SM - Percy Jackson Idea Thread
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I'm not so sure about that.
During the bit Jedite pulled with tricking people onto buses he then pulled into a pocket dimension to steal their life force, Ami kept the portal from closing by using her powers 'while in civilian form.'
Saturn was able to replicate the entire solar system in miniature, accurate enough that it predicted the coming of the Dark Moon Circus... or at least the effects of their coming. She also teleported to Pluto's side under her own power, when Galaxia attacked.
Without transforming, Usagi was (temporarily) able to hold back Galaxia's attack. Eventually Chibichibi/Sailor Cosmos stepped in, but still she held it off for a time.
So, it's suggested that the Senshi might still have access to powers of some kind in human form, though they are probably either weaker, or just harder to harness in that state.
During the bit Jedite pulled with tricking people onto buses he then pulled into a pocket dimension to steal their life force, Ami kept the portal from closing by using her powers 'while in civilian form.'
Saturn was able to replicate the entire solar system in miniature, accurate enough that it predicted the coming of the Dark Moon Circus... or at least the effects of their coming. She also teleported to Pluto's side under her own power, when Galaxia attacked.
Without transforming, Usagi was (temporarily) able to hold back Galaxia's attack. Eventually Chibichibi/Sailor Cosmos stepped in, but still she held it off for a time.
So, it's suggested that the Senshi might still have access to powers of some kind in human form, though they are probably either weaker, or just harder to harness in that state.
I don't give a shit if you think it's boring. Usagi won and is Jesus, Crystal Tokyo is perfect, get the fuck over it. If you want to write stories where Crystal Tokyo is some kind of mind control cthulhu city, then by all means do so. Just don't pretend that that shit is canon, or for that matter even hinted at in canon. You are bullshitting purely because you do not like it, and what's worse, you actually seem to be aware of that fact. You just keep doing it anyway, because WAAAH IT'S SOOOOO BORING.
Really? Then here's an idea. Go read something else.
Because most writers are unoriginal hacks who copy the shit out of the one guy who had a good idea Long, Long Ago. The one guy who thought it up originally was clever. It's been beaten to death since.
They don't write that shit because people prefer that. They write that shit because they're lazy bastards who don't want to be assed to sit down and think about how a make a perfect society that is actually believable.
And it works. Marvel and DC comics have been running for years on that philosophy. That doesn't make it fucking law, and I think less of you for your apparent belief that it does.
Except you can. I did. I've proved you wrong on TFF, so I guess you can take your ideas about what you can't do in a setting with perfection and suck my Omniversal dick.
I don't need to hear it. You're already wrong on several counts. It doesn't crop up because it's 'true,' it keeps cropping up because it's easy to copy and it's a cheap way to 'stick it to the man.' People keep writing Evil Crystal Tokyo for the same reason fanfiction writers keep demonizing reasonable authority figures. I don't need to hear an argument based on how some fanfiction of a completely unrelated series chooses to define 'perfection.'
You are wrong, according to canon. Deal with it.
Really? Then here's an idea. Go read something else.
Because most writers are unoriginal hacks who copy the shit out of the one guy who had a good idea Long, Long Ago. The one guy who thought it up originally was clever. It's been beaten to death since.
They don't write that shit because people prefer that. They write that shit because they're lazy bastards who don't want to be assed to sit down and think about how a make a perfect society that is actually believable.
And it works. Marvel and DC comics have been running for years on that philosophy. That doesn't make it fucking law, and I think less of you for your apparent belief that it does.
Except you can. I did. I've proved you wrong on TFF, so I guess you can take your ideas about what you can't do in a setting with perfection and suck my Omniversal dick.
I don't need to hear it. You're already wrong on several counts. It doesn't crop up because it's 'true,' it keeps cropping up because it's easy to copy and it's a cheap way to 'stick it to the man.' People keep writing Evil Crystal Tokyo for the same reason fanfiction writers keep demonizing reasonable authority figures. I don't need to hear an argument based on how some fanfiction of a completely unrelated series chooses to define 'perfection.'
You are wrong, according to canon. Deal with it.
