Moved from Random Ideas. The basic idea is that Shiro somehow ends up in the Claymore world.
Issues do deal with:
-how he gets there: Probably Kaleidoscope accident, or twisted Grail wish. Not too important, but I'd rather make it plausible.
-When he gets there: Theresa, Claire, or Clarissa era. Probably one of the first two, since it allows him
-Balancing: In Random, we discovered that Noble Phantasms are pretty game breaking, especially since Claymore doesn't really have much magic.
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Issues do deal with:
-how he gets there: Probably Kaleidoscope accident, or twisted Grail wish. Not too important, but I'd rather make it plausible.
-When he gets there: Theresa, Claire, or Clarissa era. Probably one of the first two, since it allows him
-Balancing: In Random, we discovered that Noble Phantasms are pretty game breaking, especially since Claymore doesn't really have much magic.
Related posts:
Post Grail War, Shiro ends up in the Claymore world some how.
Claymore would be interesting, with Shirou being close to normal physically, at least compared to the Claymores, but with an arsenal of Noble Phantasms that match up to their swords. More so still if something happens like he found the original Kanshou and Bakuya, and uses them with their anti-monster properties to take down an Awakened Being or even one of the Abyssals. If he's gotten to the point where his hair and eyes have changed color like Archer, he might be able to pass himself of as one. And in response to rumors of a male Claymore walking around, killing the shit out of any yoma and Awakened Being he comes across, the organization sends out someone to investigate. Really, what all happens would depend largely on when in Claymore-verse he shows up: Teresa's time, Clare's, or Clarisse's.
I'm starting to warm up to the claymore cross now... Shiro has a couple of different paths he could take.
he could be the lone warrior, he could form his own version of the organization, he could team up with the claymores. The possibilities are endless, and that's not even factoring in what era that he appears in.
Hm... using Holy and Demonic weapons could have some interesting effects on how peopel percieve him, especially the organization. Using Gae Bolg or Gram might cause them to see him as an awakened being, while using Excalibur or some other holy weapon... Hm..
he could be the lone warrior, he could form his own version of the organization, he could team up with the claymores. The possibilities are endless, and that's not even factoring in what era that he appears in.
Hm... using Holy and Demonic weapons could have some interesting effects on how peopel percieve him, especially the organization. Using Gae Bolg or Gram might cause them to see him as an awakened being, while using Excalibur or some other holy weapon... Hm..
Not necessarily. After all, the entire male generation of Claymores awakened. I don't think it's that implausible to say that in the midst of the awakenings, they were probably trying to rush and fill the missing slots, and there's probably not information on them all. If it's during Clarice's period, easy theory for the organization to come up with: during the chaos of the male awakenings, he went through, not standing out, as one of many replacements, then disappeared, was presumed dead or awakened, and largely ignored because he wasn't a big deal like Isley, Rigald, or Dauf, then resurfaced with the deaths of the Abyssals.
And if they saw how he did stuff, sure, they might not make that mistake, but just to see the destruction left by some Noble Phantasms, without knowing the source? Or to see the effects he could achieve with a sword? With things like the Quick-Sword, it would make more sense to them to think it's some technique he's using, rather than think it's the weapons.
Too bad the actual swords are probably made with something not native to Gaia, and he doesn't have yoki to use things like the Quick-Sword. Although, come to think of it, to an observer, would the style Shirou picked up from Archer look like Teresa's yoki reading trick? Might be an interesting comparison for someone to make.
Two last points to bring up. Just to point out, the mysterious enemy nation uses dragons. Gram is an anti-dragon weapon. And, as a perspective issue, how would Shirou react to some of the ethical issues that crop up? Like how the Claymores are forbidden to kill humans, even in self-defense, or the idea that always gets brought up in fics involving Awakened Beings: one that lives off bandits, and other people that it's not implausible that Shirou himself would kill to save people. Said theoretical AB is eating humans, but they're bad humans, and if it doesn't eat them, it starves. I admit, I bring up the idea largely because I adore Priscilla and Luciella, and, to a much lesser extent, Riful and Isley.
And if they saw how he did stuff, sure, they might not make that mistake, but just to see the destruction left by some Noble Phantasms, without knowing the source? Or to see the effects he could achieve with a sword? With things like the Quick-Sword, it would make more sense to them to think it's some technique he's using, rather than think it's the weapons.
Too bad the actual swords are probably made with something not native to Gaia, and he doesn't have yoki to use things like the Quick-Sword. Although, come to think of it, to an observer, would the style Shirou picked up from Archer look like Teresa's yoki reading trick? Might be an interesting comparison for someone to make.
Two last points to bring up. Just to point out, the mysterious enemy nation uses dragons. Gram is an anti-dragon weapon. And, as a perspective issue, how would Shirou react to some of the ethical issues that crop up? Like how the Claymores are forbidden to kill humans, even in self-defense, or the idea that always gets brought up in fics involving Awakened Beings: one that lives off bandits, and other people that it's not implausible that Shirou himself would kill to save people. Said theoretical AB is eating humans, but they're bad humans, and if it doesn't eat them, it starves. I admit, I bring up the idea largely because I adore Priscilla and Luciella, and, to a much lesser extent, Riful and Isley.
Another thought for Claymore: One of the Swords Shiro gets is Durandal, which can grant three miracles.
