Nasuverse Schweinorg Shirou

[Voivod]

So Taiga isn't his teacher? who does she teach anyways?

homeroom and English. she'd probabally still be his teacher just they wouldn't have an further connection like they do in the game/anime

 

[shout27]

does she know sakura? c'mon throw me a bone here.

 

[Fatuous One]

Lemme break it down for you.

Kiritsugu knew Taiga.

Shirou knew Taiga from Kiritsugu (and Sakura from Shinji, whom he became friends with in middle school).

Sakura knew Taiga from Shirou.

Taiga just also happens to be their high school teacher. But if Kiritsgu is removed from the equation, then neither Shirou nor Sakura would know Taiga. Hence, Taiga would only be a schoolteacher to them.

EDIT:

I think the best shot of Rin worrying about Sakura thing working is one of them being a Naive version of Rin who's father never died or just had a happier more care free childhood and was never seperated from Sakura. She would be likely wonder what has happened to her little sister and try to establish a connection with this Sakura and find out whats wrong.

Uhm... If Rin's father didn't die, Sakura STILL would have gone to the Matous: he's the one who gave her to them.

Even barring that fact, the Rin raised by Tokiomi would be an unbelievable jack-ass, if any of her father's attitude rubbed off (think of it this way, he summoned Gilgamesh).

 

[shout27]

so Shirou has the same class as Shinji but not Sakura, right?

edit: if they get stuck together with a project from school it'd be minor if believeable DEM. Time can also pass for a while before the Grail War starts up leaving the author with enough time to pursue this angle, right?

 

[Fatuous One]

so Shirou has the same class as Shinji but not Sakura, right?

Yes and no.

(and Sakura from Shinji, whom he became friends with in middle school).

edit: if they get stuck together with a project from school it'd be minor if believeable DEM.time can also pass for a while before the Grail War starts up leaving the author with enough time to pursue this angle, right?

Doubtful. Since Sakura is younger than Shirou, and I'm fairly sure that he isn't in the same class as Shinji.

 

[shout27]

Foiled again, anyways it's not like he can't be placed in Shinji's class since he's been World-Hopping.

 

[Fatuous One]

So... He gets placed in Shinji's class... and there's ALSO a school project that he just conveniently gets partnered with Shinji, and this of course leads him to discovering that Sakura is being abused.




That's... a little bit too much of a stretch, in my opinion.

 

[shout27]

When spoken like that :sweat: i can't really argue. at least it's a start and can be turned into something more plausible.

edit: to be fair since i'm only familiar with the anime i had no idea about the abusement bit.

the only truly plausible thing i see happening is Shirou got said project with Shinji just to introduce him and Sakura and thats the extent of it until the Grail War pops up, cue Sakura taking the place of one of the Rins with said Rin wanting to know how the heck it happened.

 

[Voivod]

I think the best shot of Rin worrying about Sakura thing working is one of them being a Naive version of Rin who's father never died or just had a happier more care free childhood and was never seperated from Sakura. She would be likely wonder what has happened to her little sister and try to establish a connection with this Sakura and find out whats wrong.

Uhm... If Rin's father didn't die, Sakura STILL would have gone to the Matous: he's the one who gave her to them.

Even barring that fact, the Rin raised by Tokiomi would be an unbelievable jack-ass, if any of her father's attitude rubbed off (think of it this way, he summoned Gilgamesh).

notice I put the all mighty OR clause in there Also I didn't explain this so its my fault but it would be more mellowed out Tokiomi, because it's an alternate reality so almost anything is possible. he could've summoned the lazy Uchiha instead or something his it was happy reality for her and Sakura ofcourse the main flaw I found with this is why Rin would leave this reality.

...Other than for hot Shirou smex

 

[Mereo Flere]

We're having a serious discussion over the details of a crackfic.

It makes me laugh and cry and tired all at the same time.

 

[Fatuous One]

When spoken like that :sweat: i can't really argue. at least it's a start and can be turned into something more plausible.

Well, if Shirou got shoved into Shinji's class and became his friend (doubtful, I don't think a Shirou raised by Zelretch would get along with Shinji, who was a giant ass-wart in highschool), he could, conceivably, then become friends with Sakura through that. Unfortunately, I think it would be sort of a case of 'too little, too late'. Sakura would likely be a lot less... social, especially to someone that was Shinji's friend.

notice I put the all mighty OR clause in there Also I didn't explain this so its my fault but it would be more mellowed out Tokiomi, because it's an alternate reality so almost anything is possible. he could've summoned the lazy Uchiha instead or something tongue.gif his it was happy reality for her and Sakura

But that presents another problem. Why would Rin try to establish a connection with Sakura, when the most obvious problem appears to be that she was abandoned?