I wasn't going to say anything, because it looked like the argument was over, but of course there had to be someone who wouldn't let it go.
The issue that a lot of the anti-CT crowd has with CT is Suspension of Disbelief. Utopia (which means 'no place', BTW) is a concept that is inherently very difficult to believe. A leader getting a 100% approval rating is extremely difficult to believe, especially in a society like manga Future Earth, which didn't have the massive die-off that the anime seems to have had (i.e. one with a presumably large population). Destroying SoD is a bad thing to do in any series.
Its been mentioned elsewhere that Usagi's family is an expy of the mangaka's family. If true (is it, or is it fanon?), then you've got Usagi as a possible Canon Sue, which would explain the approval rating, but is also a very bad thing. Even if the Tsukinos aren't an expy of the Takeuchis, what we know of CT still makes her look like a Canon Sue, because society doesn't work that way, without mass mind control. Even I agree Usagi simply would not use that, so the only non-SoD-destroying answer is out.
When canon kills your Suspension of Disbelief, but you still like some of the characters, all you have left is fanon.
The issue that a lot of the anti-CT crowd has with CT is Suspension of Disbelief. Utopia (which means 'no place', BTW) is a concept that is inherently very difficult to believe. A leader getting a 100% approval rating is extremely difficult to believe, especially in a society like manga Future Earth, which didn't have the massive die-off that the anime seems to have had (i.e. one with a presumably large population). Destroying SoD is a bad thing to do in any series.
Its been mentioned elsewhere that Usagi's family is an expy of the mangaka's family. If true (is it, or is it fanon?), then you've got Usagi as a possible Canon Sue, which would explain the approval rating, but is also a very bad thing. Even if the Tsukinos aren't an expy of the Takeuchis, what we know of CT still makes her look like a Canon Sue, because society doesn't work that way, without mass mind control. Even I agree Usagi simply would not use that, so the only non-SoD-destroying answer is out.
When canon kills your Suspension of Disbelief, but you still like some of the characters, all you have left is fanon.
Selective hearing. I notice that you blatantly refused to comment on my quote. Pretty much everything you've wrote is opinions. You claimed that you proved that a Utopia can be written on TFF? I just have one thing to say in response:
LINKS OR IT DIDN"T HAPPEN.
If you think everthing is so unoriginal, WRITE SOMETHING YOURSELF. Get over it. No one likes a flamer.
By the way, I heard that Hawk was back. I don't know if that is truth or a lie, but do you want to bring it up with him? We can both bring our posts as evidence as to who needs a warning/is banned. Are you willing?
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LINKS OR IT DIDN"T HAPPEN.
If you think everthing is so unoriginal, WRITE SOMETHING YOURSELF. Get over it. No one likes a flamer.
By the way, I heard that Hawk was back. I don't know if that is truth or a lie, but do you want to bring it up with him? We can both bring our posts as evidence as to who needs a warning/is banned. Are you willing?
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NO ONE DIED IN THE ANIME. NO ONE!
Prince Charon you've mentioned this every time you bring up CT but seem to ignore me when I repeat in Canon no one ever died. Great Freeze was a extended sleep. No one died in the anime.
When I said her family were expys of Naoko's I didn't think you'd take it so literally. Ikuko and Kenji were originally Minako's parents before being transplaneted to Usagi when Sailor Moon started. They were named after the mangaka's parents.
Also I repeat again.
Real Life doesn't have love waves or a girl literally born from all good in the universe. It does not have a girl who connected the whole galaxy including Earth itself for one brief moment and experience the feelings of love she has for all of humanity. It does not have a girl who could bring the dead back to life and revived trillions upon trillions of people at once.
You can't treat Usagi like a normal person. Everyone on the planet and the whole galaxy by the end of the series felt her deep love for life in general. Everyone in the galaxy knows she's super awesome because they felt her fighting to protect them. They know she loves each and everyone of them and will fight tooth and nail to protect them.
Usagi has no real life equivalent. You can't compare her to anyone ever.
CT is nothing new. Usagi and the senshi have done everything in the series through the powah of love.
The fanon of crystal Tokyo is pure and utter character rape. If you have to use it. You don't like the characters at all because you clearly don't understand them if you use shitty fanon. You just like OCs that look like them.
