Stuff that bugs you in anime.

[Contrabardus]

What the title says, stuff that bugs you when you see it in an Anime.

Doesn't necessarily need to be something that ruins a show, just things that makes you go...

...when you see it in a show.

For me it's the idea that being cold and/or wet causes colds or the flu. Neither is really a contributing factor in any way, you've got to be exposed to the virus. Being damp does nothing to contribute, and temperature cold enough to weaken the immune system and make someone more susceptible to illness is near to the point of hypothermia.

That's not how viruses work. They don't magically appear inside of people because they were out in the rain or got a little chilled. That probably is uncomfortable, but it doesn't cause colds or the flu.

It's an old wives tale and it bugs me every time I see it as a plot point in an anime.

There is evidence that rhinoviruses do last a little longer in cold temperatures, and that humidity contributes to that as well. Which is why they tend to spread during certain seasons, but they still don't become airborne or magically appear inside people because someone got wet or chilled.

Hygiene is the biggest contributing factor to the spread of viruses, you've got to come in contact with a virus to catch one. How cold or wet you are, at least on the level that is normally presented in anime, has absolutely nothing to do with it.

 

[Rising Dragon]

Stealth in space settings.

It doesn't work that way. At all. Stealth in space is effectively impossible and no amount of space magic is going to change that. And they always do some stupid method that doesn't deal with what actually gives you away, either, like the Mirage Colloid of Gundam SEED. You're still giving off heat, you can still be detected from practically anywhere in space.

It. Does. Not. Work.

 

[Hoki]

So is this a general things about tropes that bug you in anime, or can we have anime specific examples?

Well for a more generalized example, there was once a time when I liked simpleton/idiot heroes, partly because they're pretty easy to relate to when you were a kid. Nowadays, I avoid them like the plague.

I think there ISN'T, nor there CANNOT be, a hero who is so goddamn dull that it's a wonder that he/she is not dead yet by the time of the story. It makes the other characters in the story somewhat less credible. For the hero/heroine's support crew, it lessens the believable aspect of their characters in that they have to put up with the MC's idiocy despite them being the voices of reason. Most stories would've been solved quicker if the MC wasn't being a total idiot, yet the narrative makes us think that despite the MC causing the problem with his/her idiocy, the supporting member who call him/her out for it is treated as wrong and he/she should just shut up because he/she is not the MC and letting the MC suffer the consequences of his/her actions is also treated as bad.

An idiot hero also lessens the villain's credibility by the simple fact that for all the effort they have gone through planning and/or executing their nefarious plan, the plan itself is ultimately foiled and they are ultimately defeated by an idiot. Even if they didn't consider him a threat at first (itself a pet peeve of mine, but that's another story), by the time the MC starts foiling too many of their plans, the villain/s must've acted in order to eliminate this threat. Their deliberate ignorance of the guy who keeps screwing up their plans because of the MC's supposed lack of threat due to his/her limited intelligence strike me as moronic in itself. They deserve to fail if their plans are undone by a moron.

 

[He-who-voted-for-Kodos]

When there's some kind of rival character that gets hyped to hell and back, beats everyone he goes up against effortlessly, and it always winds up as "Protagonist is the only one who can defeat him!" Meanwhile, that same protagonist is fighting tooth and nail not to lose against other random scrubs that the rival would smash with no effort.

I recognize the need for some dramatic tension, but there's only so many times I can stomach seeing, for example, Kaiba smash his way through everyone while Yugi struggles against the likes of Weevil and Mako before I just get sick of it.

 

[seitora]

This is more of fiction in general than just anime, but anything that presents lucid dreaming as 'You can take control of the dream and do whatever you want!'

No. That's not how real world lucid dreaming fucking works.

 

[goldenarms]

When there's some kind of rival character that gets hyped to hell and back, beats everyone he goes up against effortlessly, and it always winds up as "Protagonist is the only one who can defeat him!" Meanwhile, that same protagonist is fighting tooth and nail not to lose against other random scrubs that the rival would smash with no effort.

I recognize the need for some dramatic tension, but there's only so many times I can stomach seeing, for example, Kaiba smash his way through everyone while Yugi struggles against the likes of Weevil and Mako before I just get sick of it.

In the case of Yu-Gi-Oh!, there is some sense of logic behind Yugi's squeaking out wins (in dramatic fashion) over guys Kaiba would just mow down, in that their decks are dramatically different. Kaiba ran the best his money could buy to crush his opponents with brute strength, while Yugi's works more on synergy between lesser cards to create more powerful effects (and topdecking... so much topdecking). What Yugi's decks lack in raw power, he makes up for in cunning, skill, and wisdom, which is his real strength. So, I can let that slide on the principle of deckbuilding and card scarcity.

