SB banned me; I'm looking for a new forum...

Well, there are at least 5 more mods, Isil'Zha, A Jurian Knight, EarthScorpion and two others who's names I can't remember. And more are expected according to TO.

Edit: Apocal is another.
 

blabla1994

Well-Known Member
So, Athene was de-modded. I can't say I'm all that surprised - or disappointed, honestly. There's only so many times you can make jokes about using moderator powers in morality discussions, which Athene was always in involved in to some extent, before something has to be done. Her status as a super-moderator often wound up inadvertently shutting down discussion, because who wants to disagree with a mod?

That said, there are several mods who have that problem, just multiplied several times. Notably, HBMC, who goes beyond just joking about it. And I would have much sooner rather seen him gone.
 

WizardOne

Well-Known Member
blabla1994 said:
So, Athene was de-modded. I can't say I'm all that surprised - or disappointed, honestly. There's only so many times you can make jokes about using moderator powers in morality discussions, which Athene was always in involved in to some extent, before something has to be done. Her status as a super-moderator often wound up inadvertently shutting down discussion, because who wants to disagree with a mod?

That said, there are several mods who have that problem, just multiplied several times. Notably, HBMC, who goes beyond just joking about it. And I would have much sooner rather seen him gone.
HMBC is definitely an offender. SuperS4 is another one.

SB mods really need a pruning.
 

blabla1994

Well-Known Member
Reading over the thread, it kind of reinforces a suspicion I've been growing for a long time. Namely: The 'like' feature has been a serious detriment to SB. It encourages a behavior were you make grandiose statements repeating what others have already said, in order to gain likes from them. Resulting in people being unwilling to actually address the points brought up.
 

TC_Hazard

Well-Known Member
blabla1994 said:
Reading over the thread, it kind of reinforces a suspicion I've been growing for a long time. Namely: The 'like' feature has been a serious detriment to SB. It encourages a behavior were you make grandiose statements repeating what others have already said, in order to gain likes from them. Resulting in people being unwilling to actually address the points brought up.
Popularity is evil.
 

Prince Charon

Well-Known Member
What gets me is the painfully clumsy and stupid and assholish way that they did it, which was practically guaranteed to cause exactly the shitstorm that it did, that they were supposedly trying to avoid. Stay classy, guys.
 

buytbuyt

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blabla1994 said:
Reading over the thread, it kind of reinforces a suspicion I've been growing for a long time. Namely: The 'like' feature has been a serious detriment to SB. It encourages a behavior were you make grandiose statements repeating what others have already said, in order to gain likes from them. Resulting in people being unwilling to actually address the points brought up.
It has it's uses.
 

Stormfury

Well-Known Member
Am I the only person who only ever looks at the creative writing subforum, so I have no idea what anyone is talking about in this thread?
 

ragnarok1337

Well-Known Member
I mostly stick to CrW, so most of the discussion is lost on me. I've never run into Athene before. I know some SB mods are dumbshits, but I can't say anything about her.
 

blabla1994

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The Admins lost confidence in a popular mod, de-modded her in an asutoundingly incompetent manner that left pretty much everyone angry.

Eventually, another Admin showed up and explained what happened. Along with offering a slight apology for the poor way it was handled.

I stopped really caring at that point. (At least, until an entirely separate topic came up, but that's only relevant to people on SB really and).
 
Here you go, get to reading.

http://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/athene-retiring.295647/
http://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/is-this-supposed-to-be-a-defence-reaperman.295763/
http://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/how-do-you-solve-a-problem-like-athene.296053/
 

Cynical Kyle

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blabla1994 said:
The Admins lost confidence in a popular mod, de-modded her in an asutoundingly incompetent manner that left pretty much everyone angry.

Eventually, another Admin showed up and explained what happened. Along with offering a slight apology for the poor way it was handled.

I stopped really caring at that point. (At least, until an entirely separate topic came up, but that's only relevant to people on SB really and).
This clusterfuck has to be the most entertaining thing coming out of SB for months. Yet more proof regarding incompetence of their administration, butthurt Athene groupies nerdraging and mods actually doing their jobs relatively well for once in handling that mess.
 

WizardOne

Well-Known Member
Cynical Kyle said:
blabla1994 said:
The Admins lost confidence in a popular mod, de-modded her in an asutoundingly incompetent manner that left pretty much everyone angry.

Eventually, another Admin showed up and explained what happened. Along with offering a slight apology for the poor way it was handled.

I stopped really caring at that point. (At least, until an entirely separate topic came up, but that's only relevant to people on SB really and).
This clusterfuck has to be the most entertaining thing coming out of SB for months. Yet more proof regarding incompetence of their administration, butthurt Athene groupies nerdraging and mods actually doing their jobs relatively well for once in handling that mess.
Its entertaining in that holy shit people are blowing it out of proportion. I mean seriously, a mod got demoted abruptly and suddenly ITS THE END OF THE WORLD.

Every second person has 'ATHENE WAS ABUSED' Signatures linking to the news threads and they've made a new forum to escape the 'oppressors'. Who are oppressing exactly 0% more than they always have. Its not like Athene was paid. It was a voluntary position, and their fellow mods thought she was doing it wrong.
 