He meant his Omniverse thread he said it right in his response. Also nothing about that is flame worthy. Your quote is irrelevant to this discussion that's why he ignored it.
Prince Charon you've mentioned this every time you bring up CT but seem to ignore me when I repeat in Canon no one ever died. Great Freeze was a extended sleep. No one died in the anime.
When I said her family were expys of Naoko's I didn't think you'd take it so literally. Ikuko and Kenji were originally Minako's parents before being transplaneted to Usagi when Sailor Moon started. They were named after the mangaka's parents.
Also I repeat again.
Real Life doesn't have love waves or a girl literally born from all good in the universe. It does not have a girl who connected the whole galaxy including Earth itself for one brief moment and experience the feelings of love she has for all of humanity. It does not have a girl who could bring the dead back to life and revived trillions upon trillions of people at once.
You can't treat Usagi like a normal person. Everyone on the planet and the whole galaxy by the end of the series felt her deep love for life in general. Everyone in the galaxy knows she's super awesome because they felt her fighting to protect them. They know she loves each and everyone of them and will fight tooth and nail to protect them.
Usagi has no real life equivalent. You can't compare her to anyone ever.
CT is nothing new. Usagi and the senshi have done everything in the series through the powah of love.
The fanon of crystal Tokyo is pure and utter character rape. If you have to use it. You don't like the characters at all because you clearly don't understand them if you use shitty fanon. You just like OCs that look like them.
He meant his Omniverse thread he said it right in his response. Also nothing about that is flame worthy. Your quote is irrelevant to this discussion that's why he ignored it.
So did I. Apparently not, though.
<a href='http://z14.invisionfree.com/The_Fanfiction_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15085' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Since I know you have no testicles, and thus will never be enough of a man to admit that you were wrong, I'll just go ahead and say 'apology accepted.'</a>
I do write things, you dumb whore. I've written more things for recreational purposes than you've written in your entire life. How about you actually, I don't know, READ SOME SHIT instead of calling everybody who points out how retarded your narrow view is a 'flamer'?
Seriously. A <a href='http://z14.invisionfree.com/The_Fanfiction_Forum/index.php?act=Search&CODE=getalluser&mid=11179' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>fucking noob leecher</a> doesn't get to talk shit to actual writers about not having written enough. Shut the fuck up, greenhorn, and educate yourself before shooting your mouth off.
I know. That's why nobody likes you.
If that's the problem, then you guys are even more retarded than I thought, because you're basically saying that all of the things leading up to Crystal Tokyo were acceptable breaks from reality, but Crystal Tokyo itself is somehow over the fucking line.
This is a series where the protagonist is a teenage girl who is actually the empress of the universe and uses rainbows, miniskirts, and elaborate dance to defeat demons that look like anthropomorphic household appliances and were created by throwing seeds at them.
That, you are fine with. But Utopia through shared love? That's what was over the line for you? Not Infinite Uterus Rainbow Crasher, not Pretty Pink Princess Pompom Power, not the demons that look like Power Ranger monsters-of-the-week. It was fucking Crystal Tokyo. That's what you found absurd?
Jesus Christ what kind of blow to the head did you suffer as a child?
<a href='http://z14.invisionfree.com/The_Fanfiction_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15085' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Since I know you have no testicles, and thus will never be enough of a man to admit that you were wrong, I'll just go ahead and say 'apology accepted.'</a>
I do write things, you dumb whore. I've written more things for recreational purposes than you've written in your entire life. How about you actually, I don't know, READ SOME SHIT instead of calling everybody who points out how retarded your narrow view is a 'flamer'?
Seriously. A <a href='http://z14.invisionfree.com/The_Fanfiction_Forum/index.php?act=Search&CODE=getalluser&mid=11179' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>fucking noob leecher</a> doesn't get to talk shit to actual writers about not having written enough. Shut the fuck up, greenhorn, and educate yourself before shooting your mouth off.
I know. That's why nobody likes you.
If that's the problem, then you guys are even more retarded than I thought, because you're basically saying that all of the things leading up to Crystal Tokyo were acceptable breaks from reality, but Crystal Tokyo itself is somehow over the fucking line.