"Yeah, Sakura's different from your Sakura. Not too surprising, considering we put her in a cardboard box and left her out for adoption."

If anything, I think that Rin would feel less inclined to be around Sakura, since she has even LESS of connection to her than the other Rin's.

*shrug* That's my thoughts on that particular train anyway.

We're having a serious discussion over the details of a crackfic.

It makes me laugh and cry and tired all at the same time.

CRACK. SERIOUS BUSINESS.

 

[shout27]

it's curiousity for me as i can't find much on what exactly Shirou is capable of without Kiritsugu's influence being a factor. I've found out more in this thread than i could find at Fuyuki's for some reason.

edit: I've also learnt more about Shinji that i should've known, my one true question is 'how the hell a prick like him became friends with Shirou in the first place?'

also expanded a bit on my previous post if you missed it.



That's the beauty of a school project chances are that the guys who dislike each other will be stuck together first. :evil: something like that could open up more options for Sakura later on.

 

[ttestagr]

Here is an idea: travelling through the unlimited parallel worlds, they came upon a Rin who was born as the younger sister and had suffered as Sakura had. From then on, they made it a policy to wipe out the male Matou's everywhere they visited.

 

[Shikaze]

That... could oddly work, especially if after they encounter a Rin like that, they try to get information on the Matou family, and saw that nearly everywhere in the multiverse, they're abusive assholes to the child who was sent to them.

Ad I so can see Shirou and the Rins (the new band around here :snigger: ) dogpiling Shinji once they're sure is the same as the usual Matou they encountered.

 

[Fatuous One]

Here is an idea: travelling through the unlimited parallel worlds, they came upon a Rin who was born as the younger sister and had suffered as Sakura had. From then on, they made it a policy to wipe out the male Matou's everywhere they visited.

That works, although I hesitate at that last bit. Who's to say that they wouldn't run into some actually decent Matou's? Having a 'policy' to wipe out them whenever they encounter them seems stupidly rabid.

Then again, this is crack, so it could be made into a running gag with them kicking Shinji in the balls whenever they meet. ^^;;

 

[shout27]

guess all my ideas are going to be second-rate for a while.

anyways, what the heck is 'Denial of Nothingness' or is it one of those that hasn't been explained yet.

I personnally would find it funny if at the end of the fic, due to a miswording the wish leaves the Female Servants who also decide to get together with Shirou. After all he's going to have all those Rin's after him might as well have some variety.

 

[Voivod]

Here is an idea: travelling through the unlimited parallel worlds, they came upon a Rin who was born as the younger sister and had suffered as Sakura had.? From then on, they made it a policy to wipe out the male Matou's everywhere they visited.

wow, I like that idea. Ofcourse like F1 said there can be decent Matou males, case in point Kariya. But Zoken's allways going to be an evil SOB even if Shinji is decent in some realities.

Wow, a somewhat serious idea of Shirou being raised by Zelrecht has descended into crackland, not that I'm compaining but this is good sweet crack.

"Go forth! Growl at everything that comes close to you, Berserker! Like this, GRRR!"

.......

BTW does anyone know where I could find a complete translated game script for FSN?

 

[ttestagr]

BTW does anyone know where I could find a complete translated game script for FSN?

Doesn't exist. Translations are still underway. You can find up to Day 12 of the Fate scenario up at the Beast's Lair in the walkthrough section: http://nrvnqsr.proboards20.com/index.cgi?board=walk

 

[Mereo Flere]

Then again, this is crack, so it could be made into a running gag with them kicking Shinji in the balls whenever they meet. ^^;;

...

I'm suddenly thinking of a Shinji that was actually nice coming along as Shirou's best friend.

And then have himself kick him in the balls.

 

[Voivod]

BTW does anyone know where I could find a complete translated game script for FSN?

Doesn't exist. Translations are still underway. You can find up to Day 12 of the Fate scenario up at the Beast's Lair in the walkthrough section: http://nrvnqsr.proboards20.com/index.cgi?board=walk

damn, I know the game hasn't been translated, though the Fate Scenario's in beta stage but I was hoping for a full script so I could read along since my Japanese isn't quite up to par

 

[Fatuous One]

anyways, what the heck is 'Denial of Nothingness' or is it one of those that hasn't been explained yet.

Denial of Nothingness

It's confusing no matter how you look at it, just take it at face value and leave it.

damn, I know the game hasn't been translated, though the Fate Scenario's in beta stage but I was hoping for a full script so I could read along since my Japanese isn't quite up to par

Mirrormoon apparently has a policy not to release such thing ahead a time. Ttestagr's link is the best you're going to get currently.