Star Trek Random Ideas Thread

Prince Charon

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#1
A random ideas thread, for Star Trek - all series and movies, even the ones I hate (that would be Abramstrek, and to a lesser degree, ENT, VOY, and Nemesis). When using an idea set in an official alternate universe, like Abramstrek, the Mirror Universe, or one of the ones from <a href='http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Trek%3A_Myriad_Universes' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Star Trek: Myriad Universes</a>, make sure you specify which universe(s) you're working on.

AU from the timeline that existed for most of the ENT episode <a href='http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Twilight_%28episode%29' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Twilight</a>:

Some time after Earth is destroyed, the NX-01 travels back in time to the twentieth or twenty-first century, to change history by giving past-Earth the technology and historical knowledge they bring with them.

How far back they go is up to the writer, but I recommend far enough back to prevent WWIII.
 

Ordo

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#2
I loved the recent Star Trek movie and can't wait for more!

TNG: Data's daughter Lal, survives her breakdown and continues growing into her own person aboard the Star Ship Enterprise.

K'Ehleyr, the mother of Alexander, is put into a coma after Duras attacks her. Later, when Worf's name is finally cleared the two marry and begin building a family. K'Ehleyr continues her work as an Ambassador so she's not always aboard the Enterprise.

Captain Picard dies during th events of "Best of Both worlds" leaving Riker the new captain of the Enterprise and Data as his second in command. How doe the rest of the series proceed from this divergence?

Ishara Yar actually turns on her people, rejecting her official mission after gaining the trust of the Enterprise crew. She leaves for Starfleet Academt, the story mostly following her attempt to adjust to a new life and find her place in Starfleet.

The story follows Ensign Ro Laren as we learn her 'defection' was staged by Starfleet highcommand as a way to monitor the Maquis and keep them from going to far. We follow her adventures as she infiltrates the Maqis, minimizes the damage they cause, try to eliminate/isolate/marginalize the Maquis more dangerous members while ensuring that the Cardassians aren't allowed free reign.

The penultimate ending dealing with her return to the Enterprise and regaining the crews trust.
 

bissek

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#3
Ordo said:
Captain Picard dies during the events of "Best of Both worlds" leaving Riker the new captain of the Enterprise and Data as his second in command. How doe the rest of the series proceed from this divergence?
This one was very nearly canon. Apparently Paramount was having contract issues with Patrick Stewart at the end of Season 3. If negotiations had fallen through, he would have died in the second part of that episode.
 

Prince Charon

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#4
bissek said:
Ordo said:
Captain Picard dies during the events of "Best of Both worlds" leaving Riker the new captain of the Enterprise and Data as his second in command. How doe the rest of the series proceed from this divergence?
This one was very nearly canon. Apparently Paramount was having contract issues with Patrick Stewart at the end of Season 3. If negotiations had fallen through, he would have died in the second part of that episode.
Hmm, I wonder how Riker would have handled, for example, <a href='http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Suddenly_Human_%28episode%29' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Suddenly Human</a>, or <a href='http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Reunion_%28episode%29' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Reunion</a> - without Picard, would Riker have gotten the job of Arbiter of Succession? If not, then who?
 

Prince Charon

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#5
Shatner manages to annoy the execs enough to be demoted to extra, and in story, Kirk is promoted to Fleet Captain, to command a new Federation-class dreadnought.

Imagine TOS season three with Spock as captain... imagine that they have better writers, too, so the worst episodes of that season either don't happen, or happen very differently, in a manner that doesn't suck.
 

rdde

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#7
In light of all the potential anti-planet or anti-star weapons, what if the Federation rationally spends a significant portion of their industrial might in constructing space colonies from day one? What would be the effect of developing and having a mega-engineering discipline of that scale have on the Federation and its neighbours?

It might be fun if their Sovereign-class was indeed the equivalent of a racing car when compared to their real dreadnoughts. ^_^
 

Lord Raa

Exporter of Juice Tins
#8
I was watching SFDebris' review of First Contact earlier.

Question: What if someone else got the idea to interfere with the pre-Federation Earth?

Not necessarily enslaving us all or grafting technology to our sensitive parts, but changing things so that the Vulcans aren't the first aliens normal people see.

Normal, as in not military (like in the Little Green Men episode of DS9).

Who would be a good race to visit us?

I did start to look at potential Dominion influence in my terrible Ranma fic, "Got Change?", but it needs something in order to make this idea more of a reality, and the inane ramblings of someone who needs more sleep and fewer headaches isn't quite what I had in mind.
 

Prince Charon

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#10
Andorians might be interesting.

Not quite what I think you meant, as there is some military involvement, but I had an idea a while ago that in the 1950s, the Vulcans and Andorians were having a 'cold' phase in their long conflict, and both sides decided to use Earth as a proxy. The Andorians start interfering first, picking one side or the other of Earth's Cold War, and then the Vulcans decide to counter them, with the other side. They care because 1 - Earth has lots of cannon fodder, and some resources, and 2 - they don't want the other side to win.

After a while, both sides of Earth's Cold War realize, or are told, that the other is getting alien help, too. Very carefully, using back channels through their spies, they make a secret agreement: Earth belongs to humans, not aliens. Thus, they will share bits of the aliens technology, rattle sabers, and milk both the Vulcans and Andorians for all they can get.

"Me against my brother; my brother and I against our cousins; me, my brother and our cousins against the neighbors; and all of us against a stranger."

In the end, not matter what conflicts they have on Earth, in space, humanity is united.

