Ranma ½ Ranma Related to the Senshi

#1
Given how often Ranma/SM crossover fics come up I thought it might be nice to try and compile a list of fics where Ranma is related to the Senshi in some way, chime in with any cases you know and I'll add them the list:

Ami: Möbius strip (Half brother)
Minako: No Need For Destiny (Past life father)
Usagi: No Need For Destiny (Past life father), Heir to the Empire (Reincarnated past life mother)
Rei:
Makoto: Papa's Back (Father)
Hotaru:
Michiru:
Haruka: Sailor Mom (Son)
Setsuna: Causality (Adopted Father), OneHalf a Wing and a Prayer: Fly me to the Moon (Future Mother)
 

PCHeintz72

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#2
that would be a huge list.
 
#3
It would also be a waste of effort and time and internet space.
 
#4
nuclear death frog said:
It would also be a waste of effort and time and internet space.
Not as bad as many of the stories ON the list but. And at least I'm not starting one for stories where Ranma's ENGAGED to one or more Senshi
 

Stormfury

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#5
There used to be whole websites/webrings devoted to the idea youre putting up here.
 

seitora

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#6
I briefly entertained the idea of Ami's mother and father being Akane and Ryoga.

Ami's father after all is a 'wandering artist'  :snigger:
 

Dumbledork

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#7
In 'Heir to the Empire' by Ozzallos, Ranma is the reincarnation of Queen Serenity.

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/2797728/1/Heir-to-the-Empire
 

Contrabardus

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#8
Dumbledork said:
In 'Heir to the Empire' by Ozzallos, Ranma is the reincarnation of Queen Serenity.

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/2797728/1/Heir-to-the-Empire


Odin's Beard! This is terrible! So much fannon, nonsensical nicknames, and out of character dialogue!

This is exactly what happens when you make fanfics of fanfics instead of reading the source material.

This fic is a good example of everything that can go wrong with stories like this.
 

Anonguy

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#9
There's a reason why Ozz got his own hate thread after his updates kept derailing the update thread with rage.

(That reason being he sucks)
 
#10
Anonguy said:
There's a reason why Ozz got his own hate thread after his updates kept derailing the update thread with rage.

(That reason being he sucks)
I thought the reason people didn't like Ozz fics was because he's a Ranma-chan fanboy?

Still better then Anduril but, he seems the think that Ranma's girl half should be interested in boys (At least I THINK that's how it works, I haven't really investigated the matter)
 

Contrabardus

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#11
gemmaethanwhitaker said:
Anonguy said:
There's a reason why Ozz got his own hate thread after his updates kept derailing the update thread with rage.

(That reason being he sucks)
I thought the reason people didn't like Ozz fics was because he's a Ranma-chan fanboy?

Still better then Anduril but, he seems the think that Ranma's girl half should be interested in boys (At least I THINK that's how it works, I haven't really investigated the matter)
I didn't get far enough in to find that out, but it was a definite possibility the way things were going when I gave up. I gave it two chapters and that was more than enough.

It was bad, Akane and Ranma calling Kasumi 'Kasumi-chan', Ranma was calling Nabiki 'Nabs', Setsuna was 'Set-chan'. Ugh. That's just the tip of the OOC iceberg, and I could have forgiven it as a lack of knowledge about Japanese as a language and culture but that was just one symptom of a larger problem. It was just plain horrendous and pretty clear that Ozz was not familiar with Ranma or Sailor Moon outside of other [bad] fanfiction on numerous levels.

Ranma wasn't romantically linked to anyone in the story in what I read, but it was pretty clear that 'male' Ranma was going to be identifying as a woman before long. Based on what little I saw, she might have ended up in a lesbian relationship with Sailor Pluto. It was too early to say, but a lot of time was spent tying them together as 'good friends' early on. I don't care enough to skip ahead to find out if they were going to end up lovers or just super BFF 4-evahzz.
 

Stormfury

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#12
Ozz is a technically good writer, the major issue people have is he usually doesn't write Ranma, he writes an OC in Ranma's shoes. Some of his stories are enjoyable enough that I can ignore that. Some aren't. The ones that aren't are the ones where Ranma seems to choose to become female, rather then circumstances forcing him to be.
 

Contrabardus

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#13
Stormfury said:
Ozz is a technically good writer, the major issue people have is he usually doesn't write Ranma, he writes an OC in Ranma's shoes.  Some of his stories are enjoyable enough that I can ignore that.  Some aren't.  The ones that aren't are the ones where Ranma seems to choose to become female, rather then circumstances forcing him to be.
If by "technically" you mean that his grammar isn't bad, then yes. There were a few small mistakes here and there, but overall the structure was decent. It was readable and clear, but that didn't make it good.

The biggest problem with the story was that he didn't seem to know any of the characters. No one was behaving properly, and not in an Anime vs Manga way. The guy clearly only knew both series from the fanfics of others. He didn't have a clue about the culture, powers, or personalities of the actual source material. It was pretty much all pulled out of his ass using little but the names, locations, and a vague understanding of the basic relationships between the characters.

No one was in character in this story and the premise was rushed and poorly plotted out. It wasn't a case of just one character being off. It's just terrible fanfiction, the only thing good about it is the grammar side. He's got a decent grasp of the language and writing rules. Unfortunately that doesn't make up for the rest of it.
 

frice2000

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#14
So Ozzallos is mentioned whole thread gets derailed. It's always nice to see this forum move forward! And yes that specific fic of Ozz's has plenty of problems all around. That said it's an enjoyable story, if you aren't expecting canon. So yes, I'd say he's a fair author. In today's world could easily see paying a dollar or two for a story of that quality and length off of Amazon for my Kindle. Sure it's not perfect, but I didn't read it expecting high quality literature and it delivers in entertainment for me.