This is a series where the protagonist is a teenage girl who is actually the empress of the universe and uses rainbows, miniskirts, and elaborate dance to defeat demons that look like anthropomorphic household appliances and were created by throwing seeds at them.
That, you are fine with. But Utopia through shared love? That's what was over the line for you? Not Infinite Uterus Rainbow Crasher, not Pretty Pink Princess Pompom Power, not the demons that look like Power Ranger monsters-of-the-week. It was fucking Crystal Tokyo. That's what you found absurd?
Jesus Christ what kind of blow to the head did you suffer as a child?
I just want to let you know that if such a system existed I would give you karma for this post. This was what I was trying to get at earlier but you put it much better than I could.
Seriously? Just so you know, insulting people who hold a different view then you doesnÆt mean you win the argument; it just makes you look childish.
Everything becomes absurd when you start to simplify it like that. Besides, thatÆs not what Sailor Moon is about at its core. ItÆs about good vs. evil; heroes vs. villains. This is set against the background of a world that besides these changes appears to be like reality. The fact that the heroes fight with crystals and rainbows and the monsters look like they belong in Power Rangers is part of the genre of the series. No one has any problems with that.
The reason that Crystal Tokyo breaks the suspension of disbelief some people is because it basically exists by saying æoh by the way people no longer act like people; Sailor Moon was elected as queen for life and she has a 100% approval rating; and everyone lives happily and there is sunshine and rainbows and kittensÆ. Canonically Usagi becomes queen of the earth in a ridiculously short amount of time (something like five years); beyond the appearance of a complete rewrite of human nature in regards to how people view Usagi, I think that the short time span that it took for Usagi to become queen of the world is what breaks the suspension of disbelief for people. True utopiaÆs are very hard to pull off correctly simply because humanity, for all our claims of being civilized doesnÆt get along with one another very well. This leads to people at least on an unconscious level looking for the catch with so called perfect societies. However, thatÆs not to say that they canÆt be written without breaking suspension of disbelief. Just off the top of my head: humanity works as best it can to make sure everyone has enough to do well in the world; over hundreds of years humanity works to get rid of the inherent flaws that cause problems between people (that people canÆt fully understand one another); utopian society emerges; humanity spreads across the stars, adventuring, building, and creating new life.
In other words, the utopian society isnÆt the problem. The problem is that the utopian society feels thrown in as afterthought. It feels like this society was created effortlessly therefore people don't trust it.
Seriously? Just so you know, insulting people who hold a different view then you doesnÆt mean you win the argument; it just makes you look childish.
Everything becomes absurd when you start to simplify it like that. Besides, thatÆs not what Sailor Moon is about at its core. ItÆs about good vs. evil; heroes vs. villains. This is set against the background of a world that besides these changes appears to be like reality. The fact that the heroes fight with crystals and rainbows and the monsters look like they belong in Power Rangers is part of the genre of the series. No one has any problems with that.
The reason that Crystal Tokyo breaks the suspension of disbelief some people is because it basically exists by saying æoh by the way people no longer act like people; Sailor Moon was elected as queen for life and she has a 100% approval rating; and everyone lives happily and there is sunshine and rainbows and kittensÆ. Canonically Usagi becomes queen of the earth in a ridiculously short amount of time (something like five years); beyond the appearance of a complete rewrite of human nature in regards to how people view Usagi, I think that the short time span that it took for Usagi to become queen of the world is what breaks the suspension of disbelief for people. True utopiaÆs are very hard to pull off correctly simply because humanity, for all our claims of being civilized doesnÆt get along with one another very well. This leads to people at least on an unconscious level looking for the catch with so called perfect societies. However, thatÆs not to say that they canÆt be written without breaking suspension of disbelief. Just off the top of my head: humanity works as best it can to make sure everyone has enough to do well in the world; over hundreds of years humanity works to get rid of the inherent flaws that cause problems between people (that people canÆt fully understand one another); utopian society emerges; humanity spreads across the stars, adventuring, building, and creating new life.
