No, I'm talking about <a href='http://forums.darksidemoon.net/index.php' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Dark Side Of The Moon</a>. I was suggesting it because he got banned from SB for NSFW content in his Quest Thread, and given how racy some of the fanfics (re)posted there are, I doubt that it'd be a problem.
SB banned me; I'm looking for a new forum...
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Far too many sub forums on that forum, considering there are like 65 members, there are nearly that many sub forums...
Also, Gundam being one of the three large fic sections? Really?
If I ever move to another forum, Its going to be one like TBL or Spacebattles, where you just have one or two writing sections, and then one or two BROB sections.
Overly specialising subforums is a sign of an over ambitious forum creator.
As is the other issue with that forum, where they have something like 3 admins and a couple of mods to police 65 users.
Also: The main admin is Mike/cherry lover, who is VERY opinionated and ships Sakura, I don't believe that having extremely biased admins is a good idea. ( I can easily see him banning people for writing fics where Sakura gets the short end of the stick) but admittedly I don't know him very well on a personal level.
On the other hand, the forum has no particular objection to lemon/weird content, which gives it a plus in my book. We'll see, I'd much rather if they consolidated some of the forums.
Also, Gundam being one of the three large fic sections? Really?
If I ever move to another forum, Its going to be one like TBL or Spacebattles, where you just have one or two writing sections, and then one or two BROB sections.
Overly specialising subforums is a sign of an over ambitious forum creator.
As is the other issue with that forum, where they have something like 3 admins and a couple of mods to police 65 users.
Also: The main admin is Mike/cherry lover, who is VERY opinionated and ships Sakura, I don't believe that having extremely biased admins is a good idea. ( I can easily see him banning people for writing fics where Sakura gets the short end of the stick) but admittedly I don't know him very well on a personal level.
On the other hand, the forum has no particular objection to lemon/weird content, which gives it a plus in my book. We'll see, I'd much rather if they consolidated some of the forums.
To be fair, they're just starting out, and given that it was the three of them that started it, it makes sense that they'd all be admins.
Apparently he hates the abuse of power with a passion, so he says that's not likely to happen. Given how Crying Vegeta has been behaving, and the fact he hasn't been banned yet, I'd have to say that your fears seem unfounded.
Apparently he hates the abuse of power with a passion, so he says that's not likely to happen. Given how Crying Vegeta has been behaving, and the fact he hasn't been banned yet, I'd have to say that your fears seem unfounded.
Just got tempbanned from SB.com, for the first time, ever. Can't even check my inbox to find out why.
Could someone who's registered there and not banned please PM a mod there, so I can find out whether I need to apologise, roll my eyes in exasperation, or appeal due to my account being hacked (I don't know that it was, but it's an potion that occurred to me while typing)?
Could someone who's registered there and not banned please PM a mod there, so I can find out whether I need to apologise, roll my eyes in exasperation, or appeal due to my account being hacked (I don't know that it was, but it's an potion that occurred to me while typing)?
Basically anything involving sex, especially with underage characters, is likely to get you a ban if it's noticed. With non-underage ones, you can still get some polite requests to stop before getting one though, that's part of why my first iteration of Mad World ended, mainly because I had two Mods ask nicely if I was sure that kind of thing was a good idea and getting somewhat uncomfortable with it myself
My opinion is that it's not ban worthy. More than enough to get a stern warning though. Frankly I'm kinda embarrassed about how the mods seem to be on a Ban first ask questions never. Frankly speaking I;m sure people would have much less problems with it if the mods showed a bit more restraint, and simply gave an ultimatum of editing/deleting the creepy post or taking the temp. ban. Cause I'm sure most who make creepy posts either didn't have anything creepy in mind and it just came out wrong or simply misjudged what was allowed before the mods came a knocking.
I for one would have gladly edited my post if one had simply told me before banning me. Hell, I would have done so if one of the guys simply told me he was going to report it prior to actually doing so.