TC_Hazard

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NuitTombee said:
Here you go, get to reading.

http://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/athene-retiring.295647/
http://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/is-this-supposed-to-be-a-defence-reaperman.295763/
http://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/how-do-you-solve-a-problem-like-athene.296053/
So, having just read the first page of every link... that was a really stupid way of handling things.
 

Cynical Kyle

Well-Known Member
WizardOne said:
Cynical Kyle said:
blabla1994 said:
The Admins lost confidence in a popular mod, de-modded her in an asutoundingly incompetent manner that left pretty much everyone angry.

Eventually, another Admin showed up and explained what happened. Along with offering a slight apology for the poor way it was handled.

I stopped really caring at that point. (At least, until an entirely separate topic came up, but that's only relevant to people on SB really and).
This clusterfuck has to be the most entertaining thing coming out of SB for months. Yet more proof regarding incompetence of their administration, butthurt Athene groupies nerdraging and mods actually doing their jobs relatively well for once in handling that mess.
Its entertaining in that holy shit people are blowing it out of proportion. I mean seriously, a mod got demoted abruptly and suddenly ITS THE END OF THE WORLD.

Every second person has 'ATHENE WAS ABUSED' Signatures linking to the news threads and they've made a new forum to escape the 'oppressors'. Who are oppressing exactly 0% more than they always have. Its not like Athene was paid. It was a voluntary position, and their fellow mods thought she was doing it wrong.
That's precisely what makes it so hilarious. Instances like this handily prove how skin deep the supposed intellectual superiority most SB'ers claim is. Instead of trying to sort it out rationally, vast majority immediately descended into mob rule & blowing things out of proportions while shushing other viewpoints. Given how SB mods tends to act in general, I'm fairly sure that there is at least some truth in the claims about Athene stiffling opposing views regarding topics she feels very strongly about. If this mess escalates further into splitting SB in two, good riddance.
 

Dartz_IRL

Well-Known Member
It doesn't have the rush of BROB-tards and constant crashes.

That's the one thing the new forum has going for it.
 
WizardOne said:
Cynical Kyle said:
blabla1994 said:
The Admins lost confidence in a popular mod, de-modded her in an asutoundingly incompetent manner that left pretty much everyone angry.

Eventually, another Admin showed up and explained what happened. Along with offering a slight apology for the poor way it was handled.

I stopped really caring at that point. (At least, until an entirely separate topic came up, but that's only relevant to people on SB really and).
This clusterfuck has to be the most entertaining thing coming out of SB for months. Yet more proof regarding incompetence of their administration, butthurt Athene groupies nerdraging and mods actually doing their jobs relatively well for once in handling that mess.
Its entertaining in that holy shit people are blowing it out of proportion. I mean seriously, a mod got demoted abruptly and suddenly ITS THE END OF THE WORLD.

Every second person has 'ATHENE WAS ABUSED' Signatures linking to the news threads and they've made a new forum to escape the 'oppressors'. Who are oppressing exactly 0% more than they always have. Its not like Athene was paid. It was a voluntary position, and their fellow mods thought she was doing it wrong.
 
ragnarok1337 said:
I took a look at the new board out of curiosity. It's already down.
SV has been up everytime I've been on it in the last four days.

http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com
 

TC_Hazard

Well-Known Member
NuitTombee said:
ragnarok1337 said:
I took a look at the new board out of curiosity. It's already down.
SV has been up everytime I've been on it in the last four days.

http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com
So that's like 300 members in a few days?

Huh. Impressive. In a way.

Edit: and I was reading wrong. There are over a thousand members going by the forum statistics.
 

grant

Well-Known Member
Re. Athene. I think the general reaction might be a bit more muted, or at least it's limited. As for the mods, ambivalent. I've seen one that argued that Saddam's Iraq was progressive (no, even for the Middle East it was not) and was pissed off at me for daring to talk to them in a private conversation, and I've seen others that correctly pointed out I was being a jerk.

Still, always nice to at least look at other forums if I ever need a break from one.
 

Valint

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My guess would be that overwhelming majority of people signing up at SV aren't so much leaving SB as just making sure they aren't missing any conversation/stories.

Personally, I'm primarily at SB for the fanfic. If an author I'm interested in announces that he's moving to SV and never posting again to SB, I'd add that to my list of sites to care about; otherwise, not going to bother (and, to be honest, since splitting content between two sites doesn't add any real value, I'm kind of hoping this doesn't happen).

If it stays at "people who are butthurt at SB" level, it's unlikely to have much staying power. A particular problem with that theme is that it will attract people who were banned from SB for good reason, which means you could easily end up with a forum badly in need of immediate heavy-handed administration but whose raison d'etre is a protest of heavy-handed administration.

If you're the sort of person who cares about this kerfluffle, then odds are you really care about it, which would distort a bit your perception of the situation. I'm going to guess that, for most members, the response is "Who? What?"

Personally, I'll just be glad when this blows over and I don't have to see those oversized signatures that everyone who cares about this seems to think are needed. If I don't care that "Athene didn't resign!", I'm not going to care about it any more when it's in a 24-point font.
 
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