Naruto Rereading the Manga

[Knyght]

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Considering the only fights that Naruto gets into between now and when he achieves Sage Mode are minor scuffles with Itachi's Crow Clone and Tobi, the drawback of him suffering backlash from his jutsu could be removed without making any difference. You'd think that the amount of time and chakra required to create the Rasenshuriken, how blatantly attention grabbing it is and the fact that it doesn't last long would be enough of a deterrent to avoid frequent use. Seems unfair that it could permanently cripple him in that stage too when it doesn't even matter to the story.

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Once upon a time I mentioned that the official scan of the page showed that Shikamaru's scroll had a sealing formula on it and now I can actually see it properly. Pity that Kakashi didn't protect just Chouji so we could see that scroll in action.

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Do you think it wonder have been cooler if these chakra shrouds were common among elite shinobi?

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Ginkaku and Kinkaku have horns?

wut

How did I literally never notice this? Or they decorative or what?

 

[Altered Nova]

The horns are the same color as their headbands, so I assume they are decorative. I suspect the hair is decorative too, it looks a bit weird and heavily resembles a native american war bonnet (which also sometimes had buffalo horns).

 

[Knyght]

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Imagine if Kurama had just turned around and left.

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I wonder if Kabuto would have had more or less luck restraining him.

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I get the impression he was planning to test if the Sharingan -> Rinnegan theory was correct.

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For some reason, I assumed that the Tailed Beast Ball & Rasengan followed the exact same steps (excluding white/black chakra) but Minato apparently realised that rotation was needed to be mimic it. Makes it a bit more impressive in my eyes.

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"Jutsu recoil"

I guess that's what happened when Sasuke burned his hand with the Chidori against Itachi and when Naruto hurt his pathways first learning the Rasengan.

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He can tell which are adept? Is that a "I can see how powerful their chakra is" kind of thing?

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Hizashi still has the cursed seal which wouldn have disappeared when he died. Technically Hiashi could just used that to restrain him.

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I feel like Kishi flipped a switch on their reputation between now and the next chapter. Here they sound like great guys but then they're called the worst criminals and disgraces. I guess they're really controversial? Or maybe it's a before and after thing.

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Why would you revive someone with the specific ability to make their soul leave their body?

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I was thinking that they could have replaced Uzuki Yugao's little storyline with Kurenai.

Kurenai finds out that her lover had been killed, goes apeshit during the Konoha Crush with genjutsu (as opposed to vanishing offscreen), brings him flowers at the memorial and then grows closer to her supportive friend Asuma until they tie the knot post time skip.

Anything to take Yugao out of the story.

 

[AoMythology]

What's wrong with Yuugao?

 

[Altered Nova]

Imagine if Kurama had just turned around and left.

He probably would have been immediately hunted down by Akatsuki. Or a war would potentially start as teams of shinobi from every major village try to be the first to capture him and gain a new weapon. At the least, Naruto would not become a jinchuuriki. It would be an interesting divergence point for a fic.

I wonder if Kabuto would have had more or less luck restraining him.

Probably less, since he doesn't have Hashirama's cells to power up the jutsu.

He can tell which are adept? Is that a "I can see how powerful their chakra is" kind of thing?

I think it's more of a "I recognize that guy from the bingo/history book, he's a badass" thing. Or possibly a "He's an immortal zombie of an infamous ninja rather than a generic plant guy clone, so he's probably more dangerous."

Hizashi still has the cursed seal which wouldn have disappeared when he died. Technically Hiashi could just used that to restrain him.

I assume any seals on a person's body would just be cosmetic on a zombie. I mean if Sasori comes back without his puppet body then seals probably don't really come back either. Since I don't think a fuuinjutsu seal would modify the user's chakra like an organ transplant or organic body modification kinjutsu would.

I feel like Kishi flipped a switch on their reputation between now and the next chapter. Here they sound like great guys but then they're called the worst criminals and disgraces. I guess they're really controversial? Or maybe it's a before and after thing.

I think Darui was just being sarcastic when he praised them. Considering he segued from the praise into a punny threat while smirking.

