Ranma ½ [Ranma ½]Update List
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Yeah, I don't like him. It's always kind of pain when you like someone's writing only to discover that they're complete dicks in person (for a given definition of "in person" of course). I called him out on his bullshit once, years ago and his overall response could basically be summed up as "you don't like it simply because you're a Ranma-chan hater" when what I was complaining about was that he was butchering the non-Ranma 1/2 part of the crossover just so he could force the whole Ranma-chan thing in. He's also all too happy to play up being the persecuted victim. :sweat2:
For those whom cared... The following has, finally, updated to chapter 10, after about 3 1/2 years.
RANMA-MULTI 'Impacted Souls' by ZRO4825 - [Dld Date=01/29/2017] - [Dld Size=610kb] - [Dld File Cnt=10] - [Dld Status=In Process]
RANMA-MULTI 'Impacted Souls' by ZRO4825 - [Dld Date=01/29/2017] - [Dld Size=610kb] - [Dld File Cnt=10] - [Dld Status=In Process]
- - [MD Source=FF.NET] - [MD Category=Sailor Moon + Ranma Crossover] - [MD Rating=M] - [MD Word Cnt=117589]
- - [MD Summary= A couple years after Saffron's defeat Second Impact occurred. Now several years later a more mature Ranma deals with a vastly changed world.]
- - [Direct URL] https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7125108/1/
- - [Author1 URL] https://www.fanfiction.net/u/509664/
There's something I hav eto ask about Vimenthusiast Ranma/RWBY fic. A lot of people in story seem to be noticing how Ranma holds back in his fights,. They also expressed surprised at the Moko Takabisha. Let's be serious here, and someone please clear this up but are any of those skills all that unique and is what Ranma doing really all that impressive? Like him or hat ehim but I've seen better fight descriptions and ingenuity of Ranma's skills than what I saw here.
I'm just looking for a second opinion. Any takers?
I'm just looking for a second opinion. Any takers?
Huh... I've read that, it is ok I guess, but for his current Ranma stories I prefer the Star Wars, the Sekirei, and the HSDXD crossovers instead.
As for your question on the Moko Takabisha, it certainly is not new to us... but most of the attacks in RWBY I've seen don't do it the way Ranma was... nor could most fighters have done what is being claimed he did... so for *them* to be surprised is not really that big a deal, at least I did not think so.
Most of the surprising things in RWBY deals with expanding weapons, while cool, they really are out there... like Ruby's weapon as one example, and as another of course there is the one girl with the briefcase that looks like a door to door salesman would have instead expanding out into a minigun, and her still holding the whole thing one handed as it fires off shot after shot.
Nah, your feelings are on point.
The thing is that the author declares everything after 2nd volume of RWBY as undesirable, both facts of the world and the plot elements because "he doesn't like them".
And so, you get everyone and their uncle Qrow showering Ranma with praises of his ability, skill and experience, despite there being older and more experienced huntsmen and fighters who should be completely capable of wrecking him like a red headed step child.
It doesn't help that Ranma gets double ki boost because "aura/life is not ki/qi/life so he gets doubled power over regular huntsmen", because unlocking something everyone has within them with training and meditating (ki/chi/qi) is different to using aura by forcing it active or training and meditating into using it (like ki/chi/qi), wow, it's almost exactly the same.
I wonder if Ranma will get an OP semblance too, just to make him that much more "powerful", because Ranma stronk.
Let's ignore the fact that huntsmen can pretty much do the exact same things within the show, on top of being trained to fight in melee and at range, where most of their modern weapons can do both roles, although there are melee specialists and the ranged effectiveness of the weapons is lowered as the plot requires it (going from single shotting beowolves to just peppering them for no damage), also dust enhancements, dust magic usage, various Semblances of all kind, going from casuality effects, precog, Schnee 2OP pls nerf, soul jumping, speed bursting, clones, and so on and so forth.