Just straight up banning doesn't fix the problem, it just eliminates the source. It's like killing the Kaiju, sure it gets rid of it but it doesn't do shit for the havoc already done. If they want it to remain PG than they need to at least allow the person who's made the offense to get rid of the post so it doesn't shut down a whole thread.
I for one would have gladly edited my post if one had simply told me before banning me. Hell, I would have done so if one of the guys simply told me he was going to report it prior to actually doing so.
Just straight up banning doesn't fix the problem, it just eliminates the source. It's like killing the Kaiju, sure it gets rid of it but it doesn't do shit for the havoc already done. If they want it to remain PG than they need to at least allow the person who's made the offense to get rid of the post so it doesn't shut down a whole thread.
The only reason you should be complaining is if the ban was unfair. Considering you all could have easily avoided your bans if you had bothered to actually take five minutes out of your life and read the rules this wouldn't be an issue at all. Ask yourself: if this were a public place where everyone could see and hear you, would you act the same?
Logical fallacy: false comparison.
It's because it's a semi-anonymous Internet forum that I feel the desire to indulge in "speaking about inappropriate things" with other interested parties. I watch my mouth in public and in front of my peers to avoid trouble, internet forums are where I go to escape that constraint.
Well, let me put it this way: my behavior reflects my preferences.
My post count on the moderated Space Battles forum?
31 (at time of writing)
My post count on the unmoderated TFF?
5011 (at time of writing)
I mean, okay, yeah, the SB community can choose to be PG-13, or SFW, or whatever, that's... I'd prefer if it was a moral free-for-all, but I'm not the King of Space, so my preferences aren't high-priority.
What bugs me is this sneering, condescending behavior towards "being a creeper", where people are castigated and shamed for offending the sensibilities of the mod team... but the mod team won't remove the blanket "don't be a creeper" exemption when everything it's purported to cover was already against the rules. So it's fixing what wasn't broken, by adding another, less distinct rule, that the mod team can use to hammer anyone who offends them.
If they want to prohibit certain speech because they want the board to be work-safe, that's fine, that's totally reasonable, I appreciate that. If they want to prohibit speech that deflects ad-dollars that support the server, that's annoying, but so is paying for a train ticket; I recognize the necessity and blame no-one, I appreciate it.
But I don't appreciate the mods using the rules to revel in feelings of moral superiority towards internet strangers. Even if he was in the wrong, I don't like seeing my friend get sneered at.
It's because it's a semi-anonymous Internet forum that I feel the desire to indulge in "speaking about inappropriate things" with other interested parties. I watch my mouth in public and in front of my peers to avoid trouble, internet forums are where I go to escape that constraint.
Well, let me put it this way: my behavior reflects my preferences.
My post count on the moderated Space Battles forum?
31 (at time of writing)
My post count on the unmoderated TFF?
5011 (at time of writing)
I mean, okay, yeah, the SB community can choose to be PG-13, or SFW, or whatever, that's... I'd prefer if it was a moral free-for-all, but I'm not the King of Space, so my preferences aren't high-priority.
What bugs me is this sneering, condescending behavior towards "being a creeper", where people are castigated and shamed for offending the sensibilities of the mod team... but the mod team won't remove the blanket "don't be a creeper" exemption when everything it's purported to cover was already against the rules. So it's fixing what wasn't broken, by adding another, less distinct rule, that the mod team can use to hammer anyone who offends them.
If they want to prohibit certain speech because they want the board to be work-safe, that's fine, that's totally reasonable, I appreciate that. If they want to prohibit speech that deflects ad-dollars that support the server, that's annoying, but so is paying for a train ticket; I recognize the necessity and blame no-one, I appreciate it.
But I don't appreciate the mods using the rules to revel in feelings of moral superiority towards internet strangers. Even if he was in the wrong, I don't like seeing my friend get sneered at.
I did, it just that the rules are horrible vague and open to what the mod feels it encompasses. At the time I had no idea that what I wrote would be ban worthy, sure it was creepy and a bit horrible but I had not actually written anything explicit as it was merely a verbal threat that I had later written as being a complete bluff. In fact I have seen much worse on the forum that didn't get reported.