In other words, the utopian society isnÆt the problem. The problem is that the utopian society feels thrown in as afterthought. It feels like this society was created effortlessly therefore people don't trust it.
You could have pointed that out without cursing and being so vitriolic. Really, and I get called a flamer? Directly from Urban Dictionary. Will you ignore this? Probably, and will flame me once again.
I have disagreed with this thread. I do not think that CT is possible. Despite the insults and unwarranted curses directed at me, I have tried to remain relatively calm. That is what makes me not a flamer. Have I attacked you as a person yet? No. Not really. I have disagreed, but I have not insulted you. Not like your posts directed at me.
It's anime. Moreso, a magical girl anime. Several things I can accept in these types of anime. I can believe that a schoolage girl gets magical powers and fights in a skimpy outfit. I can believe that the power of love can defeat enemies and heal allies. I can believe in reincarnation. I can accept that there was once an ancient empire that spanned the solar system. I can believe that demons that look like female human chimera drain life energy. I can even believe that a girl is a decendant from the equivalent of God and is able to revive a galaxy.
All of this is standard anime (and mahou shoujo) fare.
What I CANNOT believe is that everyone on Earth would be willing to accept a girl in her late teens-early 20's ruling over EVERYTHING, without any known qualifications WHATSOEVER.
And wow. Really. From what I read of your "apology accepted" link, LR, There isn't very much "utopia" that I was able to see. Then you naturally attack me, claiming that I have never read anything and have never wrote anything. Sure. Whatever you say. Saying that I was dropped on a head as a baby? Really?
I take pride in not stooping down to shit-flinging at other members and their opinions. Disagreements? Sure. But I won't insult them.
However, I WILL defend myself if someone shit-flings at me. Just not by returning shit.
I have disagreed with this thread. I do not think that CT is possible. Despite the insults and unwarranted curses directed at me, I have tried to remain relatively calm. That is what makes me not a flamer. Have I attacked you as a person yet? No. Not really. I have disagreed, but I have not insulted you. Not like your posts directed at me.
It's anime. Moreso, a magical girl anime. Several things I can accept in these types of anime. I can believe that a schoolage girl gets magical powers and fights in a skimpy outfit. I can believe that the power of love can defeat enemies and heal allies. I can believe in reincarnation. I can accept that there was once an ancient empire that spanned the solar system. I can believe that demons that look like female human chimera drain life energy. I can even believe that a girl is a decendant from the equivalent of God and is able to revive a galaxy.
All of this is standard anime (and mahou shoujo) fare.
What I CANNOT believe is that everyone on Earth would be willing to accept a girl in her late teens-early 20's ruling over EVERYTHING, without any known qualifications WHATSOEVER.
And wow. Really. From what I read of your "apology accepted" link, LR, There isn't very much "utopia" that I was able to see. Then you naturally attack me, claiming that I have never read anything and have never wrote anything. Sure. Whatever you say. Saying that I was dropped on a head as a baby? Really?
I take pride in not stooping down to shit-flinging at other members and their opinions. Disagreements? Sure. But I won't insult them.
However, I WILL defend myself if someone shit-flings at me. Just not by returning shit.
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Usagi brings to the table:
Safety to the planet, Safe Passage to Other planets, Extended Life Spans, Better Health. New Technology (Other Planets called Earth a primitive mudball in comparison to what they're used to). Usagi's positive PR has now made Earth super special across the galaxy. "Oh you're the planet with Sailor Moon? She brought my children back to me. Here's free access to my planet!"
Again the whole world now knows they have a woman who can bring anyone back to life just by asking her. Just think about that. Calamities/Natural Disasters/Terrorist Attacks/Murders happen, Usagi's right there healing the injured and bringing back the dead. People would no longer have to deal with their loved ones being tragically cut short. People would only die of old age.
Between her and the senshi they could turn deserts into rich farmland.. Create rainwater during droughts. Her healing/resurrection abilities are so broken it transcends space-time and it only gets worse and worse as she gets older. It even effects non-living things. She brought back everything ever exactly as it was during Infinity. She can repair ancient objects to their former glory in a instant.