Why would you revive someone with the specific ability to make their soul leave their body?

Kabuto probably figured it wouldn't become an issue unless something crazy happened like someone using genjutsu to force him to release the jutsu. Which he obviously didn't think could possibly actually happen.

The real question is why didn't Kabuto force Dan to actually use his killer jutsu against the shinobi alliance before he was captured?

 

[Knyght]

Dang that ninja timing.

What's wrong with Yuugao?

She was randomly introduced in the middle of the Konoha Crush swearing vengeance over her boyfriend who'd died 45 chapters beforehand. Which is, like, 44 chapters after anyone might have given a damn.

The invasion had been going on for over an hour. Her Hokage had a sword through his chest while trying to pull out Orochimaru's soul, Naruto was readying his final punch for Gaara, the arena was filled with corpses and the streets were still filled with fighting while she looks as if she was sitting on her ass without a scratch on her along with her entire Anbu squad. And when she does enter the battlefield, we don't see her do a damn thing because the fight was pretty much done.

Then the only other thing she does in the manga is place some flowers down for Hayate at the mas funeral. She's never seen again.

She's just so damn pointless.

 

[ankokudaishogun]

About the Caged Bird seal: what if it is imprinted in the SOUL and not in the body?
(obviously the real explanation is to distinguish him from Hiashi)

Also, I have some doubt causing sufferance and\or death to an unwilling immortal zombie would be very useful while the said zombie cannot stop himself from attacking anyway.

 

[Knyght]

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It's a shame that Tsunade didn't follow the example of her teammates by learning her own slug related jutsu. If anything, it's the opposite with Katsuyu's using Tsunade's[/is] jutsu instead.

Being able to spit acid like Jiraiya's spits oil would do wonders for her long range game. Generally, I imagine she just breaks the ground and throws rocks at people otherwise.

And maybe if she was the one with Mu's Fission Jutsu to split herself; she could have healed Konoha with one half and fought Pain with the other. She would have lost but still...

 

[Knyght]

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Don't normally think about Boruto-related stuff but I suddenly had the idea that Momoshiki's Rinnegan could be implants like Danzo's Sharingan rather than naturally awakened for why he has them on his hands, and maybe why he can only use them to suck up chakra.

 

[Altered Nova]

That idea fits with the fact that he's apparently never actually eaten a chakra fruit like Kaguya did (I wonder why not?), but rather refines them into some kind of medicine. But it raises the question... where did he get those Rinnegan from?

 

[Knyght]

From an Otsutsuki who had eaten the fruit of another planet or the descendant of someone who had like Hagoromo (dead or alive)? They'd been doing this for god knows how long so Kaguya probably wasn't the first to eat the fruit itself.

 

[ankokudaishogun]

In the manga, the thing generated by Momoshiki absorbing Kinshiki looked a lot like the Chakra-Chakra Fruit

 

[Altered Nova]

Yeah but it obviously wasn't a real chakra fruit, it was made from a person not a god tree.

I find the idea that Kaguya wasn't the first person to eat a chakra fruit and that Momoshiki has destroyed multiple worlds to be kind of crazy since it sort of pushes this series into borderline sci-fi. Are Kaguya and Momoshiki rogue supervillains, or is this standard practice for their people? Are the Otsutsuki a clan of planet looters who plant gods trees on primitive unsuspecting worlds throughout the universe in order to drain the life from them and later return to ascend into godhood? Do they have advanced spaceships they use to travel between solar systems (maybe that's where Asura Path gets it's tech?) Do they use space-time ninjutsu to travel between alternate timelines of the same planet (are all the dimensions Kaguya can warp to alternate versions of Naruto's planet that have already been genocided by a god tree?)

 

[ankokudaishogun]

the Momo\Kin cameo in the Boruto episode suggests they travel by space-time techniques and that harvesting Chakra-Chakra Fruits from various planets is the modus operandi of their clan

 

[Altered Nova]

But are they using space-time jutsu to cross light years to different solar systems in the same universe, or to travel to parallel universe versions of the same planet?

 

[ankokudaishogun]

They talk about "dimensional walls". It doesn't mean those are alternate Narutoearths, though. They might well be completely unrelated planets in different parts of the universes.

