkids dances BUT she often had that star-eyed look and a weird behavior when talks about grandkids were involved. Ya a typical nutcase.

Well ... yes

In my opinion that was a big mistake, a relatively "normal" char would have been quite interesting.

Fatuous One · May 23, 2006

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Again, that's speculation on your part. What we can guess is pretty much limitless, but what we know from what is shown is that he cares for her. Loves her, if his own admission is accurate. -_-

My point before was that Ranma is an idiot. Even if he found a normal relationship (although, that's VERY unlikely. Since any normal person is likely going to be freaked out by his life), he would likely find it either a) abnormal himself, or B) boring as hell.

Ranma isn't going to get a clue, although that's just my opinion. Main reason I think is because he doesn't WANT to get a clue.

Well, it's her manga. And actually, I don't think I'd prefer Ranma 1/2 to be any other way it is.

Why, you ask? Well, if it wasn't the screwy, plot hole-filled, cluster fucked relationship story that it is, I wouldn't have so much fun watching/reading people mess with it.

If Ranma 1/2 ended up as a Ranma/Kasumi pairing, I can almost guarantee you that I wouldn't be all that interested it in, simply because it's ALREADY been done.

Moshulel · May 23, 2006

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Well he might not even know what love actually is. Long live speculation

and like i said that's why i feel the need for a Ranma/Older woman pairing ( besides the fact that i'm just a huge fan of that type of relationships).

Hmmm where ?
Anyway i liked the manga but i hated the girls in it. ( Quite obvious that the authoress has a dominatrix personallity lol )

Fatuous One · May 23, 2006

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I meant that IF it had been a Ranma/Kasumi pairing in the manga, I wouldn't be very interested in it. Reason being, it would have already been done thoroughly.

And yes, Takahashi does do the now stereotyped violent relationship a lot. Although, to be fair, Akane is the one who created that stereotype.

Rumiko has also done the same type of relationship with Urusei Yatsura (although, Ataru actually deserves his punishments. I honestly sympathize with Lum more. -_-) and more recently InuYasha (Wow, Kagome, you look kind of AKANE there... :sweat

. Takahashi has done a more Kasumi-like (main) character in Maison Ikkoku though.

Moshulel · May 23, 2006

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Fatuous One said:

Well actually my question was where was the Ranma/Kasumi relationship type encountered ( you said it was done before) sorry for the confusion. About Urusay Yutsura: yep Ataru is the worst pervert in all her mangas and he deserves every bit of his treatment.

Dark Knight Gafgar · May 23, 2006

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Wonderbee31 said:

Alien abduction.

Complete with lobotomization and anal probing.

SimmyC · May 24, 2006

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Hmm. The closest I could think of a Ranma/Kasumilike relationship that I have encountered in the mangas was... Oh! My Goddess. After all, in many ways, Belldandy is like Kasumi. Only, with goddess powers. All the mangas/anime I've encountered (which granted, is not a whole lot compared to you guys since I got into mangas/anime fairly late. And lack of income kept me from acquiring many in the first place) had the sterotypical violent girl main love interest. Well, violent to a varying degree granted, but still... same type of girl.

Now, if you meant it in a hypothetical situation Fatuous One, like if they went all at it in tha manga, than it would have been done to death there... you're probably right! Though in my case, I'd probably still like it given I'd still like the girl in this case. Which leads to my next point...

Like OMG, that isn't to say that I won't like alternatives. In fact, going on the idea of "If it's done in the canon, why not something else for the FANfiction? In fact, why not focus on the alternatives in fanfiction?" I might be saying I like the relationship in the canon if it was Ranma/Kasumi, but no reason that I also can't like Ranma/Ukyou, or Ranma/Nabiki in the fanfiction right? Of course, this is all mute since the pairing in the manga seems to be going towards Ranma/Akane anyways.

As for Urusei Yatsura, haven't read the series yet as well to be honest. :sweat: But from what I have read about it, this might be the one case where the main male character Ataru, DESERVED his punishment from Lam. I might actually prefer Lam with someone else in that situation much like how I prefer Sango with someone else besides Miroku (another one that deserves the punishment given to him).

Moshulel · May 24, 2006

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Actually there are plenty of mangas/animes without the typical violent girl, one that comes to mind now: Ai Yori Aoshi ( talked about it around here) for boy/girl type manga, Gundam Seed (for big robots type manga anime), Hana Yori Dango, Angel Densetsu (my favorite manga and probably an example to all Akane wannabees it shows girls that *gasp* look behind first impresions and to plus that two of the main characters are martial artists, you got to love that series) and another of my all time favorites Aishiteruze Baby and i can give more examples (yes i know i'm a softie at heart

). Anyway these mangas/anime show an alternative ( in my opinion a better option) to the typical violent girl as the main love interest.