She'd probably be able to cure cancer and AIDs by twitching her nose one afternoon. Or pick up a drug from one of the billions of planets who owe her a favor. With the less fortunate she could give them fresh land, money and houses on any planet ever if she wanted to. "Hey I'm repopulating the Moon/Mercury/Mars etc. Want to live there? You'll get everything you need. Good schools for your kids too!"
Look at those Headlines: SUPERHERO CURES EVERY DISEASE/SICKNESS EVER!
Seriously, you can't see why people would want all of that?
Everyone would be clamoring up to suck up to this woman.
Without Chaos and his brood for a short while, Sailor Moon will have nothing else to do but be more proactive on Earth and help it's people. Remember her dream literally is to protect Earth and help it's people.
Of course she has a high approval rating. She's would have likely helped everyone on the planet at one point or another. You all seem to be ignoring her super powers and need to help people in suffering.
Twenty Two is canonically when Usagi extended everyone's lifespan, gave birth to ChibiUsa and inherited her Neo-Queen Serenity powers other then that we have no more info on CT's status at that time.
Again, I keep repeating this but everyone keeps ignoring it. There is no real life equivalent to Usagi. Quit comparing her to a average person. She's better and everyone on the planet in SMverse is quite aware of it.
Literally everyone on the planet by the end of the series knows Sailor Moon is a decent person and loves them all. There is no mistake about that. Everyone in the ENTIRE GALAXY felt her fighting Chaos for their safety. Everyone on the planet felt her love for them all through out their bodies. Everyone on the planet/galaxy already knows they owe Sailor Moon their life.
Everyone knows she's not a power hungry monster. Everyone in existence temporarily had a empathetic connection with her. THEY KNOW SHE'S NOT A THREAT!
So the people of SMverse earth know they have as a protector a woman who can bring anyone back to life, cure any sickness, saved their ass from a evil abomination from beyond the stars repeatedly. A woman who they all know is selfless and not power hungry. A woman who can open up entire worlds to them if they just ask. A woman who everyone on the planet knows loves each and every one of them and wants them happy and free.
With all this in play, why wouldn't they like her again? Seriously who wouldn't elect that?
Safety to the planet, Safe Passage to Other planets, Extended Life Spans, Better Health. New Technology (Other Planets called Earth a primitive mudball in comparison to what they're used to). Usagi's positive PR has now made Earth super special across the galaxy. "Oh you're the planet with Sailor Moon? She brought my children back to me. Here's free access to my planet!"
Again the whole world now knows they have a woman who can bring anyone back to life just by asking her. Just think about that. Calamities/Natural Disasters/Terrorist Attacks/Murders happen, Usagi's right there healing the injured and bringing back the dead. People would no longer have to deal with their loved ones being tragically cut short. People would only die of old age.
Between her and the senshi they could turn deserts into rich farmland.. Create rainwater during droughts. Her healing/resurrection abilities are so broken it transcends space-time and it only gets worse and worse as she gets older. It even effects non-living things. She brought back everything ever exactly as it was during Infinity. She can repair ancient objects to their former glory in a instant.
She'd probably be able to cure cancer and AIDs by twitching her nose one afternoon. Or pick up a drug from one of the billions of planets who owe her a favor. With the less fortunate she could give them fresh land, money and houses on any planet ever if she wanted to. "Hey I'm repopulating the Moon/Mercury/Mars etc. Want to live there? You'll get everything you need. Good schools for your kids too!"
Look at those Headlines: SUPERHERO CURES EVERY DISEASE/SICKNESS EVER!
Seriously, you can't see why people would want all of that?
Everyone would be clamoring up to suck up to this woman.
Without Chaos and his brood for a short while, Sailor Moon will have nothing else to do but be more proactive on Earth and help it's people. Remember her dream literally is to protect Earth and help it's people.
Of course she has a high approval rating. She's would have likely helped everyone on the planet at one point or another. You all seem to be ignoring her super powers and need to help people in suffering.
Twenty Two is canonically when Usagi extended everyone's lifespan, gave birth to ChibiUsa and inherited her Neo-Queen Serenity powers other then that we have no more info on CT's status at that time.