I don't remember if Ranma has a semblance within his story yet, but I would say that he already has his semblance in the form of his tendency to "live in interesting times", much like Qrow has his bad luck semblance, giving Ranma new and exciting OP semblance out of nowhere is pretty much showing how he can't write Ranma decently. There is no need to give ranma ki squared level of power and a fancy new semblance when he is already an established fighter and has a lot of techniques already, there is no need to push these things onto him to integrate him into RWBY, he should just do what he always does when met with a new challenge, learn and adapt and maybe develop a variant of his existing techniques to be a more efficient huntsman.
Also, muh male Maiden hints in the later chapters, despite him saying how he is not going to use volume 3+ things from RWBY, all that salt
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The thing is that the author declares everything after 2nd volume of RWBY as undesirable, both facts of the world and the plot elements because "he doesn't like them".
And so, you get everyone and their uncle Qrow showering Ranma with praises of his ability, skill and experience, despite there being older and more experienced huntsmen and fighters who should be completely capable of wrecking him like a red headed step child.
It doesn't help that Ranma gets double ki boost because "aura/life is not ki/qi/life so he gets doubled power over regular huntsmen", because unlocking something everyone has within them with training and meditating (ki/chi/qi) is different to using aura by forcing it active or training and meditating into using it (like ki/chi/qi), wow, it's almost exactly the same.
I wonder if Ranma will get an OP semblance too, just to make him that much more "powerful", because Ranma stronk.
Let's ignore the fact that huntsmen can pretty much do the exact same things within the show, on top of being trained to fight in melee and at range, where most of their modern weapons can do both roles, although there are melee specialists and the ranged effectiveness of the weapons is lowered as the plot requires it (going from single shotting beowolves to just peppering them for no damage), also dust enhancements, dust magic usage, various Semblances of all kind, going from casuality effects, precog, Schnee 2OP pls nerf, soul jumping, speed bursting, clones, and so on and so forth.
I don't remember if Ranma has a semblance within his story yet, but I would say that he already has his semblance in the form of his tendency to "live in interesting times", much like Qrow has his bad luck semblance, giving Ranma new and exciting OP semblance out of nowhere is pretty much showing how he can't write Ranma decently. There is no need to give ranma ki squared level of power and a fancy new semblance when he is already an established fighter and has a lot of techniques already, there is no need to push these things onto him to integrate him into RWBY, he should just do what he always does when met with a new challenge, learn and adapt and maybe develop a variant of his existing techniques to be a more efficient huntsman.
Also, muh male Maiden hints in the later chapters, despite him saying how he is not going to use volume 3+ things from RWBY, all that salt
.Yeah, but then Vim wouldn't be able to come up with such wildly original ideas as having Kiba go full-Kuno in the HSDXD fic and attack Ranma for no reason.
Because of course the closest competition for Ranma regarding women fawning all over them has to act like a raging douchenozzle for no reason. Who needs proper characterization when you want to make sure your personal RINO (Ranma in name only) looks as awesomely unique and cool as possible?
Now, I do read Vim's stuff, despite how often his writing style rubs me the wrong way. I'm not sure what the term is, but it feels like he's jerking his audience around at times, and the blatant bashing he does over and over again is just draining and boring, especially when it's towards teh same characters over and over again.
Hell, I'm writing a fic right now called "Imperial Servant" that was SOLELY done because of his treatment of the "Ranma's sex drive was shut off by Genma when he was a kid" idea. Basically, I took the things he ignores when he puts that in his stories and went, "Let's reverse this, make it logical, and HOPEFULLY make it better".
I went a bit off topic there, but the point is that I don't see his fics as fixing, as much as "This is why RINO is awesome and everyone else sucks!", which is a far different animal.
Because of course the closest competition for Ranma regarding women fawning all over them has to act like a raging douchenozzle for no reason. Who needs proper characterization when you want to make sure your personal RINO (Ranma in name only) looks as awesomely unique and cool as possible?
Now, I do read Vim's stuff, despite how often his writing style rubs me the wrong way. I'm not sure what the term is, but it feels like he's jerking his audience around at times, and the blatant bashing he does over and over again is just draining and boring, especially when it's towards teh same characters over and over again.
