SM in the Marvelverse

[ragnarok1337]

Just an idea I had: What if the Senshi were reincarnated into the Marvel Universe? Oh, the Moon Kingdom and Youma and all that stuff are/have still happening/happened, but what the hell kind of situation would the Senshi be in?

We have a few positive things going for it, and quite a few negative ones. First of all, most of the issues with everyone hating mutants and the "good guys", no matter how much they help is mostly in America. I don't think Marvel has ever discussed what the mutant issue would be like in Japan. Also, I don't quite think magic counts as a mutation, so the people wouldn't freak out as much about it.

Now, for the negatives. There's a lot of them. First of all, most threats, unless we get to the end of Mangaverse-SM are totally out of their league. Second, the Senshi are themselves going to be a bit wary of fighting evil. After all, they've seen how "heroes" are treated in the Marvelverse. They might refuse to fight.


How would this work out? Would some of the Senshi be mutants? Would Rei be communicating with one Susanoo like Spider Man communicates with Thor? Would they even want to fight if they would potentially be hated? Once their reputation gets big enough, what threats will be targeting them? Will the threat level scale sufficiently with the Marvelverse. After all, this is a Universe where a literal god is on the local team of heroes.






Discuss.

 

[Aarik]

Well, start of manga Usagi can JUMP INTO THE UPPER ATMOSPHERE, under her own power.

Pure physical strength there.

In super form she can punch giant future material castles into rubble while exhausted and barely able to stand.

In Eternal Form she's an aspect of God like the Living Tribunal, a less powerful aspect, but still, damn high up there.

So they'd be about mid tier at the start, and high-high-cosmic end tier at the end... Or Usagi will.

Sailor Saturn MIGHT be considered a super villain after she destroys the world that one time.

 

[Deleted member 5249]

In Marvelverse I doubt CT would happen (please don't bring up Great Freeze bullshit seriously. No one died in anime due to it. It doesn't exist mangaverse.) Usagi if she forms a kingdom she'd probably just move it back to the Moon and just offer citzenship to whoever wanted it.

The senshi make all the other planets in the solar system livable by existing.

Galactus would be a nightmare, Sailor crystals can bring the senshi and the planet back in the manga but only Usagi could bring back their populations. She can't even do that much until the end of the manga. Since before that they repeated she needed a body before she could revive them.

Considering what they fight they'd probably be running into Dr. Strange constantly.

 

[GenocideHeart]

In Marvelverse I doubt CT would happen (please don't bring up Great Freeze bullshit seriously. No one died in anime due to it. It doesn't exist mangaverse.) Usagi if she forms a kingdom she'd probably just move it back to the Moon and just offer citzenship to whoever wanted it.

The senshi make all the other planets in the solar system livable by existing.

Galactus would be a nightmare, Sailor crystals can bring the senshi and the planet back in the manga but only Usagi could bring back their populations. She can't even do that much until the end of the manga. Since before that they repeated she needed a body before she could revive them.

Considering what they fight they'd probably be running into Dr. Strange constantly.

The Moon is off limits since the Inhumans inhabit it, and they don't want any neighbors. The Watcher would also not be amused by people taking the satellite he's been living on since basically a few million years ago. He tolerates the Inhumans because they don't bother him, and he's an observer, but Uatu has proved a few times that he's willing to forcibly boot out people who trespass, and given how he's only slightly less powerful than Galactus, he's not someone you wanna piss off.

 

[Aarik]

In Marvelverse I doubt CT would happen (please don't bring up Great Freeze bullshit seriously. No one died in anime due to it. It doesn't exist mangaverse.) Usagi if she forms a kingdom she'd probably just move it back to the Moon and just offer citzenship to whoever wanted it.

The senshi make all the other planets in the solar system livable by existing.

Galactus would be a nightmare, Sailor crystals can bring the senshi and the planet back in the manga but only Usagi could bring back their populations. She can't even do that much until the end of the manga. Since before that they repeated she needed a body before she could revive them.