Again, I keep repeating this but everyone keeps ignoring it. There is no real life equivalent to Usagi. Quit comparing her to a average person. She's better and everyone on the planet in SMverse is quite aware of it.
Literally everyone on the planet by the end of the series knows Sailor Moon is a decent person and loves them all. There is no mistake about that. Everyone in the ENTIRE GALAXY felt her fighting Chaos for their safety. Everyone on the planet felt her love for them all through out their bodies. Everyone on the planet/galaxy already knows they owe Sailor Moon their life.
Everyone knows she's not a power hungry monster. Everyone in existence temporarily had a empathetic connection with her. THEY KNOW SHE'S NOT A THREAT!
So the people of SMverse earth know they have as a protector a woman who can bring anyone back to life, cure any sickness, saved their ass from a evil abomination from beyond the stars repeatedly. A woman who they all know is selfless and not power hungry. A woman who can open up entire worlds to them if they just ask. A woman who everyone on the planet knows loves each and every one of them and wants them happy and free.
With all this in play, why wouldn't they like her again? Seriously who wouldn't elect that?
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Okay, my piddling reputation here is mild enough that I can get away with it once I guess.
Ragnarok.
Someone appears on an internet forum, and supplies no content, then, after awhile, they start stating utterly inane, non canonical statement's about a series being discussed.
The intelligence of these statement's amounts to that of honestly saying that 1+1=11.
Then, another, older, poster notices said someone's posts, and get's fed up with their sheer rampant idiocy, and just fires on all cylinder's at them, hoping that they'll get the hint if hit hard enough.
He does not get the hint, regardless of how much canon is thrown at him, how much proof is thrown at him, and especially no matter how much vitriol is thrown at him.
He just continues being a petulant imbecile who doesn't understand the story he's babbling non canon nonsense about, whining about other people being flamers, when, in fact, they are just fed up with how thick headed he is in general.
What would you call this?
Personally? I call it sad.
Okay, my piddling reputation here is mild enough that I can get away with it once I guess.
Ragnarok.
Someone appears on an internet forum, and supplies no content, then, after awhile, they start stating utterly inane, non canonical statement's about a series being discussed.
The intelligence of these statement's amounts to that of honestly saying that 1+1=11.
Then, another, older, poster notices said someone's posts, and get's fed up with their sheer rampant idiocy, and just fires on all cylinder's at them, hoping that they'll get the hint if hit hard enough.
He does not get the hint, regardless of how much canon is thrown at him, how much proof is thrown at him, and especially no matter how much vitriol is thrown at him.
He just continues being a petulant imbecile who doesn't understand the story he's babbling non canon nonsense about, whining about other people being flamers, when, in fact, they are just fed up with how thick headed he is in general.
What would you call this?
Personally? I call it sad.
And then, as all perfect Utopias, it must end. The one only second to moon, the Morning Star, Sailor Venus, thought that it was unfair that Serenity got all the power and love, and convinced several other planets that, while Neo Queen Serentity is great and all, why should she have all the power?
So she goes to rebel along with several million others, and tries to overthrow the Queen. However, she was no match for Serenity's true power, and was cast out of Crystal Tokyo and forced never return. However, the insurgents will still try (and succeed somewhat) to bring over others to their side. And once their numbers are high enough, the Fallen Star Venus will strike at Neo Queen Serenity once again.
Okay, I admit that now I'm just being ridiculous and typed up a modified version of the Fall of Lucifer. But I was being serious before, I swear!
So she goes to rebel along with several million others, and tries to overthrow the Queen. However, she was no match for Serenity's true power, and was cast out of Crystal Tokyo and forced never return. However, the insurgents will still try (and succeed somewhat) to bring over others to their side. And once their numbers are high enough, the Fallen Star Venus will strike at Neo Queen Serenity once again.
Okay, I admit that now I'm just being ridiculous and typed up a modified version of the Fall of Lucifer. But I was being serious before, I swear!
I know. Everything in Sailor Moon becomes absurd when you simplify it like that. That's called 'logic,' and for a bare moment, it pierced through your cloud of self-induced stupid and reminded you that this is a series about magical girls fighting with pretty princess power and glittering soap bubbles.
Unfortuantely, the Dumbass side of the Force is too strong in you, and the revelation was quickly rationalized away as some kind of voodoo word trickery on my part. I presume that is why you are indignant. How dare I use this sorcerery upon you? How dare I.
Unfortuantely, the Dumbass side of the Force is too strong in you, and the revelation was quickly rationalized away as some kind of voodoo word trickery on my part. I presume that is why you are indignant. How dare I use this sorcerery upon you? How dare I.
Wait, you can Block people? Why wasn't this listed when I signed up?
*looks at several members discreetly*
Seriously, though. That last paragraph or so about the "fall" of CT was a joke. Yes. How DARE I take things lightly? Canon is SERIOUS BUSINESS.
Anyway, I'm done. I tried to lighten the mood, but no one is having anything of it. Block me? Fine. If you want to take this so seriously I won't bother reading the thread anymore. Flame all you want. I won't be reading any of it.
*looks at several members discreetly*
Seriously, though. That last paragraph or so about the "fall" of CT was a joke. Yes. How DARE I take things lightly? Canon is SERIOUS BUSINESS.
Anyway, I'm done. I tried to lighten the mood, but no one is having anything of it. Block me? Fine. If you want to take this so seriously I won't bother reading the thread anymore. Flame all you want. I won't be reading any of it.
Y'know, I looked for a blocking option, but didn't find it. Did I look in the wrong place (in which case, where should I have looked), or do I need to download a program to do it for me?
Re: no-one dying in the Great Freeze: I see. That just makes it worse. Fanon adds the death thing because of SoD. Also, see below.
Re: Lord Raine's rant: Psychology (& sociology) are very different fields from physics. It is vastly easier to suspend disbelief for magic than it is for people no-longer acting like people.
Also, there's no need to insult people for disagreeing with you. It does, in fact, make you look foolish and childish. At least Seiya remains fairly calm when he disagrees with people. Relatively.
Re: no-one dying in the Great Freeze: I see. That just makes it worse. Fanon adds the death thing because of SoD. Also, see below.
Re: Lord Raine's rant: Psychology (& sociology) are very different fields from physics. It is vastly easier to suspend disbelief for magic than it is for people no-longer acting like people.
Also, there's no need to insult people for disagreeing with you. It does, in fact, make you look foolish and childish. At least Seiya remains fairly calm when he disagrees with people. Relatively.
One, Seiya is a girl.
Two, we're insulting his INTELLIGENCE, and possibly him for being a troll, since he was perpetuating an argument that was just pissing people off when he KNEW he was wrong, in BOTH CANON'S.
And again, as Seiya said, THERE IS NO EQUIVALENT TO USAGI.
None, not even Jesus had that kinda stuff going for him, AND LOOK AT HIM, Hundreds of thousands of people bow to his name two thousand years after his death, people even argue about doing what he told them to properly, and get mad at people who don't.
Two, we're insulting his INTELLIGENCE, and possibly him for being a troll, since he was perpetuating an argument that was just pissing people off when he KNEW he was wrong, in BOTH CANON'S.
And again, as Seiya said, THERE IS NO EQUIVALENT TO USAGI.
None, not even Jesus had that kinda stuff going for him, AND LOOK AT HIM, Hundreds of thousands of people bow to his name two thousand years after his death, people even argue about doing what he told them to properly, and get mad at people who don't.
I did not know that (or possibly forgot). Judging gender on the internet is far from easy. There has occasionally been discussion on whether Lord Raine is a girl or not.
Look at Lord Raine's earlier rant, where he feels the need to go to red text, among other things. His/her behavior is uncalled for.
... and many people don't agree with his followers, or with the things he's on record as having said.
There is no great decision that can be made, that will not have loud voices raised against it.
No one gets a 100% approval rating from the whole world.
Humans don't work that way.
Look at Lord Raine's earlier rant, where he feels the need to go to red text, among other things. His/her behavior is uncalled for.
... and many people don't agree with his followers, or with the things he's on record as having said.
There is no great decision that can be made, that will not have loud voices raised against it.
No one gets a 100% approval rating from the whole world.
Humans don't work that way.