Restoring an Awakened being to their Claymore, or even Human form would be pretty miraculous, wouldn't you say?
Edit: As for the Claymore swords, I highly doubt that Shiro wouldn't be able to replicate them, from a plot point of view. Pretty much all Noble Phantasms are equally, if not more indestructable. The only real benefit to tracing Claymores would be to replicate the skills of their users, which again, has limited usefulness, since he has the weapons of actual legend, and can probably match or exceed most of the skills with them. They would probably be D-Rank Noble Phantasms at best, since their only real quality is incredible toughness.
Unnatural strength: Reinforcement. May not be able to match them when they start drawing heavily on their Yoma power, but enough for most cases, and his weaponry makes up the difference.
Quick Sword: Nine Lives Blade Works. Not only does it match the speed, but each blow is lethal.
Shadow Blade: Gae Bolg Autohit, and pierces the heart. Or NLBW.
Jean's super piercing attack: Any high ranked Noble Phantasm ought to do it. Again, NLBW.
Actually, Nine Lives blade works is probably enough to handle pretty much anything. I don't think I've seen a fic where Shiro goes around using that as his primary weapon. Only thing it might not bee effective against is high level Awakened beings or mass numbers.
Restoring an Awakened being to their Claymore, or even Human form would be pretty miraculous, wouldn't you say?
Edit: As for the Claymore swords, I highly doubt that Shiro wouldn't be able to replicate them, from a plot point of view. Pretty much all Noble Phantasms are equally, if not more indestructable. The only real benefit to tracing Claymores would be to replicate the skills of their users, which again, has limited usefulness, since he has the weapons of actual legend, and can probably match or exceed most of the skills with them. They would probably be D-Rank Noble Phantasms at best, since their only real quality is incredible toughness.
Unnatural strength: Reinforcement. May not be able to match them when they start drawing heavily on their Yoma power, but enough for most cases, and his weaponry makes up the difference.
Quick Sword: Nine Lives Blade Works. Not only does it match the speed, but each blow is lethal.
Shadow Blade: Gae Bolg Autohit, and pierces the heart. Or NLBW.
Jean's super piercing attack: Any high ranked Noble Phantasm ought to do it. Again, NLBW.
Actually, Nine Lives blade works is probably enough to handle pretty much anything. I don't think I've seen a fic where Shiro goes around using that as his primary weapon. Only thing it might not bee effective against is high level Awakened beings or mass numbers.
As far as using Nine Lives as his primary weapon, there is Faker. And, actually, I think it'd be great to see him use it against Dauf. Incredibly tough Awakened Being, virtually impossible to break through his skin...and then Shirou pulls out Berserker's giant ax-sword. One Nine-Lives Bladeworks later, and there is a very gruesome pile of gore where there was once a large monster. Also, Riful just shit herself.
Three miracles, huh...three Abyssals? But, then, if they wanted to, they could just awaken again. Or go with the idea that Luciella wants her sister back, return Luci, and see where things go. Plus, a lot of Priscilla's issues came about because of her awakening. In fact, wasn't that her reason for going after Clare? That Clare smelled like Teresa, and Priscilla hated Teresa because she (Teresa) scared her so much that she (Priscilla) awakened, and Priscilla actually hates what she's become? Or am I mixing up something else with canon?
With that, use one of Durandal's miracles on Luciella and one on Priscilla. Then, if you use the idea that Raphaela would go against the organization for her sister, Shirou gets a former number one and two former number twos, one of whom would have been a number one. I also favor Priscilla being childish and clinging to Shirou, since he saved her, and I find her acting that way to be adorable.
Plus, there has to be an archery competition between Shirou and Isley, because it would be cool.
Three miracles, huh...three Abyssals? But, then, if they wanted to, they could just awaken again. Or go with the idea that Luciella wants her sister back, return Luci, and see where things go. Plus, a lot of Priscilla's issues came about because of her awakening. In fact, wasn't that her reason for going after Clare? That Clare smelled like Teresa, and Priscilla hated Teresa because she (Teresa) scared her so much that she (Priscilla) awakened, and Priscilla actually hates what she's become? Or am I mixing up something else with canon?
With that, use one of Durandal's miracles on Luciella and one on Priscilla. Then, if you use the idea that Raphaela would go against the organization for her sister, Shirou gets a former number one and two former number twos, one of whom would have been a number one. I also favor Priscilla being childish and clinging to Shirou, since he saved her, and I find her acting that way to be adorable.
Plus, there has to be an archery competition between Shirou and Isley, because it would be cool.
Keep in mind he can retrace Durandal, which gives him a whole new set of miracles each time.
As for Shiro and Isley, i did write something up for that, though not an archery competition. That could be fun though, especially if Shiro accuses Isley of cheating but manipulating his arrows after shooting them.
As for Shiro and Isley, i did write something up for that, though not an archery competition. That could be fun though, especially if Shiro accuses Isley of cheating but manipulating his arrows after shooting them.
Another random thought: Claymores Awaken when they exceed the proportion of youki they can safely channel, right? So, obviously, the best way to stop a Claymore from Awakening is to increase the power of their human side. You know what that means?
Prana transfer rituals! tongue.gif
Prana transfer rituals! tongue.gif