 

[Knyght]

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I assumed that this was the first time Naruto had ever experienced Kurama's negative emotion sensing for obvious reason but it's possible that it had been a thing every time he used its chakra. He just wouldn't have been able to tell because he's typically pissed off in that state which is only made worse by Kurama's hatred.

There were just two occasions where Naruto was using its chakra for more than a single jutsu and was in a lucid state: once against Neji and once against Gaara. In both situations he'd be more focused on kicking the ass in front of him and he's never one for introspection after the fact either.

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Wow, Kakashi. Good job leaving the Hokage in the dark about Sasuke's whereabouts after he disappeared from the hospital in the middle of the night. Not like we might need those Anbu squads for anything important. :sweat2:

I can understand being cautious but I'm pretty sure this is the one guy you should let in on the secret.

 

[ankokudaishogun]

maybe he DID but Raidou wasn't supposed to know

 

[Knyght]

Remember those gifs of Naruto girls being compared to Greek goddesses a long time back? Yeah, suddenly got reminded of that the other day and ended up making my own list just cuz. Hardly worth its own thread so here we are.

• Sakura - Nike, Goddess of Victory
• Hinata - Hestia, Goddess of Hearth and Home
• Ino - Psyche, Goddess of the Soul
• Tenten - Themis, Goddess of Law & Order
• Temari - Aura, Goddess of the Breeze
• Tsunade - Athena, Goddess of Wisdom & War
• Mei - Aphrodite, Goddess of Love & Beauty
• Kurenai - Eileithyia, Goddess of Childbirth
• Shizune - Hygieia, Goddess of Health & Cleanliness
• Anko - Artemis, Goddess of the Hunt
• Karin - Até, Goddess of Mischief & Delusion
• Karura - Soteria, Goddess of Safety & Deliverance
• Rin - Astraea, Goddess of Innocence
• Chiyo - Metis, Goddess of Counsel & Cunning
• Kurotsuchi - Cybele, Goddess of Caverns & Mountains
• Konan - Iris, Goddess of the Rainbow & Messenger of the Gods
• Kushina - Mnemosyne, Goddess of Memory
• Kaguya - Gaia, Mother Goddess of the Earth

 

[AoMythology]

Kushina and Kaguya are more compatible with Shinto mythological characters (Kushinada-hime and Kaguya-hime).

 

[ankokudaishogun]

Hinata is, if anything, Vesta.

 

[Knyght]

Vesta's Roman. So Hinata would be Hestia.

Kushina and Kaguya are more compatible with Shinto mythological characters (Kushinada-hime and Kaguya-hime).

Kaguya literally is Kaguya-hime so yeah. But Kushina just happens to have part of Kushinada-hime's name is all.

 

[ankokudaishogun]

Vesta's Roman. So Hinata would be Hestia.

Yeah I often default to their roman names by habit(yes, I know they aren't complete equivalents)

 

[Knyght]

Fair dues. If nothing else, Tempestas certainly sounds a lot more badass than Aura for Temari.

Sarada - Bia, Goddess of Force & Power
Chocho - Demeter, Goddess of the Harvest

 

[Knyght]

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Kiba's jutsu are generally known as Imitation Beast Ninja Art. I'm wondering if that's a naming scheme that would apply to hiden ninjutsu in general.

So we'd have stuff like Shadow Animation Ninja Art, Mind Infiltration Ninja Art, Calorie Control Ninja Art and Destruction Insect Ninja Art to describe their jutsu styles rather than specific jutsu.

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Wrong hand-seal. We see him trying to switch to the correct hand-seal here which is how Kiba intervened but it was just forgotten about immediately afterwards.

This is actually the first time Naruto uses the Shadow Clone Jutsu in the entire fight (and takes unusually long at that despite having no problems before). Perhaps if he'd spent less time talking smack...

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I've never understood this trap. Does he have a fake Akamaru doll in his pouch for this exact purpose? Is it a type of Transformation Jutsu used to disguise the kunai and explosive tags?

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And by long time, she apparently means a few hours. :crazy: