Evangelion Smallest reasonable height for the Evangelion

Prince Charon

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#1
The heights of the Evas, at least in the original anime, are somewhat inconsistent. We can perhaps estimate the size of the Eva by working out the size of the interior of the entry tamponplug, and then working from there to determine the smallest size the Eva could be, while still containing the plug.

So, does anyone have a clear idea of what the diameter of the plug is, and about how much longer it is than wide?
 

alansg

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#2
From what I remember, the lower height in the anime is 40 meters (around 130 feet) . In Rebuild is set to 80 meters (280 feet).
 

TmDagger

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#3
That's about right. Height of 60 metres makes breaking sound barrier realistically possible(like Shinji managed to in second rebuild movie).
 

The Ero-Sennin

The Eyes of Heaven
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#4
Super Robot Wars keeps them at a consistent 40 meters,
 

FourthWall

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#5
I go with SRW on these things, so 40m. Although I think I had them as 60 for MwM, but I didn't research shit for shit in that.
 

Prince Charon

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#6
Now, if I could just remember why I wanted to know...
 
#8
What I heard (possibly on Evageeks somewhere?) is that the height in the anime varied between 40 m and 200 m. I split the difference and went with 108 m in the fic I'm writing.
 

PCHeintz72

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#9
philopoemen said:
What I heard (possibly on Evageeks somewhere?) is that the height in the anime varied between 40 m and 200 m. I split the difference and went with 108 m in the fic I'm writing.
Not sure how get 108 out of splitting the difference, but it hardly matters.

The issue is it all depends upon what you are using for a reference point in the anime. Comparing their scale when shown fighting on the aircraft carrier for example will give completely different numbers than if comparing to next to a building, or using the shoe imprints left behind, or next to a VTOL.

Also, I'm reasonably sure the scale is slightly different in the rebuild movies.

EDIT: I'm correct, here from the Evangelion wiki:

Evangelions do not have a fixed size in the show, and vary in size as the situation demands, going from 40 meters to a towering 200 meters in height (they all have a height of approximately 80 meters in the Rebuild continuity).
Also: http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/File:Evangelion_Scale_(Rebuild).png
 
#10
PCHeintz72 said:
Not sure how get 108 out of splitting the difference, but it hardly matters.
Because MAGIC, that's how! -- Or mysticism, anyway. Couldn't resist going for a culturally significant number (which, as luck has it, is easily comparable to the height of St. Paul's Cathedral in London). Here's a rundown for the curious: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/108_(number)#Religion_and_the_arts.
 

Prince Charon

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#11
The inconsistent height in the original series was the reason I suggested measuring based on the inside of the entry dildoplug, as that was fairly consistent.
 

The Vale

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#12
Judging by the amount of room in there compared to pilot arm-span based on height i would guess a plug diameter of approx 2 meters (they give them a lot of space width wise by the looks) based on that and the initial insertion



we could say that the vertebra at the top of teh spine is approx 4 metres in diameter (double).
This is necessary for the plug to serve as the central nervous control via insertion through the spine. Probably why it is so large in the first place to make it a snug fit.
Assuming a general correlation between human and eva size ratios to preserve pilot motor skills and co-ordination, cervical vertebrae width average 130mm, shoulder width average of 46cm according to this direct correlation puts inverse width ratio at approx 3.54 so shoulder width on eva is then 14.15 metres.
Average height is 178cm (for our purpose) approx 3.8xshoulder width. From that we can extrapolate that the height of the eva is 53 metres.

Adjust for error and call it 50. Anything less than 45 is probably not feasible.
 

Aarik

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#13
Don't forget the plug itself has a few feet of armor plating and there's some kind of shock absorber system for when the plugs eject, plus the circuitry that has to be in there, so it's probably actually about three or four meters on the outside.

And even the size of the entry plugs change in the shots, sometimes they're huge like in that pic and sometimes they eject and the entry plug is like a pencil shooting out the Eva's back.

SRW has the OS Eva's at 40m, Rebuild consistently keeps the Eva's at 80m, the show has it change between scenes, sometimes the SAME Scene.
 

The Vale

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#14
except that pilots step directly into cockpit and out of - the length of it is where the tech is stored. Pencil impression is caused by relative length to width because it is at minimum 5 times longer than it is wide. that is enough space to store at minimum 3 pilot seats, being generous in their size. the kind of weight you are talking about would also make ejection just about impossible. You have to remember that the plug is a last resort and not a stand alone system - it only exists as part of the eva. the shock absorption is the LCL and i suspect they have parachutes though i can't remember if the were shown in canon.

also


shows a couple inches at most of plating
 
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