And yes, If i had written that story under my own name for public distribution than I still would have included such a threat. Because it's my fucking story and I felt that's what I felt should happen.
And yes, If i had written that story under my own name for public distribution than I still would have included such a threat. Because it's my fucking story and I felt that's what I felt should happen.
Actual literature have much worse content. Actual award winning literature have much worse content.
Anyways that's just what SB doesn't want, which as a private forum (?) they're entirely entitled to. Only real problem I have with them is that they're douches about it.
American (?) yo. Sex creeper, violence yay.
Anyways that's just what SB doesn't want, which as a private forum (?) they're entirely entitled to. Only real problem I have with them is that they're douches about it.
American (?) yo. Sex creeper, violence yay.
Seeing the idea in full (or mostly in full) makes me wonder why would the mods presumed to be about kinky sex bondage. Taken out of context, yeah, I can see it being some skeezy porn story that can get them in trouble, but in full, I'm more thinking Unleashed with Jet Lee than underage Gorean study.
Of course, to be fair, we are all kind of twisted little fucks to some degree, so our ideas of acceptable normalcy might be a bit skewed.
Of course, to be fair, we are all kind of twisted little fucks to some degree, so our ideas of acceptable normalcy might be a bit skewed.
@daniel_gudman: Thank you for checking, anyway.
Yeah, that was the only thing I could think of that might have caused a ban (that I'd actually done, anyway), and it only occurred to me in hindsight, wondering why I got banned. The whole point of posting it to SB.com (and I think I might have said that, in a later post) was to get a non-sexual PoV on it!
On another note, aren't we supposed to get a warning for the first offense? I don't recall ever getting one for previous posts, though if it's been long enough, I could have forgotten it. Also, how does one go about appealing a ban, if the banning process prevents one from starting a conversation (when I went to SB.com, I saw that there was a message in my Inbox, but naturally couldn't get to it; might have been about the ban, but who knows)? Anyone want to risk asking about those points, or do you think questioning a mod like that will be a bannable offense?
Unrelated to the above, Mercsenary mentioned that XenForo thinks my last post was November 2012. Does it still think that, and if so, can someone please go look for a thread called Five Earths, All in a Row, in the main Space Battles forum? I posted that in mid-December 2012, so if it's still there, someone should let them know that XenForo is having weird problems that they may want to fix (yes, I'm still trying to help them; I'm annoyed at/disappointed in a mod, possibly more than one, not the whole community).
Off topic, but since I've mentioned it, the biggest reason I haven't posted Five Earths to this forum, is that I'm not sure where to put it, nor if there'd be much interest, here.
Yeah, that was the only thing I could think of that might have caused a ban (that I'd actually done, anyway), and it only occurred to me in hindsight, wondering why I got banned. The whole point of posting it to SB.com (and I think I might have said that, in a later post) was to get a non-sexual PoV on it!
On another note, aren't we supposed to get a warning for the first offense? I don't recall ever getting one for previous posts, though if it's been long enough, I could have forgotten it. Also, how does one go about appealing a ban, if the banning process prevents one from starting a conversation (when I went to SB.com, I saw that there was a message in my Inbox, but naturally couldn't get to it; might have been about the ban, but who knows)? Anyone want to risk asking about those points, or do you think questioning a mod like that will be a bannable offense?
Unrelated to the above, Mercsenary mentioned that XenForo thinks my last post was November 2012. Does it still think that, and if so, can someone please go look for a thread called Five Earths, All in a Row, in the main Space Battles forum? I posted that in mid-December 2012, so if it's still there, someone should let them know that XenForo is having weird problems that they may want to fix (yes, I'm still trying to help them; I'm annoyed at/disappointed in a mod, possibly more than one, not the whole community).
Off topic, but since I've mentioned it, the biggest reason I haven't posted Five Earths to this forum, is that I'm not sure where to put it, nor if there'd be much interest, here.