Hell, I'm writing a fic right now called "Imperial Servant" that was SOLELY done because of his treatment of the "Ranma's sex drive was shut off by Genma when he was a kid" idea. Basically, I took the things he ignores when he puts that in his stories and went, "Let's reverse this, make it logical, and HOPEFULLY make it better".
I went a bit off topic there, but the point is that I don't see his fics as fixing, as much as "This is why RINO is awesome and everyone else sucks!", which is a far different animal.
One point on this I would make, is it technically is original, since there are so few Ranma and HS DXD crossovers out there. Also, it actually sort of fits the scenario. But meh...
As for VE in general... he has good and bad points, much like Ozzallos, each has a trend they tend to, but not always, go in. For Ozzallos, it is many but not all stories have Ranma locked or otherwise spending a lot of time female. For VE, that is instead harems. So far, one of the only ones VE has resisted on that impulse in is the Ranma/Star Wars Crossover. Though it sounds like it may not be that way much longer. For some of his stories, the harem subplot actually makes sense for the circumstances they find themselves in (like the Ranma/Sekirei and Ranma/HSOTD crossovers), not for all though.
If you can read past these various hangups authors have... the stories can be fairly enjoyable still... if not, well, there are other stories to read.
Meh... I still am of the opinion the way written, up to this point, it could just be Ranma... there have been stories to go that route too, and he merely needed to be overloaded. 'The Art of War' by WFROSE comes to mind.
As for VE in general... he has good and bad points, much like Ozzallos, each has a trend they tend to, but not always, go in. For Ozzallos, it is many but not all stories have Ranma locked or otherwise spending a lot of time female. For VE, that is instead harems. So far, one of the only ones VE has resisted on that impulse in is the Ranma/Star Wars Crossover. Though it sounds like it may not be that way much longer. For some of his stories, the harem subplot actually makes sense for the circumstances they find themselves in (like the Ranma/Sekirei and Ranma/HSOTD crossovers), not for all though.
If you can read past these various hangups authors have... the stories can be fairly enjoyable still... if not, well, there are other stories to read.
Meh... I still am of the opinion the way written, up to this point, it could just be Ranma... there have been stories to go that route too, and he merely needed to be overloaded. 'The Art of War' by WFROSE comes to mind.
Very true. It just comes off as a bit annoying because he is one of the most regularly updating fic authors out there and his stories aren't full of eye-hurting grammer/spelling or AMATEURISH mistakes.
But that doesn't change/excuse some of the really flagrant Mary-Sueing he does, and how it makes me break into metaphorical hives. Or the REALLY cheap ways he'll change a character for no reason to make them worse, either to make a not-crap character more unlikeable (Kiba acting KUNO scales of dumb) or making an already irredeemable villain even worse.
Palpatine. Freaking Palpatine is not only sexist, but he's also a F*ck-mothering Sexual Predator, because ALL of Vim's bad guy's are sexual predators and sexist. That grinds my gears, because it's like somebody making a WWII fic and writing a piece where Hitler eats someone alive! There's ZERO reason why you had to make them more of a monster than they already were by pulling some bulls*it out your ass!
That's more than fair, and honestly, that was kind of the point. There's no way in hell that Ranma doesn't have a few issues regarding women and intimacy, and acting like that pressure point is an On-Off switch from 'Harem Protaganist' to 'Normal guy' with no aftereffects is just lazy storytelling. And in my mind, if Ranma found out his sex drive was shut off since he was a kid, he would NOT immediately say, "Oh, I knew there was something missing!", because he was too young to realize what his developing hormones were doing to him. It just made sense to me that Ranma would think he was normal, and depending on how it was presented, he'd either go for help or get defensive and insist there was nothing wrong with him.
I went with the latter option, and apparently I sold it really well...if a little too well, lol.
But that doesn't change/excuse some of the really flagrant Mary-Sueing he does, and how it makes me break into metaphorical hives. Or the REALLY cheap ways he'll change a character for no reason to make them worse, either to make a not-crap character more unlikeable (Kiba acting KUNO scales of dumb) or making an already irredeemable villain even worse.