For Urusay Yatsura: yes Ataru deserves his punishment but unlike Akane Lum wants him to be perverted but only with her. Miroku is a veryn interesting character btw and in my opinion even if he deserve his punishment most of the time you have to remember he has a hole in his hand and that he knows he will die from it so he lives his life lol.

Anyway i recommand for all of you to read Aishiteruze Baby if you haven't already, it's posibly the sweetest manga out there ( and a path to master kawaiiken lol)

GenocideHeart · May 24, 2006

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I should point out that the 'violent main female love interest' thing was NOT created by Rumiko Takahashi. The very first in the category was Kaori Makimura from City Hunter, who also was the first to popularize the giant hammers *and* the first female who basically refused to admit her feelings and hid them under a layer of violent jealousy.

Also, Urusei Yatsura predates Ranma 1/2.

Just for the record, Ranma started in 1987, while City Hunter started in 1985.

As you can see, the stereotype should be called 'the Kaori Syndrome'. :snigger:

Moshulel · May 24, 2006

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Yes but Saeba was also a very perverted man so most of the time he deserved what he had comming

hawker_748 · May 24, 2006

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Yeah, and she didn't just use mallets...

Despite the fact that Ryo could dodge bullets like Neo, she ALWAYS connected when she took a swing at him.

She'd sometimes even tie his ass up in a futon and hang him out the window.

Ahh, I loved that series. Perfect mix of humour, action, and drama...

Moshulel · May 24, 2006

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And lots and lots of nookie for Saeba (just remember his adventure with the foreign princes where he was rewarded by 50 women

). He's probably the idol of perverts everywhere BUT he was faithfull after the relation begun... poor guy had lots of bad luck afterwards ( sequel Angel Heart)

Fatuous One · May 24, 2006

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There isn't any Ranma/Kasumi in the manga. I was just making a random example, that if Ranma/Kasumi was the main pairing in the original, I certainly wouldn't be as interested in it as I am.

I didn't say that it was. However, the clichÚ was created through Akane Tendou.

Yeah, that's what I meant. I'm not sure why I seemed to confuse people... -_-

Actually, neither does Akane. She mostly uses the nearest random object or her fist.

Moshulel · May 24, 2006

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I'm sure they had to change that table atleast a hundred times .......

GenocideHeart · May 26, 2006

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Yet another idea:

What if Ranma hadn't defeated Shampoo when he first visited the Amazons, but Lin-Lin and Ran-Ran?

Among other things, IMHO:

-Since Lin-Lin and Ran-Ran are fairly incompetent at the whole stalk and kill thing, he might even grow attached to them and consider their repeated attempts to 'kill' him a nice surprise workout. Indirecly, this'd lead Lin-Lin and Ran-Ran to become better, as they're essentially training to hit a target so much better than them,, they have no choice but to at least improve their speed.

-It'd be interesting if they found out he was a boy *before* he reached the Tendo's, and gave him a Kiss of Marriage on the spot. The twins are impulsive, even though they can be patient, and seem obsessed with finding a strong husband. And if Genma put his foot in his mouth and let slip about the 'engagement', I even see Ranma running off on his own after giving the panda a beating. :snigger:

-It'd also be equally interesting if he actually found himself getting along with the twins more than with Akane. As I mentioned, Lin-Lin and Ran-Ran want first and foremost a strong husband, and they're much more likely to insist that he keeps training instead of having him settle down like any other Amazon consort. From that POV they are strangely non-Amazonish. They seem to think that there's no point in having a husband who isn't stronger than hey are.

-This also gives them an implicit advantage over the Tendo - with the twins, Ranma could keep training to his heart's content, as they're likely to not appreciate him settling down - again, they're obsessed with their husband being strong. At the dojo, he'd have to settle down and start teaching, which is somewhat unfair to one as young and promising as him.

-Of course, Ranma would likely balk at this, thinking them 'too young' - until hey point out rathe angrily that they're only 2 years younger than him. And he'd also obviously be disturbed by their willingness to share, heh heh. But I personally would find it sorta amusing if the 'underdog girls' actually came out the winners of the fiancee war. :yay:

So... whaddya think?

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