Considering what they fight they'd probably be running into Dr. Strange constantly.

The Moon is off limits since the Inhumans inhabit it, and they don't want any neighbors. The Watcher would also not be amused by people taking the satellite he's been living on since basically a few million years ago. He tolerates the Inhumans because they don't bother him, and he's an observer, but Uatu has proved a few times that he's willing to forcibly boot out people who trespass, and given how he's only slightly less powerful than Galactus, he's not someone you wanna piss off.

Technically, Mangaverse, Sailor Moon has had claim on the moon for....

How long has the Moon existed?

I think 3.5 Billion years, or 4.5, it was something .5 billion anyway.

Anyway, The Moon Kingdom was before the Earth as it is now evolved life, the life it had then was killed off by Mettalia's MIND RAPE AURA OF KILL EVERYONE AROUND YOU.

Well that and Sailor Saturn killing anyone that might have survived in the clean up afterwords, down to single celled organism's.

 

[Deleted member 5249]

You know how the moon is a barren wasteland at the moment. Usagi waking it up makes it all leafy and green. It'd be a vast improvement.

Besides if SM happened in Marvelverse, the Eternal Main computer/Castle ruins would still be there so the watcher and the inhumans really wouldn't be surprised by her existence. If anything Watcher would be expecting her to appear considering her mom's ghost is constantly talking about her. I doubt he'd consider her a trespasser.

Plus in the end who would not want a neighbour that can revive damn near anything.

 

[Aarik]

Hmmm...

In the Manga, I BELIEVE Hotaru was made fun of for her healing power...

On the other hand, she was also a Cyborg and possessed by a space demon who would occasionally take her over, so it's a bit of a cluster-fuck.

Rei was considered to have actual Psychic powers by shrine goers... I think, and they thought it was cool IIRC.

And, well, Japanese people LIKE stories and such about people with bullshit super powers.

Americans kind of hate them, we actually came up with terms to mock them actually, Mary Sue, Gary Stu, Munchkin...

 

[Deleted member 5249]

Yeah, that's pretty much what happened to Hotaru.

Souichi combined his genetic experiments/alien physiology and his knowledge of cybernetics to bring her back to life. Her healing power still existed.

Michiru and Rei did have pretty strong psychic powers. Michiru could predict the future and later got her deep aqua mirror to assist her premonitions.

Setsuna would fit right in marvelverse, she was retconned into the universe by NQS.

 

[ragnarok1337]

In Marvelverse I doubt CT would happen (please don't bring up Great Freeze bullshit seriously. No one died in anime due to it. It doesn't exist mangaverse.) Usagi if she forms a kingdom she'd probably just move it back to the Moon and just offer citzenship to whoever wanted it.

The senshi make all the other planets in the solar system livable by existing.

Galactus would be a nightmare, Sailor crystals can bring the senshi and the planet back in the manga but only Usagi could bring back their populations. She can't even do that much until the end of the manga. Since before that they repeated she needed a body before she could revive them.

Considering what they fight they'd probably be running into Dr. Strange constantly.

The Moon is off limits since the Inhumans inhabit it, and they don't want any neighbors. The Watcher would also not be amused by people taking the satellite he's been living on since basically a few million years ago. He tolerates the Inhumans because they don't bother him, and he's an observer, but Uatu has proved a few times that he's willing to forcibly boot out people who trespass, and given how he's only slightly less powerful than Galactus, he's not someone you wanna piss off.

Technically, Mangaverse, Sailor Moon has had claim on the moon for....

How long has the Moon existed?

I think 3.5 Billion years, or 4.5, it was something .5 billion anyway.

Anyway, The Moon Kingdom was before the Earth as it is now evolved life, the life it had then was killed off by Mettalia's MIND RAPE AURA OF KILL EVERYONE AROUND YOU.

Well that and Sailor Saturn killing anyone that might have survived in the clean up afterwords, down to single celled organism's.

But I thought in canon that the MK only existed 10,000 or less years ago? Certainly not millions. And I don't know much about the Inhumans, but how long were they there? If they took up refuge after the MK fell, then that wouldn't kill the SM timeline too bad.

And i would think that Usagi, while a total flake, would decide to leave the moon alone if she found out it was inhabited, however much Luna would protest. The Watcher...yeah, he has priority. But he might've been nice enough to let the Moon Kingdom capitol be there if they didn't bother him. Much like the Inhumans.

By the way...take three Youma hordes. Add Dr. Banner visiting a friendly scientist living in Tokyo. Mix well.

HULK SMASH!

 

[Deleted member 5249]

Moon Kingdom fell billions of Years ago. Queen Serenity's ghost still haunts the moon along with the remains of moon tech.

Besides if senshi exist in marvelverse, Watcher wouldn't really be surprised.
Since senshi do it all the time when they get their crystal they'd want to do their actual job and make it livable.

 

[GenocideHeart]

In Marvelverse I doubt CT would happen (please don't bring up Great Freeze bullshit seriously. No one died in anime due to it. It doesn't exist mangaverse.) Usagi if she forms a kingdom she'd probably just move it back to the Moon and just offer citzenship to whoever wanted it.

The senshi make all the other planets in the solar system livable by existing.

Galactus would be a nightmare, Sailor crystals can bring the senshi and the planet back in the manga but only Usagi could bring back their populations. She can't even do that much until the end of the manga. Since before that they repeated she needed a body before she could revive them.

Considering what they fight they'd probably be running into Dr. Strange constantly.

The Moon is off limits since the Inhumans inhabit it, and they don't want any neighbors. The Watcher would also not be amused by people taking the satellite he's been living on since basically a few million years ago. He tolerates the Inhumans because they don't bother him, and he's an observer, but Uatu has proved a few times that he's willing to forcibly boot out people who trespass, and given how he's only slightly less powerful than Galactus, he's not someone you wanna piss off.

Technically, Mangaverse, Sailor Moon has had claim on the moon for....

How long has the Moon existed?

I think 3.5 Billion years, or 4.5, it was something .5 billion anyway.

Anyway, The Moon Kingdom was before the Earth as it is now evolved life, the life it had then was killed off by Mettalia's MIND RAPE AURA OF KILL EVERYONE AROUND YOU.

Well that and Sailor Saturn killing anyone that might have survived in the clean up afterwords, down to single celled organism's.

Well, all I can tell you is that Uatu has been confirmed to have observed Earth since before the dinosaurs. However, Watchers are ageless and have existed as long as the universe, and according to Uatu each of them chose one star sector to oversee when it was born, so it's very possible that Uatu was literally here before even the solar system existed. He sure seems to know a whole lot about how the universe was like when it was first 'born'...

 

[Chuckg]

Wasn't the Blue Area of the Moon already built and abandoned by the Kree before Uatu put his citadel there?

He might have been in the solar system for billions of years, but apparently his house has only been in its current location for a much shorter period of time.

 

[GenocideHeart]

Wasn't the Blue Area of the Moon already built and abandoned by the Kree before Uatu put his citadel there?

He might have been in the solar system for billions of years, but apparently his house has only been in its current location for a much shorter period of time.

Uatu moved IN the Blue Area after the Kree left, but according to Ronan, he was there before the Kree built it, he just observed - y'know, Watcher and all - and the Kree steered clear of him.

 

[Aarik]

Actually...

Since Sailor Senshi can Re-life-ify their planet if it get's nommed, do you think Galactus would actually LIKE them?

An entire System of nine planet's, all of which bare life, and he can just come back in a few years for another buffet, without ever killing anyone.

 

[Deleted member 5249]

Galactus would feel a lot less guilty in this universe with senshi existing. All he needs to do is avoid eating a strangely clad man or woman and the planet he ate would come back (minus population). Though apparently Usagi is the only one can bring people back to life even if their bodies are missing.

Galactus would probably make end of series Usagi, a herald just because he'd never have to feel guilty again about the fact he eats planets since she can just bring it back for him infinitely. He wouldn't be losing whatever power he gained from eating planets when she does it either since canon confirmed she refills dead people's lifeforce with her own power instead of returning the lifeforce they lost.

 

[GenocideHeart]

Galactus would feel a lot less guilty in this universe with senshi existing. All he needs to do is avoid eating a strangely clad man or woman and the planet he ate would come back (minus population). Though apparently Usagi is the only one can bring people back to life even if their bodies are missing.

Galactus would probably make end of series Usagi, a herald just because he'd never have to feel guilty again about the fact he eats planets since she can just bring it back for him infinitely. He wouldn't be losing whatever power he gained from eating planets when she does it either since canon confirmed she refills dead people's lifeforce with her own power instead of returning the lifeforce they lost.

Actually, Galacus stopped feeling guilty about eating planets long ago, since realizing that there's a REASON why he exists and hungers. It's implied by some stories that Galactus will eventually cause a new Big Bang and return all the energy he took from the Universe a thousandfold when it reaches its inevitable 'cold death'.

In short, if Galactus DIDN'T eat planets, things would be infinitely worse, as once the universe ends, that's it, no more for it. That's also why there's an aspect of Galactus in every universe in the Marvel omniverse. Some of those universes are kind of doomed though, since their resident Galactus's have been killed or worse.

Also, Galactus needs all that power for another reason - to keep Abraxas sealed up. If he gets too weak, Abraxas breaks free, and Abraxas is like Galactus, only without restraint, completely evil, and taking particular glee in targeting inhabited planets for the hell of it.

If the Senshi actually found out about Abraxas, I'm pretty sure they'd VOLUNTEER to be Galactus's heralds, even if they couldn't restore the lost planets. Because for all that destroying entire planets is bad, the alternative is worse. With Galactus, eventually in a few billion years there won't be any planets left. With Abraxas? Same thing... in a couple years or so. Yeeeeaaaahhhh...

And to be fair, Galactus always sends advance warning - why do you think they are called HERALDS? Most races he targets are spacefaring and advanced enough to evacuate a planet no problem - the Skrull homeworld was decimated because they were idiots and thought they could REPEL Galactus instead of spending the unusually long amount of time they were given before he showed up, y'know, evacuating.

If memory serves, Galactus even calls them out on it, flatly stating that if they'd bothered evacuating their throneworld in the time they spent preparing defenses, no one would have died.

 

[Aarik]

Yeah, but, the thing is, with the Sailor Senshi, who would have always existed here, he basically never has to go hungry.

Ever.

He could literally just find a system with a few Senshi, take them off their planet, eat it, put them back, wait for them to revive it, which apparently takes like a day.

Repeat forever.

Hell, he'd probably have to go on a diet from over eating.

EDIT: And I just remembered that it's canon SM that a celestial body can only bare life of any kind if it has a Senshi, or rather, a Sailor Crystal, which usually come with a Senshi.

Also, Galactus would probably be pretty pissed at Galaxia, since she stole the Sailor Crystals, and thus, the Life of every planet in the Milky Way Galaxy during her nonsense.

 

[Deleted member 5249]

Pretty much what Aarik said. With senshi he could eat any lifebearing planet he wants and come back in a hour and eat it again.


Yeah, Asteroids, Moons and if Galaxia's outfit/theme is any thing to go by possibly even stars as well.

 

[biigoh]

Also, in Earth X, there is another WHY Galatus feeds on life/sentient worlds. It's not because he can or must. But because that's where his meals are...

Hidden beneath the crust of the planet is a Celestial egg, and he devours those worlds to kill the egg to prevent an over-population of Celestials in the universe.

 

[GenocideHeart]

Also, in Earth X, there is another WHY Galatus feeds on life/sentient worlds. It's not because he can or must. But because that's where his meals are...

Hidden beneath the crust of the planet is a Celestial egg, and he devours those worlds to kill the egg to prevent an over-population of Celestials in the universe.