EDIT: My intention is that this Earth advances faster than the one in canon did. I'm not sure that needed to be said, but it occurred to me that it might.
 

rdde

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#11
That may be a very difficult story to write if you want the humans to end up as a founding member of the Federation. I would think that most victims of the war would be disgusted to learn that most of the weapons and technology came from aliens and may hate the aliens for the deaths of their children, parents, lovers, friends, country and etc. It may be too easy in the face of raw emotions for Earth to become a xenophobic expansionist once the truth is realised.
 

Prince Charon

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#12
rdde said:
That may be a very difficult story to write if you want the humans to end up as a founding member of the Federation. I would think that most victims of the war would be disgusted to learn that most of the weapons and technology came from aliens and may hate the aliens for the deaths of their children, parents, lovers, friends, country and etc. It may be too easy in the face of raw emotions for Earth to become a xenophobic expansionist once the truth is realised.
There might not be a full on war. The intention of both sides is that the Cold War stays cold, and they just keep milking the aliens for everything they can get, until the aliens stop giving them things.

Of course, there might not be a Federation, either.
 

rdde

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#13
Not to be overly negative, but I doubt both the Andorians and the Vulcans will provide technologies if no human blood was spilled at all. I don't think their leaders would be pleased to learn of the humans gaining advanced technology without a single human death related to the Andorian/Vulcan conflict.

A: "But they were threatening each other with mutually assured destruction! Loudly! And arms waving wildly!"

B: "Don't forget the spittle."

A: "Yes! And the spittle! It was flying every where!"

C: "And so you gave our agents the plans for shielding technology?"

A: "Of course. It would ensure that our side wins."

C: *facepalm*

And there were plenty of blood spilled during the Cold War, like the Vietnam war. If the hippies and other anti-war protesters learn of alien involvement then, it won't be pretty.
 

Lord Raa

Exporter of Juice Tins
#14
I agree that the Vulcans and Andorians would not just give up technology to a less advanced race without serious compensation.

For one, it does mean that these people will have, be on the way to having, the means to cause you trouble later on down the line.

Earth being annexed as part of a larger empire, however, does make more sense.

I'm not saying that it'd be like the colonisation of North America, but perhaps the idea of the aliens saying things like "How about you join us in our exploration?" would work better.

That brings up trust issues in itself, but you get the idea.
 

Flamewolf

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#15
the argardians arrive via <s>boom tube</s> bifrost to help out
 

Prince Charon

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#16
rdde said:
And there were plenty of blood spilled during the Cold War, like the Vietnam war. If the hippies and other anti-war protesters learn of alien involvement then, it won't be pretty.
Ah. I meant that there would be no WWIII in that era, not that there would be no proxy wars and other violence.
 

Lord Raa

Exporter of Juice Tins
#17
From a comment I saw on youtube:
I think the concept for ENT was flawed from the beginning. It was sold to the audience as a prequel. But it was really a sequel in all but name. If the Starfleet was an underfunded, rag-tag team of explorers constantly on the verge of being disbanded by Earth's squabbling nation states. it might have been an interesting? divergence from the norm. Instead, what we ended up with was a 22nd century Voyager.



So instead of being the best funded organisation on the planet (this is just an assumption from me), it's penny pinching, wrapped up in red tape, has different division arguing for the spoils of its missions.

The Vulcans are trying to keep Enterprise and its crew out of trouble. Perhaps even going as far using them as pawns with their struggle with the Andorians.

Any thoughts?
 

Lord Raa

Exporter of Juice Tins
#18
New random idea:

What if Janeway had been replaced by a Changeling infiltrator before Voyager's first mission?

Looking at SFDebris's reviews of Voyager and how he's pointed out certain actions, it does make sense if you go with the assumption that the "real" Janeway is out of the picture.

Would a Star Fleet captain have allowed so many people to die during the time Voyager was in the Delta Quadrant?

Such flimsy use of the Prime Directive.

It does make sense, if Changeling!Janeway takes the view that the people they encounter are worth less than the people of the Dominion (and even then, that's not taking the hierarchy into account).

Would be worth a chuckle or two in the right writer's hands, don't you think?
 

Prince Charon

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#19
^Interesting concept, that. You have a lot of other stuff I'm more interested in seeing more of, though.
 

jaredstar

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#20
this is the result of watching Futurama into the wild green yonder and voyager.

So at the end of wild green yonder the main cast (and zoidberg) are on the run from the Nimbus and they choose to enter a wormhole without any idea where it will take them.

In canon it takes them right back to earth setting off the 5th season.

In this idea it ends up sending them (and the nimbus) to the star trek universe in general and the Delta Quadrant in particular right in front of voyager circa season 2.

At the moment thats all i have (though i have these visions of Zapp trying to hit on the female cast and the entertaining things that would happen as a result)

this is of course designed to be crack
 

Leonite

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#21
Fry falls unconcious for being in a Star Trek fanboy's dream. Several times.
 

jaredstar

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#22
i always got the impression that he was more of an original series fanboy that said i agree that he would likely fangasim. of course of this idea to work you would likely have to destroy the planet express ship and the nimbus so as to not out balance the scales
 

nick012000

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#23
Leonite said:
Fry falls unconcious for being in a Star Trek fanboy's dream. Several times.
More likely he'll drop down onto his knees and scream a big, dramatic "Noooooo!"

He is on Voyager, after all. *shudders*
 

jaredstar

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#25
which is why both it and the nimbus would need to be destroyed (the nimbus a. for the fact that it is almost as fast the the pxs and is stupidly powerful (Being able to tractor all of New Manhattan) B. to get rid of the redshirts on board the nimbus

i have these visions of zapp being assimilated at some point and what it would do to the collective
 
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