Palpatine. Freaking Palpatine is not only sexist, but he's also a F*ck-mothering Sexual Predator, because ALL of Vim's bad guy's are sexual predators and sexist. That grinds my gears, because it's like somebody making a WWII fic and writing a piece where Hitler eats someone alive! There's ZERO reason why you had to make them more of a monster than they already were by pulling some bulls*it out your ass!
That's more than fair, and honestly, that was kind of the point. There's no way in hell that Ranma doesn't have a few issues regarding women and intimacy, and acting like that pressure point is an On-Off switch from 'Harem Protaganist' to 'Normal guy' with no aftereffects is just lazy storytelling. And in my mind, if Ranma found out his sex drive was shut off since he was a kid, he would NOT immediately say, "Oh, I knew there was something missing!", because he was too young to realize what his developing hormones were doing to him. It just made sense to me that Ranma would think he was normal, and depending on how it was presented, he'd either go for help or get defensive and insist there was nothing wrong with him.
I went with the latter option, and apparently I sold it really well...if a little too well, lol.
I could see this justified in Palpatine in one specific way... that fact he is Sith. You know, pass it off as merely another aspect of experiencing and drowning himself in various dark emotions. Truthfully, we have little to go on how Palpatine really did things behind the scenes, meaning his living day to day living.
To be honest, I could care less on that part of it.
Don't misunderstand, I see what you are doing... But I can see Ranma denying it (publicly) even if it was proven true, simply because by this point it has been proven time after time his weaknesses are constantly thrown in his face and used against him by those whom supposedly should be on his side... This also, is known by everyone present, and thus they automatically refuse to believe any such denial on his part and assume Genma did it to him and he needs to be pitied.
I could see hiim taking off on some adventure to try to find some master of pressure points to undo it...
To be honest, I could care less on that part of it.
Don't misunderstand, I see what you are doing... But I can see Ranma denying it (publicly) even if it was proven true, simply because by this point it has been proven time after time his weaknesses are constantly thrown in his face and used against him by those whom supposedly should be on his side... This also, is known by everyone present, and thus they automatically refuse to believe any such denial on his part and assume Genma did it to him and he needs to be pitied.
I could see hiim taking off on some adventure to try to find some master of pressure points to undo it...
'Unbelievable' is a very relative term... Many 'unbeliebable' matchups and scenarios are written, some quite popular, despite having tons of evidence to indicate they are not all that workable.
For example, I consider Nabiki/Kuno matchups fairly unbelievable (they do after all outright state to each other in canon just how much they hate each other), does not stop the popularity of that matchup though.
I think the problem many have with VE's stories though, and others, including myself in some scenarios, I think is the *ease* of the acceptance of harem scenarios by those whom have personalities you would not think would do so.
Many of these 'unbelievable' scenarios seem to me due more to lack of correct backstory than anything else.
I have seen harem scenarios with even mixes of canon fiancees... with the correct backstory, I think it can work... But man oh man would it take a heck of a backstory to make all these girls like not just Ranma but like *each other* enough to put up with each other.
Oh... and since this is after all an update thread... how about an actual update...
The following updated to chapter 4 yesterday: RANMA 'What Do You Want' by polenicus. Shaping up to be an interesting Ranma and Nabiki setup.
For example, I consider Nabiki/Kuno matchups fairly unbelievable (they do after all outright state to each other in canon just how much they hate each other), does not stop the popularity of that matchup though.
I think the problem many have with VE's stories though, and others, including myself in some scenarios, I think is the *ease* of the acceptance of harem scenarios by those whom have personalities you would not think would do so.
Many of these 'unbelievable' scenarios seem to me due more to lack of correct backstory than anything else.
I have seen harem scenarios with even mixes of canon fiancees... with the correct backstory, I think it can work... But man oh man would it take a heck of a backstory to make all these girls like not just Ranma but like *each other* enough to put up with each other.
Oh... and since this is after all an update thread... how about an actual update...
The following updated to chapter 4 yesterday: RANMA 'What Do You Want' by polenicus. Shaping up to be an interesting Ranma and Nabiki setup.