To be fair, a planet with a Celestial gestating in it in Earth-X is doomed regardless, as its very lifeforce will be drained to feed the Celestial - and if memory serves, a Senshi can be greatly weakened or even killed if their planet is drained in such a fashion.

In fact, that may be the problem with Galactus as well. In the 616verse, he doesn't simply break it apart, he more or less sucks it dry of the very essence of life. Since a Senshi IS affected by their planet's state, that might very well kill them on the spot.

 

[Aarik]

I THINK that if that happens the Senshi's Sailor Crystal just goes to the Galaxy Cauldron to recharge itself before going back.

So the planet will still redevelop life, it will just take longer then an hour, so about the normal amount of time it takes for a Planet to develop life.

You would need someone with actual knowledge of the SM manga to get a straight answer.

EDIT:... And I just remembered that Chaos is infesting the Galaxy Cauldron, so that won't happen, even if it's supposed to, and since Chaos is an Aspect of God, not many things would able to get <s>him</s> It to stop.

 

[Chuckg]

Earth-X is also so very not canon in the mainstream MU.

 

[Deleted member 5249]

Also, in Earth X, there is another WHY Galatus feeds on life/sentient worlds. It's not because he can or must. But because that's where his meals are...

Hidden beneath the crust of the planet is a Celestial egg, and he devours those worlds to kill the egg to prevent an over-population of Celestials in the universe.

To be fair, a planet with a Celestial gestating in it in Earth-X is doomed regardless, as its very lifeforce will be drained to feed the Celestial - and if memory serves, a Senshi can be greatly weakened or even killed if their planet is drained in such a fashion.

In fact, that may be the problem with Galactus as well. In the 616verse, he doesn't simply break it apart, he more or less sucks it dry of the very essence of life. Since a Senshi IS affected by their planet's state, that might very well kill them on the spot.

Mamoru got ill because Nehelenia was flat out poisoning the planet with her Chaos-rooted power. But he wasn't gonna die from it at any point. He was back on his feet in a chapter or two. Fifth arc flat out said, Senshi can't die even if their physical bodies are destroyed because their crystal is eternal.

Galaxia, went out of her way to destroy those crystals by burning them up in the Sea of Origin/Light of creation which was the only thing that could do it. Usagi had to then bring those crystals back from their state of nonexistence with her own power. (I previously mistook it as the Cauldron's power that brought them back but it was all Usagi.) At the same time Usagi was reviving the galaxy, she was burning Chaos to a tiny speck hiding pathetically in the Cauldron.

But lol at Galaxia trying to steal Sailor Crystals in this verse. Galactus' response would be hilarious.

On another note, She-Hulk would probably become Makoto's idol. Minako would be a Thor fan-girl. Ami would probably be gushing over the ability to meet Mr. Fantastic and the other marvelverse geniuses.

Setsuna would probably be a historian's dream. Hotaru would probably befriend anybody else in Marvel with shitty powers like Rogue. Molly Hayes would probably become her new best friend.

 

[biigoh]

Rogue... shitty powers. Lol...

Really, she's got one of the scariest power around when you think about it. There have been implications of what exactly she can do.

She can store memories and powers even if her victim recovers. Think about that, she has the powers and memories of EVERYONE she has ever absorbed.

And there is a version of her traveling back in time and space, to when every mutant dies... giving them the choice of joining her, to live 'forever'.

 

[Deleted member 5249]

Rogue... shitty powers. Lol...

Really, she's got one of the scariest power around when you think about it. There have been implications of what exactly she can do.

She can store memories, and powers even if her victim recovers. Think about that, she has the powers of EVERYONE she has ever absorbed.

And there is a version of her traveling back in time and space, to when every mutant dies... giving them the choice of joining her, to live 'forever'.

Still she can't touch anyone or if she currently can in marvelverse, it'll just be retconned away like always.

I meant shitty as in "sucks for her" not shitty as in, "Pathetic."