Now, if it were, say, bridge tournaments, then, no, that's some BS. Level playing field, and the MC is only constantly winning by the skin of his teeth? No, seriously, there should be some squash battles involved to give us the sense of the MC having the strength to beat a curb-stomping opponent.

 

[chronodekar]

This is more of fiction in general than just anime, but anything that presents lucid dreaming as 'You can take control of the dream and do whatever you want!'

No. That's not how real world lucid dreaming fucking works.

Wait, it isn't? :blink: I'm not a lucid dreamer myself, but I understand that it means the dreamer is aware that they are in a dream - doesn't that give them some kind of leeway?

-chronodekar

 

[Ranma Uzumaki]

This is more of fiction in general than just anime, but anything that presents lucid dreaming as 'You can take control of the dream and do whatever you want!'

No. That's not how real world lucid dreaming fucking works.

Wait, it isn't?  :blink:   I'm not a lucid dreamer myself, but I understand that it means the dreamer is aware that they are in a dream - doesn't that give them some kind of leeway?

-chronodekar

I would think so I mean that why I think Freddy Krueger is a stupid villain once you know your in a dream go Super Saiyan or summon a Super Robot and curp stomp his ass.

 

[da_fox2279]

This is more of fiction in general than just anime, but anything that presents lucid dreaming as 'You can take control of the dream and do whatever you want!'

No. That's not how real world lucid dreaming fucking works.

Wait, it isn't?  :blink:   I'm not a lucid dreamer myself, but I understand that it means the dreamer is aware that they are in a dream - doesn't that give them some kind of leeway?

-chronodekar

I would think so I mean that why I think Freddy Krueger is a stupid villain once you know your in a dream go Super Saiyan or summon a Super Robot and curp stomp his ass.

Yeah, they tried that in Nightmare 4, and Freddy took a Vegeta-level beating, before coming back like Goku facing off against Freiza.

 

[Rising Dragon]

Well there's always forcing the rules of Balefire to apply to him.

 

[Contrabardus]

This is more of fiction in general than just anime, but anything that presents lucid dreaming as 'You can take control of the dream and do whatever you want!'

No. That's not how real world lucid dreaming fucking works.

Wait, it isn't?  :blink:   I'm not a lucid dreamer myself, but I understand that it means the dreamer is aware that they are in a dream - doesn't that give them some kind of leeway?

-chronodekar

I would think so I mean that why I think Freddy Krueger is a stupid villain once you know your in a dream go Super Saiyan or summon a Super Robot and curp stomp his ass.

Yeah, they tried that in Nightmare 4, and Freddy took a Vegeta-level beating, before coming back like Goku facing off against Freiza.

This. Freddy doesn't go into your dream, he pulls you into his. He's the one who makes the rules. This is something they touch on throughout the movies, though I don't recall it ever being explicitly laid out. It's hinted at heavily at least and there is often a point where you can notice when someone goes from their own dream and into his world. Sometimes it blends together seamlessly so the audience isn't sure when it happened, but other times there's a visual cue somewhere for people who are paying attention to notice that someone isn't in their own dream anymore.

 

[burnerx7]

When characters get a free card to manipulate you so they can "help you". The author give the characters the excuse of high moral ground and the love they have for the protagonist so any lie, manipulation or forced action is justified while the protagonist gets better or ends happy.

It gets to me every time, more common in anime than in any other form of action

 

[da_fox2279]

This is more of fiction in general than just anime, but anything that presents lucid dreaming as 'You can take control of the dream and do whatever you want!'

No. That's not how real world lucid dreaming fucking works.

Wait, it isn't?  :blink:   I'm not a lucid dreamer myself, but I understand that it means the dreamer is aware that they are in a dream - doesn't that give them some kind of leeway?

-chronodekar

I would think so I mean that why I think Freddy Krueger is a stupid villain once you know your in a dream go Super Saiyan or summon a Super Robot and curp stomp his ass.

Yeah, they tried that in Nightmare 4, and Freddy took a Vegeta-level beating, before coming back like Goku facing off against Freiza.

This. Freddy doesn't go into your dream, he pulls you into his. He's the one who makes the rules. This is something they touch on throughout the movies, though I don't recall it ever being explicitly laid out. It's hinted at heavily at least and there is often a point where you can notice when someone goes from their own dream and into his world. Sometimes it blends together seamlessly so the audience isn't sure when it happened, but other times there's a visual cue somewhere for people who are paying attention to notice that someone isn't in their own dream anymore.

You know, that never occurred to me. I always assumed that Freddy simply took over the victim's dream, overwhelming them with his evil. It's an interesting thought, Fredd taking them into his dream.