Anyway to get slightly back on topic there's https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1554940/1/Forever-the-Tomboy where 'Ranma' is Hotaru's adopted mother. Surprised that one wasn't mentioned, though I suppose it does sorta break the rules. Still, it remains pretty unique for me as that whole conceit is very rare in Ranma/SM stories. Sure it falls apart a bit in the later chapters but it was an interesting story for what it was. Strictly in character? Probably not.
 

Stormfury

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#15
Contrabardus said:
Stormfury said:
Ozz is a technically good writer, the major issue people have is he usually doesn't write Ranma, he writes an OC in Ranma's shoes.  Some of his stories are enjoyable enough that I can ignore that.  Some aren't.  The ones that aren't are the ones where Ranma seems to choose to become female, rather then circumstances forcing him to be.
If by "technically" you mean that his grammar isn't bad, then yes. There were a few small mistakes here and there, but overall the structure was decent. It was readable and clear, but that didn't make it good.

The biggest problem with the story was that he didn't seem to know any of the characters. No one was behaving properly, and not in an Anime vs Manga way. The guy clearly only knew both series from the fanfics of others. He didn't have a clue about the culture, powers, or personalities of the actual source material. It was pretty much all pulled out of his ass using little but the names, locations, and a vague understanding of the basic relationships between the characters.

No one was in character in this story and the premise was rushed and poorly plotted out. It wasn't a case of just one character being off. It's just terrible fanfiction, the only thing good about it is the grammar side. He's got a decent grasp of the language and writing rules. Unfortunately that doesn't make up for the rest of it.
I meant in that everything EXCEPT established characterizations is good- he writes good dialogue, handles descriptions and narrative very well, and all in all is a high quality writer in that sense.  It's just the characters, and the problem with that is that its fanfiction hes writing, not original stories.

If he was writing his own original characters like this, there'd be zero problems and he'd be a great writer.  But since he twists established personalities however he feels (and come on, 99.9% of every person who has ever used a sailor moon character in a fanfic does the exact same thing with the senshi), his stories start to get hurt.  Especially because his take on Ranma-chan is one that is completely countered by established canon.
 

Contrabardus

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#16
Stormfury said:
Contrabardus said:
Stormfury said:
Ozz is a technically good writer, the major issue people have is he usually doesn't write Ranma, he writes an OC in Ranma's shoes.  Some of his stories are enjoyable enough that I can ignore that.  Some aren't.  The ones that aren't are the ones where Ranma seems to choose to become female, rather then circumstances forcing him to be.
If by "technically" you mean that his grammar isn't bad, then yes. There were a few small mistakes here and there, but overall the structure was decent. It was readable and clear, but that didn't make it good.

The biggest problem with the story was that he didn't seem to know any of the characters. No one was behaving properly, and not in an Anime vs Manga way. The guy clearly only knew both series from the fanfics of others. He didn't have a clue about the culture, powers, or personalities of the actual source material. It was pretty much all pulled out of his ass using little but the names, locations, and a vague understanding of the basic relationships between the characters.

No one was in character in this story and the premise was rushed and poorly plotted out. It wasn't a case of just one character being off. It's just terrible fanfiction, the only thing good about it is the grammar side. He's got a decent grasp of the language and writing rules. Unfortunately that doesn't make up for the rest of it.
I meant in that everything EXCEPT established characterizations is good- he writes good dialogue, handles descriptions and narrative very well, and all in all is a high quality writer in that sense.  It's just the characters, and the problem with that is that its fanfiction hes writing, not original stories.

If he was writing his own original characters like this, there'd be zero problems and he'd be a great writer.  But since he twists established personalities however he feels (and come on, 99.9% of every person who has ever used a sailor moon character in a fanfic does the exact same thing with the senshi), his stories start to get hurt.  Especially because his take on Ranma-chan is one that is completely countered by established canon.
That's basically what I said, but he also gets cultural details wrong and never gets a decent flow to the narrative.

I don't know that he'd be that great of a writer with an original story. The plot here seemed rushed, the pacing was poorly done, and his grammar was far from perfect. It's not just a character issue, the story structure outside of the grammar elements was a mess. Characters dropped in out of nowhere and were never explained, things were plotted poorly, and the character personalities conflicted with the story's established logic even within the story.

I've read and enjoyed a few fanfics where the characters were OOC, this was a complete mess that was hard to follow from the start. It seems to assume that the reader should know an awful lot. A certain amount of that is expected with Fanfiction, but this kind of took it a bit too far. If this was an original work that was the same quality as this fic, it still wouldn't have been good.

It wasn't the worst thing I've ever seen by a long shot. It was readable from a grammar perspective, I knew who was saying and doing what, and where everything was set. It just did a poor job of setting things up, jumped around too much, and never established a clear arc or direction. The characters being 'off' only contributed to that and were really just a symptom of a larger problem.

I don't hate Ranma/Sailor Moon fics, and no particular flavor of that is particularly odious to me outside of fetish stuff that is extremely outside of my taste. Even then it's just something I'm not into and I wouldn't inherently label it as 'bad'. I'm also not very familiar with Ozzalos or his work, so it's not like I have a bias against the guy. I've heard the name around before, but haven't read anything but this from him as far as I can recall.

This fic just sucks. It's a poorly written story even though the technical grammar aspects are sound. The structure is off, it's poorly paced and plotted, the characterization is bad, and it's just not a well written story.
 
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